PortaJohn

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Dropping like a rock…….

Pfizer taking over or something else?

My money is on future lawsuits, even though they are devoid of any responsibility.

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UKDslayer said:
But free will with respect to jabs inherently depends on the informed consent principle being allowed to weigh true risks vs. true benefits. In this case, without being informed of the true benefit (since COVID stats skewed) and true risks (since jab side effects esp. mortality skewed) there wasn't free will in then informed consent sense. ASGH though, because power is power.
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I can agree with this statement for the original vaccine recipients as they had no data. However, as time has gone on the information has been available should one decide to do their own research.

This whole thing reminds me of a feral puppy that jumps out in the road at the last second in front of a car. The pup is killed. The puppy didn't know any better but is still killed. I feel like that is the state of the initial vaccine patients who made their decisions based on trust and fear. Going forward, however, information has been coming out for some time and it becomes a situation where one decides based on the available information (either to take it or not) OR actively chooses to not look at what is readily available and make a decision with incomplete data. Either way doesn't change who is ultimately responsible for the decision to take the vaccine - it is the patient. The personal details of the follow-on consequences in their personal lives may be severe but they don't change who is responsible for the decision and who fully owns those consequences, whether good or bad.

People seem to be forgetting (or don't know) how medical procedures work - the patient can always decline and the caregiver must always get permission (or assumed permission for certain things if unconscious). It's your body, you make the decision. When you are advised of a procedure you are allowed to ask questions and be fully informed. This is no different. If a person decides to not be fully informed and are harmed by the vaccine it is on them, the information was available. If a person IS fully informed and makes either decision, then they are also responsible. This is where we are, and I bet you that someone somewhere will make this argument about patient consent and available information to avoid lawsuits thus completely fucking over the person who was stuck between a rock and a hard place. This is the real injustice of it all - it appears no one who is pushing this vaccine or the lockdowns really care about the absolute misery they are causing.
 
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UKDslayer said:
True. Statute of limitations. Why Durham stalled.
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That is not true, big investigations take time.
From Wikipedia:
By April 2019, U.S. Attorney General William Barr had tasked Durham with overseeing a review of the origins of the Russia investigation and to determine if intelligence collection involving the Trump campaign was "lawful and appropriate".[7][8] Barr disclosed in December 2020 that he had elevated Durham's status to special counsel in October, ensuring that his investigation could continue after the Trump administration ended.[9][10]
 
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lariat said:
People seem to be forgetting (or don't know) how medical procedures work - the patient can always decline and the caregiver must always get permission (or assumed permission for certain things if unconscious).
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All procedures of conscious individuals involves signing a piece of paper of consent. Risks in such documents is usually worded "common, rare, very uncommon, very rare," etc. I honestly don't know what people signed to be jabbed, having the rarest legitimate medical exemption, but if it didn't reveal what the vax manufacturers clearly knew when they received it, it can't be valid consent.I know pharmaceutical companies were released of liability due to "Warp Speed", but is that still valid if they withheld relevant information? I haven't seen the liability release, but knowing pharmaceutical lawyers, I'm expecting it was broad and difficult to legally challenge. The CDC/WH medical advisors should be held to the highest standard. Doctors and pharmacists were threatened with licensure restrictions if informing their patients of even suspicious effects. I think their liability release as well has long expired. Should patients have been suspect of their doctors and pharmacists? If so, at what point? I think ob-gyns and ER docs probably had the first clue. I can't imagine being an ob, telling 100 pregnant patients the jab is probably safe, and see 40 miscarriages in short order. How many miscarriages do they need to see before telling patients not to be jabbed? ER docs seeing strokes and MI's in very healthy young people immediately post-jab? How long can they be in denial? People here are more informed misinformation/disinformation...
I personally believe Nuremberg II should happen, with journalists being high up on the trial list, as well as physician and pharmacists, but that the final resolution of the freedom convoys will give us the first insight as to whether that will ever happen. How they are doubling down over and over is indication of how all "modern" societies will respond. Force over common sense.
 
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c1steve said:
That is not true, big investigations take time.
From Wikipedia:
By April 2019, U.S. Attorney General William Barr had tasked Durham with overseeing a review of the origins of the Russia investigation and to determine if intelligence collection involving the Trump campaign was "lawful and appropriate".[7][8] Barr disclosed in December 2020 that he had elevated Durham's status to special counsel in October, ensuring that his investigation could continue after the Trump administration ended.[9][10]
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What you posted doesn't matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations
They have five years to initiate. They can investigate for as long as they want. If they can not bring charges before five years of the crime they are SOL.
 
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ubettcha said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

BREAKING: Durham Probe Accelerates - More People Cooperating and Coming Before Grand Jury -- Bill Priestap, James Baker and Dirty Marc Elias Mentioned | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

A new court filing from Special Counsel John Durham from this past weekend revealed Perkins Coie allies connected to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign spied on Trump’s internet traffic – WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT.
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There will be 2 or 3 lawyers you’ve never heard of indicted…… asgh
 
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theLBC said:
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The Surveillance and Political Spying Operations Highlighted by John Durham are the Tip of the Iceberg - The Last Refuge

Against the latest court filings by John Durham, highlighting the tip of the political surveillance iceberg, I have been asked to re-post the deep dive into the totality of the scale of the iceberg. I will add some of the latest information into the outline to show how it all connects. Barack...
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Only one of these three comes close to what really took place. In two of them they are pointing fingers at Hillary and her clan if miscreants.
The other is skirting the edge of what really took place.
So here's the question or questions that need to be answered before looking for the squirrel they are pointing to.
WHO? Is it really that easy to hack into the white house servers? Shouldn't they be some of the most protected? Especially after the Clinton computer file fiasco? So WHO let that happen? Better yet. WHO assisted in the hack? FBI, CIA, DHS, DOJ, Secret Service?
Contemplate those questions and ask yourself how corrupted is the government?
This is both sides of the isle, each and every alphabet agency and all three branches.
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Only one of these three comes close to what really took place. In two of them they are pointing fingers at Hillary and her clan if miscreants.
The other is skirting the edge of what really took place.
So here's the question or questions that need to be answered before looking for the squirrel they are pointing to.
WHO? Is it really that easy to hack into the white house servers? Shouldn't they be some of the most protected? Especially after the Clinton computer file fiasco? So WHO let that happen? Better yet. WHO assisted in the hack? FBI, CIA, DHS, DOJ, Secret Service?
Contemplate those questions and ask yourself how corrupted is the government?
This is both sides of the isle, each and every alphabet agency and all three branches.
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tucker covered it fairly well.
joffe was already contracted to work there, and (i think) he got others on the team from Ga Tech with existing clearance to assist him.

 
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"exploiting dns" is not the same thing as breaking in, so i am not sure what they actually did.
maybe they just collected the urls that were requested by certain ip address ranges.
 
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Again. WHO allowed it/assisted it? All of the alphabet assigned the security of the country and not a fucking sole had a clue?
theLBC said:
"exploiting dns" is not the same thing as breaking in, so i am not sure what they actually did.
maybe they just collected the urls that were requested by certain ip address ranges.
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Not buying it..
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Again. WHO allowed it/assisted it? All of the alphabet assigned the security of the country and not a fucking sole had a clue?

Not buying it..
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I am going to bet this is similar to when we would do a PIN register during my time in law enforcement. On several occasions we had to contact the provider to tell them to stop sending is the content of the SMS messages from the phone. We were able to read all of their texts. All of that kind of stuff can be exploited.
 
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Joffe had no access to the WH computers/servers. Someone had to give him that I would assume it was during the transition phase. Joffe received an award from the FBI. Makes Comey McCabe or the rat-faced glasses wearing shithead Rosenstein the first option. The only thing that bothers me is SS should have seen this or did and allowed it.
 
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"He's Going to Deliver. He's Unraveling BIGGEST Political Scandal in US History" - KASH PATEL DROPS BOMBS - Durham Grand Jury Interviewed 24 People So Far (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Kash Patel, the former chief of staff to the Acting United States Secretary of Defense, joined Greg Kelly on Monday night to discuss the explosive revelations released this past weekend that the Hillary camp and Democrats were spying on Donald Trump’s campaign and later the Trump White House.
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ubettcha said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

"He's Going to Deliver. He's Unraveling BIGGEST Political Scandal in US History" - KASH PATEL DROPS BOMBS - Durham Grand Jury Interviewed 24 People So Far (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Kash Patel, the former chief of staff to the Acting United States Secretary of Defense, joined Greg Kelly on Monday night to discuss the explosive revelations released this past weekend that the Hillary camp and Democrats were spying on Donald Trump’s campaign and later the Trump White House.
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that explains it. they did have "inside" help to gain access.
 
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theLBC said:
that explains it. they did have "inside" help to gain access.
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They have been spying on Trump since 2014. This will take out alot of the DEM field in the 2024 run. It will also crush the DNC. ONe thing that is also out there is Assange. None of the emails leaked about the DNC, Podesta or HRC were dated after Seth RIch's death. Debbie Wash her face Shultz's brother just happen to be the US Atorney in charge of that murder investigation. Seems it got buried with an excavator rather quickly
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Finally someone is heading in the right direction.

Seems like there should be more putting two and two together. Or they know what happened to Seth
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i don't see how they couldn't know.
they claimed they didn't have a single document, and then all of a sudden they admitted to having his laptop.
 
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The story I believe is true was from a DEA agent that was arrested. He claimed to have hired 2 MS13 members both in their teens. Both of these gang bangers were found shot dead in a park not too far away. He claimed that they were not supposed to kill him, but when they did he killed them when he met them after the robbery/murder.
The thing about this though if Podesta's email was downloaded many of the creepy shit most likely is there and that would mean that Assange might have all of that as well. Could be a sweet way to Segue into another scandal
 
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ubettcha said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

"He's Going to Deliver. He's Unraveling BIGGEST Political Scandal in US History" - KASH PATEL DROPS BOMBS - Durham Grand Jury Interviewed 24 People So Far (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Kash Patel, the former chief of staff to the Acting United States Secretary of Defense, joined Greg Kelly on Monday night to discuss the explosive revelations released this past weekend that the Hillary camp and Democrats were spying on Donald Trump’s campaign and later the Trump White House.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com
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I'm afraid Mrs Bill Clinton will claim plausible deniability and all those who are indicted will fall on their swords for her. I hope I'm wrong, but you know hard it is to get something to stick to a Clinton.
 
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