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I read an article once that said in order to power New York City alone , you would have to bulldoze the entire state of Pennsylvania and then cover every square inch of it with solar panels and windmills , and it still wouldn't cover their peak demand.


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Just interesting that I could open it after your first post. If you u spent less time being an asshole on this board you might be more capable in life.
Aww sweetheart, are you trying to antagonize your better half again ?
Just think back to the last time you complained about the black eye and how much trouble it was for you to cover it up with Maybelline .
 
Aww sweetheart, are you trying to antagonize your better half again ?
Just think back to the last time you complained about the black eye and how much trouble it was for you to cover it up with Maybelline .

That has got to be one of the lamest responses I've ever read. You need a bunch of practice. Come back in a few years when you've practiced on the knitting.com forum.
 
I read an article once that said in order to power New York City alone , you would have to bulldoze the entire state of Pennsylvania and then cover every square inch of it with solar panels and windmills , and it still wouldn't cover their peak demand.

I would not doubt this.
This is what people don't understand:
Its not a simple math equation.
Their thinking goes like this:
"My little city uses 2 megawatts, when everything is running.
We need to generate 2 megawatts. Its simple."
WRONG!
You probably need 4 megs, 3.5 might get it done, but you don't want a brown out now do you?

Most folks have not the slightest clue how power is generated.
"The power is down, let's crank up the hydro at the river."
All the power is out?
"Yes."
So you have no electricity at the hydro plant?
"Well sure we do, as soon as you crank them back up."
No...it doesn't work like that. The batteries are fine though? The DC system is working?
"WTF? Battery? Just turn the turbo water thingy back on, and it'll be fine."

This is the level of intelligence that thinks we can run on windmills and Chinese solar panels.
 
No clue, is it? Just know it exists
Nope.
The hippies got this grand idea from watching third world villagers, fill a tractor innertube with shit, and cooking supper a week later with the gas.
Sewer gas is incredibly filthy. Unrefined, it will destroy everything it touches.
Its a fantastic 8th grade science project. Other than that, the concept is fucking dangerous, and very maintenance intensive and requires lots of extra equipment....that requires maintenance.
I've operated numerous anaerobic digesters.
I'd rather feed a grizzly bear twice a day, than be within a mile of one of those fucking things.
 
Nope.
The hippies got this grand idea from watching third world villagers, fill a tractor innertube with shit, and cooking supper a week later with the gas.
Sewer gas is incredibly filthy. Unrefined, it will destroy everything it touches.
Its a fantastic 8th grade science project. Other than that, the concept is fucking dangerous, and very maintenance intensive and requires lots of extra equipment....that requires maintenance.
I've operated numerous anaerobic digesters.
I'd rather feed a grizzly bear twice a day, than be within a mile of one of those fucking things.
He just said they should, and I said they did. Not it's a great idea to power the country lol
 
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He just said they should, and I said they did. Not it's a great idea to power the country
I know, I just wanted to get out ahead of the wheel reinventors.
The real story, is none of these greennics want any power generation near them...or in their river, or in their town, or God forbid in their back yard.
Why do they put the windmills in the middle of no where? "Cause that's where the wind is."
No cause they don't wanna hear that fucker whine all night or smell the wafting odor of shit on the night air, or etc...etc.

Maybe I'll get time to tell you about the landfill gas debacle I was involved with once upon a time.

Oh...was gonna say.
Its actually a fantastic idea to power the country. Sadly, its an idea that just doesn't work within a reasonable economy. Not economically feasable.
 
Look at the bright side.

The green deal pipe-dreams would have eventually ran into reality like a skidding car gets greeted by a bridge abutment. Now, with a global energy crisis and soon a global food crisis we get the reality check earlier and it is going to be less painful in the long run.

Yes, there will be pain here in the US but it will be far less than what for example Germany is having to face after going cold turkey on nuclear and coal and now being dependent on natural gas from Russia, the same bear NATO finds prudent to poke.

Oil at 150 a barrel will also make fracking more than profitable and if Biden & co try to impede the next boom that gets us back to sane energy prices and independence, they are going to have some very angry poors to deal with. Those people voted for an easy life and not the green dogma.

The bad news is that they will try to appease the moronic masses by printing money and handing out energy stimulus checks like Newsom proposed. It is our job to stand in the way of this by making it very clear to every representative what the cost of them supporting this lunacy would be.

Drill baby, drill and dig baby, dig to keep the lights on. Invest in next generation nukes and fusion. Augment with privately owned, distributed solar, if you want. Those are the only realistic options forward. Every other "green" redistribution scheme needs to be shut down.
 
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Aww sweetheart, are you trying to antagonize your better half again ?
Just think back to the last time you complained about the black eye and how much trouble it was for you to cover it up with Maybelline .
I wish a bitch like you would even try. I am not really worried though because you cannot even figure out how to open a file.
 
~30% efficiency. Meaning they only generate power 30% of the time. Nuke plants are like 95 - 99% efficient, but often not cost effective to run. They are definitely not cost efficient to run when they only have one reactor. We almost shut down 2 of our 6 plants here in IL in 2021.
Take this nuke efficiency, add in the waste issue and meltdown risk. Now, go research how many of those we have placed near fault lines in the US. We are truly stupid.

Now in Japan, Fukushima is the gift that keeps on giving.
 
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I would not doubt this.
This is what people don't understand:
Its not a simple math equation.
Their thinking goes like this:
"My little city uses 2 megawatts, when everything is running.
We need to generate 2 megawatts. Its simple."
WRONG!
You probably need 4 megs, 3.5 might get it done, but you don't want a brown out now do you?

Most folks have not the slightest clue how power is generated.
"The power is down, let's crank up the hydro at the river."
All the power is out?
"Yes."
So you have no electricity at the hydro plant?
"Well sure we do, as soon as you crank them back up."
No...it doesn't work like that. The batteries are fine though? The DC system is working?
"WTF? Battery? Just turn the turbo water thingy back on, and it'll be fine."

This is the level of intelligence that thinks we can run on windmills and Chinese solar panels.
There is a ton of truth in this. I was a PM for a SCADA upgrade and critical infrastructure protection project for 8 states simultaneously. One of my team was adamant that we test all generation sites that one of the control room had under its control. She swore it must be done that day, but the control room manager looked at her and said “I can’t call God and make the wind blow”. That’s when it became very clear to her just what the problem was and how big of a farce the windmills are.
 
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Take this nuke efficiency, add in the waste issue and meltdown risk. Now, go research how many of those we have placed near fault lines in the US. We are truly stupid.

Now in Japan, Fukushima is the gift that keeps on giving.
Your points are valid but there are plenty of countries that use nuclear and have not had the issues you pointed out. For some reason the US did a half assed job of setting up a nuclear power infrastructure.
 
huh?

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They were being generous.
They only have to put 10% of their monies to the actual cause.
like all the money that goes to Ukraine and other places, the money goes to "programs" and those programs also have "expenses" and "staff".
in the end, everyone has their hands on our taxes except the people that need it.