PortaJohn

Huh, good thing I saw this. Had NO IDEA there was a COVID-19 "vaccine".
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800,000 deceased folks would disagree. Flu, which is actually endemic, takes approximately 12,000 lives in a slow season like 2012 and in a bad year like 2018 takes a high of around 61,000...
Florida's death per capita rate from covid is significantly lower than several states, including New York and New Jersey.
 
800,000 deceased folks would disagree. Flu, which is actually endemic, takes approximately 12,000 lives in a slow season like 2012 and in a bad year like 2018 takes a high of around 61,000...
Ya kinda left out 1918. Spanish flu. 50,000,000 deaths.

But hey, if stats don't support your argument...
 
800,000 deceased folks would disagree. Flu, which is actually endemic, takes approximately 12,000 lives in a slow season like 2012 and in a bad year like 2018 takes a high of around 61,000...
800,000 died with a prior positive pcr test within a certain period, NOT FROM the covid-19.
this number is misinformation and the cdc already admitted only 6% of this figure had no other factors in their deaths.

if they listed all of the 2.5 million that die every year that might have had the regular flu sometime before they died, the numbers may be similar.
 
That is why you HAVE to be a cynic in order to deal with this type of shit. Leftists start guilt tripping?

My answer: Fuck you. So what if I am selfish? I don't give a shit. Fuck around and find out...

Them: You are a cold and heartless person.

Me: Thats right, and it ain't changing no time soon. What are you gonna do about it?

Been there done that. Shuts shit right down every time.

Folks claiming to care about others while they're terrified they'll lose the ability to kill their own babies.
 
@Dthomas3523

So why do you allow the FAG guy to come into our forum and stir the pot but then ban Bender......

You know what fag is doing and are allowing it so you are condoning his behavior.....why? THE Bear Pit would all love to hear the reasoning behind this.....


Seems like some fucking ulterior motives going on here......

Just saying of course.

Doc

Because Bender piped up about a bunch of Anti-Christ’s. And historically if you speak wrong about anti-Christ’s, they and their ardent supporters maneuver in such a way to shut you and you business down. in. extreme examples they kill you.

For those Christians that believe you're supposed to support a bunch of antichrists under the threat of a Godly curse then I’d suggest picking up a Bible and learning that Gods lost people are clueless as to who they are until Jesus returns. If they don’t know who they are, then how the hell do you think your pastor knows. He doesn’t.
 
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My Dad, who's 82, had his booster before Thanksgiving. He is now in the hospital and today they are going to try shocking him to get his heart rate back to normal. His heart is racing and irregular beat. He's been on oxygen since Tuesday and I haven't been able to talk to him because he can barely breath. I'll find out later this evening if the procedure worked from me Mom.
Praying your father is able to get through this.
 
I left out that example because that was a pandemic. I was trying to highlight the differences between the types of death tolls seen in an average year versus when there is a pandemic to counter the claim that Covid-19 was never a pandemic.
before covid, the cdc claimed at as many as 40% of americans get the seasonal flu every year (more typically 15-25% i think).
if they listed everyone that died that also might have had the flu sometime before they passed away, what would those numbers look like?
 
That is a pretty noble stance, and worthy of recognition. After, (or rather mostly during) my whole experience getting Covid, and then pneumonia from Covid, I completely lost faith in my normal Doctor. It used to be a small office with 3-4 docs who knew your name. Now the hospital bought them or whatever the hell hospitals do and it's 20 plus different doctors and you don't really talk with a Doc. Mostly it is a conversation with a nurse who says they will "ask the doc" if you have any questions. Then you get a call back a day later if you are lucky and it is a office person basically reading a note from a Doc.

I seem to be on the backside of this deal now, and I am actively seeking out a different doc for my healthcare needs. I have an appt with a much smaller office on Tuesday, hoping to make a connection and find someone who seems to care. Bedside manner and actually caring about a patient still mean something these days, I feel like that has been lost.
I am starting to feel the same way. I've always trusted my doctors. When I was in the Military, if, and when, I did have to go to the clinic, I saw a different doc, even for follow-ups. I was good with that. It was, what it was. Then, I got hired as an ART (Air Reserve Technician). My medical coverage was through Kaiser, then FHP. Those HMO's worked the same way as the Mil., never the same doc.
I think we are headed in the same direction once .gov steps fully in (it's gotten worse with Osama Care). When you do have to see a doc, you'll have to see 2 or 4 before your issue is taken care of. Hell, I've got a new doc, seen her maybe 4 times in 2 years. Now my HMO gives these doc's 3 months vacation after supposedly, 12 months of treating patients, because, being overworked( ??),not sure. So, if I have a follow-up for something, chances are I won't be able to see her, it will be someone else.
I do worry, if this shit keeps going on, that the (doctors) Hippocratic Oath might be pushed to it's limits and begin to start meaning something more on the fringe of it's actual meaning.
Just spit-ball'n here, conspiracies' abound. But, that's where we're at in all of this. Lots of distrust in the making. Mac🤷‍♂️
 
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See the blip from the 2018 bad flu season previously mentioned?


I'm sure we could spend all day going back and forth on the numbers, the fact checks, the screen caps from where ever. You're going to use debunked arguments that the numbers are inflated, I'm going to use official stats that the other 90% of the world accepts. We're never going to agree. Regardless, there is a pandemic. I didn't think that needs to be debated. The excess deaths are there and documented. Is 800,000 the absolute laser level, drop dead, accurate number? Seems pedantic to debate. In the end we're back to the statement that it looks like Omicron is less severe than Delta or Alpha. Looks like it will be endemic by 2024 or sooner.

Viruses have a track record of starting out deadly, killing a lot of people, evolving to becoming even more transmissible, but killing less. I wish the misinformation you helped spread that kept a lot of people from getting vaccinated early on had followed the same path.
what that shows is about 20-30k extra deaths, or about the same as an extremely bad year for seasonal flu.
 
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See the blip from the 2018 bad flu season previously mentioned?


I'm sure we could spend all day going back and forth on the numbers, the fact checks, the screen caps from where ever. You're going to use debunked arguments that the numbers are inflated, I'm going to use official stats that the other 90% of the world accepts. We're never going to agree. Regardless, there is a pandemic. I didn't think that needs to be debated. The excess deaths are there and documented. Is 800,000 the absolute laser level, drop dead, accurate number? Seems pedantic to debate. In the end we're back to the statement that it looks like Omicron is less severe than Delta or Alpha. Looks like it will be endemic by 2024 or sooner.

Viruses have a track record of starting out deadly, killing a lot of people, evolving to becoming even more transmissible, but killing less. I wish the misinformation you helped spread that kept a lot of people from getting vaccinated early on had followed the same path.

what that shows is about 20-30k extra deaths, or about the same as an extremely bad year for seasonal flu.

So we should make Fauci our shadow President, let him tell us what holidays to celebrate, accept forced medical procedures, destroy the economy and accept career losses.........

Right.........
 
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See the blip from the 2018 bad flu season previously mentioned?


I'm sure we could spend all day going back and forth on the numbers, the fact checks, the screen caps from where ever. You're going to use debunked arguments that the numbers are inflated, I'm going to use official stats that the other 90% of the world accepts. We're never going to agree. Regardless, there is a pandemic. I didn't think that needs to be debated. The excess deaths are there and documented. Is 800,000 the absolute laser level, drop dead, accurate number? Seems pedantic to debate. In the end we're back to the statement that it looks like Omicron is less severe than Delta or Alpha. Looks like it will be endemic by 2024 or sooner.

Viruses have a track record of starting out deadly, killing a lot of people, evolving to becoming even more transmissible, but killing less. I wish the misinformation you helped spread that kept a lot of people from getting vaccinated early on had followed the same path.
The other 90% of the world accepts? I'm going to go waaaaaaaaaaay back to the argument I heard from adults when I was a kid... "If everyone was jumping off a cliff, would you join them?"

Debunked? According to.... ? Fact checkers? Dumbest, lamest argument I've ever heard. Look at the fine print on ANY "fact checking" organization's website, I dare you. They ALL say their fact checks are opinions. You sound like everyone too lazy to spend a couple of hours or days doing your own research.

There are NO fact checkers online, only propaganda pushers. All lies are not propaganda, but all propaganda are lies. Fact check that moron.

The CDC has come out in August this past year, and told everyone that the death rate FROM Covid was about 6-9%. Fact, from the same "organization" the sheep pledge their allegiance. The same organization that is funded by all the people pushing this bullshit agenda. And why? Fucking money. Plain and simple. It's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS about fucking money. Money ain't evil , but people's LOVE for it is. Fact.

Dude, you're back-pedaling because a mod told you to cut your bullshit, and now you're like "oh oh, I'm just trying to have my voice heard" when in fact you LOVE being that bitch in the woodpile.

Fuck your RIP posts, your bullshit MSM parroting, your reporting of members here because you don't have thick enough skin to hang with the big boys - you're a coward keyboard warrior, your kung-fu is weak as shit, and you just love being the fuckwad that tries to get under everyone's skin. You could write a book on "How to get yourself off everyone's Christmas Card list in 10 easy steps", and you'd be proud of that.

Damn dude, know when to quit. Not many folks here buy your brand of bullshit, that's why we're HERE. Calling everything anyone else has to say "misinformation" and labeling them "Holocaust Deniers" is just a pussy way out when your arguments holds ZERO fucking water.

Fuck off.

Oh, and Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Be sure to wear your mask when unwrapping your presents this year too.

And don't forget to get your boosters ;) Please.
 
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I left out that example because that was a pandemic. I was trying to highlight the differences between the types of death tolls seen in an average year versus when there is a pandemic to counter the claim that Covid-19 was never a pandemic.
In this day and age, everything is a pandemic. AIDS, chlamydia, syphilis, malaria and stupidity. The flu, every year, is a pandemic. At least that's how Oxford's defines it.

Pandemic

- occurring over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affecting a significant proportion of the population.
 
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Merriam-Webster reports that "pandemic" is the seventh most frequently looked-up word in its online dictionary this year. The definition: "occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting an exceptionally high proportion of the population."​

Pedantic, to a tee
 
I'm almost a doctor. You can come see me or text me or any advice and it will always be free.

I dont believe in charging people to pass along my knowledge. My wife gets mad that I say this. I think I may have some major decisions in life coming up.

Doc
I’m still not letting you put your finger in my ass.
 
It's only gay if you relax when he does it...

I still remember the nurse when I was getting checked for appendicitis - "Just relax, just relax..."

Yeah, sure, mmm hmmm, not wired like that Ms. Nurse Thing.

If they were checking you appendix by sticking their finger in your ass you were lied to.