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I did, in fact. If you are actually honest with your kids, you'll know what's going on in their heads (because they'll actually talk to you). And if they're so broken, that they exercise the option, are you naive enough to believe that you actually could have done something, anyway?

Have you ever known anyone with a medically diagnosed depression? If you did, just curious to know how effective was talking to them?

The things I thought mattered when I was a kid, at 25 years old I realized were all bullshit.

....but go ahead let a 16 year old make those decisions.
 
This administration is already one of the worst in US history. I did see Gen. Jack Keene on TV (Levin) last night and he said the China policy so far mimics Trump's; but that unless biden admin puts $$ into weapons (defensive and offensive) that we're pretty much screwed. He was even more dire about Iran and the handling there - pretty much guaranteeing a nuke in 10 years. He correctly stated two things about how to prevent a war (I'll paraphrase): 1) enough military might to deter/make other side think twice, 2) enough resolve to follow through on something once the line has been crossed (of course, we saw that line with obama).
 
The things I thought mattered when I was a kid, at 25 years old I realized were all bullshit.

....but go ahead let a 16 year old make those decisions.
I'm not suggesting that anyone enable the gender confusion. I've said as much. But on the suicide point, we would be much better served as a society, not trying to save those who don't want to be saved. There's plenty of people screaming out for help, that they don't get. Why should we be arsed to bother with those who don't care about their own survival?

There are exactly 2 things that any successful organisms concern themselves with - 1) self-preservation, 2) propagation of the species. If those 2 things aren't in place, why would we want to push that fault down through the generations?

Your life has to mean more to you, than it means to me.
 
I'm not suggesting that anyone enable the gender confusion. I've said as much. But on the suicide point, we would be much better served as a society, not trying to save those who don't want to be saved. There's plenty of people screaming out for help, that they don't get. Why should we be arsed to bother with those who don't care about their own survival?

There are exactly 2 things that any successful organisms concern themselves with - 1) self-preservation, 2) propagation of the species. If those 2 things aren't in place, why would we want to push that fault down through the generations?

Your life has to mean more to you, than it means to me.


Because we like to think that life has value rather than people are disposable.

If you feel this way why are you guys always after our guns.....instead of using suicide as a reason to take guns you should be promoting guns.

Along your line of thinking.....why are you guys always promoting "treatment" for drug addiction......shouldnt you allow users to experience their outcomes?

"Your life has to mean more to you but your vote really matters to me so we are going to keep you barely living, depressed and available to check the box......."
 



But at least NO MEAN TWEEEETSS!!!


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Because we like to think that life has value rather than people are disposable.

If you feel this way why are you guys always after our guns.....instead of using suicide as a reason to take guns you should be promoting guns.
What the fuck are you talking about??? When did I ever say that I was "after your guns"? The only way that I'm after your guns, is when I get a good deal on something that I'm after!

I think that everyone should be mandated to have a gun, and be prepared to use it, in the defense of their homeland. And if you want to fucking kill yourself with it, that's fine, too. (no, I wouldn't count a suicide in the statistics of gun deaths)

I stand on my previous statement. I don't believe in saving everyone. Especially when one doesn't want to be saved. I respect your right to make your own choices about yourself, but the idea of saving everyone, at any cost - in my opinion - displays a deep lack of empathy, and certainly understanding, about people, in general.
 
Memes that make you go GRRRR. :mad:

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I was having this exact same question with my wife lastnight.

I am not heartless (and most people critiquing border policies aren't either, we just want a process that is fair to the tax payer and those seeking freedom), and I do feel and empathize with those looking for a better life as they cross South/Central america by foot to get to the U.S.

HOWEVER COMMA I would love to see legislation put in place that we restrict all foreign aid and/or asylum/immigration based aid until certain metrics were met to address our veteran homelessness, mental health, and/or employment.

It isn't nationalistic and/or xenophobic to take care of our own population first and then give what we can with whats left over.
 
Along your line of thinking.....why are you guys always promoting "treatment" for drug addiction......shouldnt you allow users to experience their outcomes?

"Your life has to mean more to you but your vote really matters to me so we are going to keep you barely living, depressed and available to check the box......."
Who are you even talking to? Show me where I've said these things...

I keep hearing people talk about "critical thinking" in here, but I don't see any of that.
 
I'm supposed to be interviewed by Military.com this week.

I cant wait for that to happen.

Doc
That should be interesting!!! We'll be glad to know the questions they ask you. Don't go off on them too much; then it won't get printed, but subtly work your ideals into the conversation ( as if you didn't know this already :). )
 
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This is what's happening with all the "hate crimes" against Asians. It's black people attacking them. It just happened in St. Paul. A black woman drove around threatening to kill local Hmong, the news would not report her identity. Instead they just ramp up the hate crime fear and try to imply it's white on minority crime. Same old story...
My money is on the Asians. Eventually this will sort itself out.
 
I was having this exact same question with my wife lastnight.

I am not heartless (and most people critiquing border policies aren't either, we just want a process that is fair to the tax payer and those seeking freedom), and I do feel and empathize with those looking for a better life as they cross South/Central america by foot to get to the U.S.

HOWEVER COMMA I would love to see legislation put in place that we restrict all foreign aid and/or asylum/immigration based aid until certain metrics were met to address our veteran homelessness, mental health, and/or employment.

It isn't nationalistic and/or xenophobic to take care of our own population first and then give what we can with whats left over.


Can you imagine how well we could care for seniors if we weren't dumping money to gain votes?
 
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My money is on the Asians. Eventually this will sort itself out.


How shitty does your scope have to be that you remove it before using your rifle?
 
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You don't need to specifically say them.....we just know.
nah, you got it wrong. We need a strong 2nd amendment, so that one day, we can fend off the kind of dangerous stupidity that allows you to even think that kind of thought, without batting an eye. If ever there was an enemy of liberty, it's the ones who think that "ya jest know" beats actual thinking.

Let me guess... this is your unassailable "common sense" at work, right?
 
I'm supposed to be interviewed by Military.com this week.

I cant wait for that to happen.

Doc
I read that article this morning as well, apparently the author and ”CZ” don’t understand how ANTIFA, BLM and the people that stormed the embassy can viewed as the same just with different desired outcomes and strategy‘s. Pretty biased article if you ask me.
 
I read that article this morning as well, apparently the author and ”CZ” don’t understand how ANTIFA, BLM and the people that stormed the embassy can viewed as the same just with different desired outcomes and strategy’. Pretty biased article if you ask me.
I feel the exact same way. I will be trying to get that point across without coming across too harsh. These people need to understand what happened at the Capitol was no where even close to an insurrection. However what BLM/Antifa have been doing is true terrorism and trying to upend the constitution and overthrow local governments.

Doc
 
I feel the exact same way. I will be trying to get that point across without coming across too harsh. These people need to understand what happened at the Capitol was no where even close to an insurrection. However what BLM/Antifa have been doing is true terrorism and trying to upend the constitution and overthrow local governments.

Doc


Stand your ground.

They are telling people how to think pure and simple.
 
I feel the exact same way. I will be trying to get that point across without coming across too harsh. These people need to understand what happened at the Capitol was no where even close to an insurrection. However what BLM/Antifa have been doing is true terrorism and trying to upend the constitution and overthrow local governments.

Doc
Not that you care, but I would put it thusly: The foundation of the American government is that the government exists in order to provide an atmosphere in which people are free to pursue their lives, liberties and happiness. Because of that, the assault on "just a liquor store" or "just a taco shop" or whatever strikes directly at the purpose of this nation, its entire reason for being. So just as the assault on the capitol was an assault on the fundamental mechanism of our government, peaceful, democratic transition, the assault on the cities was an assault on the fundamental reasons for it even being there.
 
This was my exact thought when I heard that 87M was going to spend on hotels for immigrants....I need Zofran now..

While I know enough about Big Gov Spending to say my example below will be an over simplification of this issue, i'll still go for it cuz fuck it:

1.) Instantaneously decide to spend 87 million, roughly $375 per night, on U.S. based hotel rooms for a few thousand migrants? GOOD TO GO!!

2.) Take 6 months, then additional 6 months, to roll out "covid relief" to the U.S. Population in form of $2,000 per person due to the government's self-inflicted gunshot wound to its own economy?? #brinkmanship

I sense asymmetry in our priorities.
 
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While I know enough about Big Gov Spending to say my example below will be an over simplification of this issue, i'll still go for it cuz fucking it:

1.) Instantaneously decide to spend 87 million, roughly $375 per night, on U.S. based hotel rooms for a few thousand migrants? GOOD TO GO!!

2.) Take 6 months, then additional 6 months, to roll out "covid relief" to the U.S. Population in form of $2,000 per person due to the government's self-inflicted gunshot wound to its own economy?? #brinkmanship

I sense asymmetry in our priorities.
It's much bigger than that Chrome. Asymmetry in priorities....for sure. Look no further than the House of so-called Representatives.

Impeaching a president TWICE just because you don't like him. Has nothing to do with crimes and nothing to do with not honoring his Oath to The Constitution of the United STATES of America (people often forget a State is...well...a state, it's not a nation-state, thereby we are United).

However, we now have a POTUS and VPOTUS that are in DIRECT violation of federal law and their Oath to COTUS by allowing and inviting people to INVADE our borders; giving people asylum without even knowing from what it is they are seeking asylum. THAT is an impeachable offense. But, our queen obviously will not allow any of her rooks to step out of place and bring this (if we had any republicants with guts) to the floor.
 
I did, in fact. If you are actually honest with your kids, you'll know what's going on in their heads (because they'll actually talk to you). And if they're so broken, that they exercise the option, are you naive enough to believe that you actually could have done something, anyway?

Have you ever known anyone with a medically diagnosed depression? If you did, just curious to know how effective was talking to them?
There seems to be a lot of "give up" in this one and has no problem passing that on to his children also.

Take it from someone who actually WAS depressed, and had to work hard for years to get myself out of the hole I was in, and still growing from that experience. I'm so happy I didn't have a piece of shit father like you to enable the easy way out.
 
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I feel the exact same way. I will be trying to get that point across without coming across too harsh. These people need to understand what happened at the Capitol was no where even close to an insurrection. However what BLM/Antifa have been doing is true terrorism and trying to upend the constitution and overthrow local governments.

Doc

You could suggest to the reporters that they tour Lake Street in Minneapolis. See what hundreds of millions of dollars, lost lives and livelihoods looks like because the destruction is horrible and honestly it looks like a city rebuilding after being bombed. Let those reporters see first hand what the blm/antifa savages do.

Or better yet, they could interview the Hmong NG infantry soldiers who had their businesses destroyed by the savages in St. Paul during the same riots. Here's the story - The NG was getting ready to deploy to Africa on an anti terrorism mission right when the riots broke out. One of the MPD officers at the scene when the junkie George Floyd died from a drug overdose was Hmong. So the terrorists from BLM/antifa specifically targeted and destroyed Hmong owned businesses...they burned them to the ground in a mass terrorist/hate crime attack. Well some of those troops (that apparently need brainwashing) had their family businesses destroyed and were forced to leave their families behind and spend a year in Africa, in fact they are still not home.

Imagine what is going on in their heads right now. I can't begin to comprehend the anger they must feel after being the victims of these savages in a racist attack that destroyed their families' lives, then having to leave their family and deploy, then being told by the army that they have to view the savages as morally correct. Holy wow, those guys are going to come home in a couple months and try to put their lives back together.

If military.com really wants to do their fucking job and be a legit source of journalism...interview those Hmong soldiers. Talk to the real victims of racism and terrorism because those Hmong soldiers and their families are.
 
If military.com really wants to do their fucking job and be a legit source of journalism...interview those Hmong soldiers. Talk to the real victims of racism and terrorism because those Hmong soldiers and their families are.


how I view 99.9% of the journalism "profession" right now:

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There seems to be a lot of "give up" in this one and has no problem passing that on to his children also.

Take it from someone who actually WAS depressed, and had to work hard for years to get myself out of the hole I was in, and still growing from that experience. I'm so happy I didn't have a piece of shit father like you to enable the easy way out.
Without feeling it necessary to explain myself to you... I've got more exposure to the subject than most people. Say what you like from your own limited experience - but depression is a condition that worsens with age, and traumatic life experience. It can't be cured. It can be "maintained", so long as the person suffering, is willing to adhere to a drug regiment. I've know my fair share of people suffering from depression - none of whom are my own children - running the gamut from simple dysfunctional, all the way up to murder/suicide. The majority of them were more afraid of reaching out for help, for fear of being involuntarily committed (or committed again), than they were of actually dying. Not a single one of them ever got better.

If you WERE depressed, but now your life is a bed of roses, then you don't have a FUCKING CLUE what depression REALLY is. If you feel great, because that's the response that the meds give you, then you absolutely do.

What you think of me as a parent doesn't concern me a bit, because you wouldn't be able to pick me or my kids out of a crowd. Unless the dead giveaway was me separating myself from your presence, when you began to speak your bullshit.
 
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I'm getting out of the army due to medical reasons which any of you know already, however it is very disheartening to see the sheep just move along and go with the agenda. No one thinks on their own anymore.

As to the article many soldiers are truly confused due to the MSM and their billshit.

One group is labeled good amd one is labeled bad, but it's the complete opposite.

75 million americans had their vote suppressed due to states changing their own rules to accompany the liberals. That's not how an election is supposed to go. That's why 6 JAN 2021 happened.

The only one killed was an unarmed veteran. There were zero weapons confiscated per the FBI.

Cam we say that about the other group that has been destroying this country for the past 10 months now.....

Doc
 
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Finally --the dolts in the government are releasing UFO data.

God Damn it.. I will finally be vindicated!!!

Watch the video with Maria --it's hilarious. She's fucking flabbergasted!!!



 
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I see Amtrak got a ton of money from this last StimMoney package.

Let me tell you what happened the last time Amtrak got this kind of money. They said their package had shovel ready programs. Truth be told, they didn't. It takes more than a year (condition of money distribution from the Feds) just to get supplies ordered and delivered. So, they ordered enough supplies for 3 years of projects around the NE Corridor. They still had millions left over. So their answer was to pave some of the access roads that for decades were ballast roads (the stone used in the roadbed for the tracks to sit on).

One slight problem. They paved 1.5 miles of property that wasn't owned by Amtrak in New Jersey. I heard this happened in a few other locations too. But hey, they had to spend OUR money or they had to give it back to the Feds.
 
Without feeling it necessary to explain myself to you... I've got more exposure to the subject than most people. Say what you like from your own limited experience - but depression is a condition that worsens with age, and traumatic life experience. It can't be cured. It can be "maintained", so long as the person suffering, is willing to adhere to a drug regiment. I've know my fair share of people suffering from depression - none of whom are my own children - running the gamut from simple dysfunctional, all the way up to murder/suicide. The majority of them were more afraid of reaching out for help, for fear of being involuntarily committed (or committed again), than they were of actually dying. Not a single one of them ever got better.

If you WERE depressed, but now your life is a bed of roses, then you don't have a FUCKING CLUE what depression REALLY is. If you feel great, because that's the response that the meds give you, then you absolutely do.

What you think of me as a parent doesn't concern me a bit, because you wouldn't be able to pick me or my kids out of a crowd. Unless the dead giveaway was me separating myself from your presence, when you began to speak your bullshit.
Your attempts at trying to convince us how much you know shows how little you really do.

You have no business speaking on things you really know nothing about..

Like severe depression, age, and ptsd, or as you put it traumatic life experience.

Your not even a minnow or little just hatched fry in this pond. Especially if you want to start talking about ptsd, depression, etc.

Your implications suggest you think only shrinks and pills can cure depression and that your kids are immune from depression simply because they have you as a dad?

I will pray for you and your kids.
 
Your implications suggest you think only shrinks and pills can cure depression and that your kids are immune from depression simply because they have you as a dad?

I will pray for you and your kids.
Thanks, bro. While you're praying, can I get a barrel of single malt, too?

If you think that's what I implied, you sir, are dead wrong. I specifically believe that NOBODY can "cure" non-PTSD, clinical depression. And I reaffirm that for those to whom death is a kindness, suicide is an option, and their right.

And I didn't mention my kids in any other capacity than having honest conversations. I wouldn't actually use my own children as fodder in a conversation with internet randos.
 
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Your attempts at trying to convince us how much you know shows how little you really do.

You have no business speaking on things you really know nothing about..

Like severe depression, age, and ptsd, or as you put it traumatic life experience.

Your not even a minnow or little just hatched fry in this pond. Especially if you want to start talking about ptsd, depression, etc.

Your implications suggest you think only shrinks and pills can cure depression and that your kids are immune from depression simply because they have you as a dad?

I will pray for you and your kids.

I don't know what he's talking about because I have him Ignored, but I can tell you there are many ways to treat PTSD and depression. I know of one Vet who dealt with PTSD for years without shrinks or meds with little success. His sister gave him a puppy and he became a new man. He took to training his puppy and that knocked down all of his issues. He's been fine ever since. No shrinks or meds. I will say that pup turned into a great dog. Very well mannered. The guy just needed something in his life and that pup turned out to do the trick.

I'm not saying there aren't some who will need doctor's care and maybe even meds, but in my opinion, we've got enough drugged kids, we don't need drugged vets. They want to a strong member of society, not some drugged zombie.
 
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Just trying to stir the pot not purée it.

Just one of the many ways I have been and still am attacked.

Some of y’all already know some of the things I’m going through right now.

The icing on the cake is that I have a judge trying to tell me I cannot even have a gun in the house my family of 5 resides in despite the fact I am a constitutional American that was born here and have committed no crime and not even charged with anything more than a misdemeanor.

It is obvious to me if I had not a family right now my war would be well underway.

It is also obvious at this time I’d be lonely with no one to stand and fight with me yet.

Guys like me are just one car wreck away or just one more corrupt judge trying to make me into the criminal while releasing law breakers and refusing to charge real criminals.

How am I to even enter into a supposed court room that is trying to tell me this?

Do they all think we’ve never read the constitution?

I need help. I need wise counsel.
 
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