Rifle Scopes Primary Arms acss reticle

[Romeo458]

I usually don't go cheap and tend buy Gucci optics as my friend puts it, but I'm infatuated with this reticle. When they come back in stock I am probably going to pick up one of the FFP in 7.62x39/300 blackout to put on my deer rifle in 350 legend because the ballistics are virtually identical to at least 300. In the area I hunt 200 is about the longest possible shot.

I'm assembling an AR and have been looking at LPVO options. I haven't found a reticle close to this I like. For one thing I like the Chevron radical as opposed to a cross hair or the cross hair with a dog like so many use For one thing I like the Chevron radical as opposed to a cross hair or the cross hair with a dot like so many use. I've thought about an Acog as I have a couple of retired, but not retired marine friends who were absolutely in love with those things but I prefer having the variable option.

So the point of this post, has anyone used this thing and does it actually stack up for a scope that I am not going to be using to dial as much or at all to something that costs more? And is there something in the 2k or less that has a similar reticle?

 

[db2000]

It’s fantastic. Theres nothing cheap about the Platinum line. Built like a tank in Japan. I love the ACSS Griffin on my 1-8. It’s a good deal. They offer 10% off if you email them and ask for it.
It just not came back in stock so I wouldn’t dick around too long if you want it.

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[cake5150]

I'm a night optics snob but not a day optics snob, so take this for exactly what you paid for it. I've had three ACSS 1-6 and two ACSS 1-8 SFP scopes and liked them all. They are just spectacular for the money. The turrets are largely mush (these are not dialing scopes, as you pointed out) and the glass quality is nothing to write home about but it gets the job done. They hold zero and the reticle is great for getting hits on torsos well beyond 200 yd. At 700-800 yd the accuracy of the holdover becomes less spot-on since temperature and velocity variance (from what the reticle was calibrated for) have greater impact at those distances. The eye box is NOT like a Razor 1-6, but it isn't terrible either. They are fairly light, though. If their Platinum 1-8 wasn't a Rosie O'Donnell, I might have tried that (even though it is a FFP LPVO). I'm a firm believer in SFP for LPVOs and FFP for all other variables. As long as you understand what you are getting (not Schmidt glass and no dialing corrections), it is unlikely that you will be disappointed.

 

[db2000]

I'm a night optics snob but not a day optics snob, so take this for exactly what you paid for it. I've had three ACSS 1-6 and two ACSS 1-8 SFP scopes and liked them all. They are just spectacular for the money. The turrets are largely mush (these are not dialing scopes, as you pointed out) and the glass quality is nothing to write home about but it gets the job done. They hold zero and the reticle is great for getting hits on torsos well beyond 200 yd. At 700-800 yd the accuracy of the holdover becomes less spot-on since temperature and velocity variance (from what the reticle was calibrated for) have greater impact at those distances. The eye box is NOT like a Razor 1-6, but it isn't terrible either. They are fairly light, though. If their Platinum 1-8 wasn't a Rosie O'Donnell, I might have tried that (even though it is a FFP LPVO). I'm a firm believer in SFP for LPVOs and FFP for all other variables. As long as you understand what you are getting (not Schmidt glass and no dialing corrections), it is unlikely that you will be disappointed.

I’ve used the SL-x series you pointed out and agree 100%. The PL-x is heavy but it’s reticle is designed for FFP. Also everything from turrets to glass is leaps above the Silver series. Haven’t messed with the new Gold series yet. My comparison is a PMII T3 and ZCO 527 M3 I own. The glass is close to PMII if not negligible. Unfortunately I can’t speak to NV use but plenty have left good reviews of the NV mode illumination. They’re may be better ones just wanted to offer my opinion. I appreciate yours also.

 

[marsh1]

Just wanted to let the OP know when you but a PA scope from our .com you get 90 days no questions asked return policy. Thanks!

 

[Kickin45]

I am SERIOUSLY considering either the SLx 1-8 ffp or the PLx 1-8 for my MDRX.
I love the ret they offer. And as I’ve learned over the years, buy the reticle you like.
I wish there were some better reviews of the SLx out there.
This is only going to be used out to 500yds or so, so I’m not sure the PLx is needed, except that is has ranging in the ret.
Would love to hear some real world reviews.

 

[Romeo458]

Just wanted to let the OP know when you but a PA scope from our .com you get 90 days no questions asked return policy. Thanks!

So you gonna have the acss acog back any time soon? I mounted your 762x39 to my 350 legend. The ballistics on paper are pretty close once I get a chance to go to arrange past 100 I'll go ahead and post up my findings as to how close it hits.

 

[marsh1]

So you gonna have the acss acog back any time soon? I mounted your 762x39 to my 350 legend. The ballistics on paper are pretty close once I get a chance to go to arrange past 100 I'll go ahead and post up my findings as to how close it hits.

They trickle in. PM me the one you are looking for.

 

[Primary Arms]

I am SERIOUSLY considering either the SLx 1-8 ffp or the PLx 1-8 for my MDRX.
I love the rest they offer. And as I’ve learned over the years, buy the reticle you like.
I wish there were some better reviews of the SLx out there.
This is only going to be used out to 500yds or so, so I’m not sure the PLx is needed, except that is has ranging in the ret.
Would love to hear some real world reviews.

Both of these optics would be an excellent choice. We would like to clarify that both do offer ranging in the reticle. The PLx is going to give you 2 more tier levels up, which does include precision engineering, premium glass and light transmission not to mention these are Purpose built for tactical shooting, competition or hunting.

 

[Kickin45]

 

[Kickin45]

@Primary Arms I was speaking about the visual aiming cues direct you to determine your target’s range on the sides of the PLX.
That is truly handy to have.

 

[Primary Arms]

 

[Judcargile]

I am in the market for a LPVO and willing to spend. I am very much attracted to the Griffin Mill recticle. It seems faster and easier than any other out there. The Platinum series is a contender, no doubt! The least exciting attribute for what I have seen so far is weight, but, I am willing to add the micro prism to the kit too.
I would like to know more about this gold series.

 

[Judcargile]

Boo Gold. The I will need PL

 

[marsh1]

I am in the market for a LPVO and willing to spend. I am very much attracted to the Griffin Mill recticle. It seems faster and easier than any other out there. The Platinum series is a contender, no doubt! The least exciting attribute for what I have seen so far is weight, but, I am willing to add the micro prism to the kit too.
I would like to know more about this gold series.

If you get our Plx 1-8 you wouldn't need a secondary 1X optic. I will get updated ETA on the new mid tier Glx (no Gold series) LPVOs. They are high quality made in the Philippines with our newest ACSS reticles.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I am in the market for a LPVO and willing to spend. I am very much attracted to the Griffin Mill recticle. It seems faster and easier than any other out there. The Platinum series is a contender, no doubt! The least exciting attribute for what I have seen so far is weight, but, I am willing to add the micro prism to the kit too.
I would like to know more about this gold series.

I've personally handled both the silver series and the Platinum series, I have not seen a gold series yet.

In the LPVO from Primary Arms, If you don't mind the weight, the PLX 1-8 one is an excellent value for the money, it has great glass, nice turrents, illumination with an off after every brightness setting and has one of the few reticles that can actually work on 1x just fine.
You probably don't need any red dots with that one, just leave it at 1X when you are not using it and you'll be quicker than trying to find your micro dot.

The SLX series is fine for the poors, and if that's all you can afford, it's decent, but the PLX is really worth the extra.

While some folks say you should go with SFP, I'm going to suggest that they are mostly saying that because they have all been used to seeing stuff like on the Razor Gen III or others where at 1x the reticle is useless without illumination cranked way up.

The nice thing about the ACSS is that it works at 1x even in dim light even without illumination to bracket your target good enough for most close run and gun type engagements and put a round where it goes.

For something that you will be using as a self defense gun, this is a big deal.

Now if you mostly want to go to the range and shoot small groups, something like the Razor III is a better choice (but then again why are you getting an LPVO and not just something like a 3-15 scope?)

 

[Judcargile]

If you get our Plx 1-8 you wouldn't need a secondary 1X optic. I will get updated ETA on the new mid tier Glx (no Gold series) LPVOs. They are high quality made in the Philippines with our newest ACSS reticles.

I am absolutely getting the PL 1-8. It does all that I would ever need. The micro prism is useful to me because having a back up is prudent and I think on longer treks, it would be preferable to nearly 2lbs if scope. I am so impressed with the ACSS that I am passing over all other brands. I assume that the weight had to be sacrificed for durability, so, not really complaining; I just really hate to have been able to get into a 5lb rifle and end up with 3 + lbs of accessories on it. No other LPVO that I am aware of has the ACSS, durability and clarity. I could settle for a Nightforce, Leopold, Vortex or Sig and save a few ounces; But, with the ACSS, I will have faster and fewer shots. I think so anyway.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I am absolutely getting the PL 1-8. It does all that I would ever need. The micro prism is useful to me because having a back up is prudent and I think on longer treks, it would be preferable to nearly 2lbs if scope. I am so impressed with the ACSS that I am passing over all other brands. I assume that the weight had to be sacrificed for durability, so, not really complaining; I just really hate to have been able to get into a 5lb rifle and end up with 3 + lbs of accessories on it. No other LPVO that I am aware of has the ACSS, durability and clarity. I could settle for a Nightforce, Leopold, Vortex or Sig and save a few ounces; But, with the ACSS, I will have faster and fewer shots. I think so anyway.

You could get down to about a pound with the March scopes, however you are looking at more than double the cost of the Primary Arms PLX series.
You also need a special mount for it.

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IF weight was your biggest concern, and money was no object then March would be a good bet.
The reticle is usable at 1x but is not quite the just pull it up and go that the ACSS offers.

 

[Judcargile]

You could get down to about a pound with the March scopes, however you are looking at more than double the cost of the Primary Arms PLX series.
You also need a special mount for it.

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IF weight was your biggest concern, and money was no object then March would be a good bet.
The reticle is usable at 1x but is not quite the just pull it up and go that the ACSS offers.

Recticle matters more than weight to me. I rather have a second lighter optic; But, thanks for the input, I will look at them.

 

[Romeo458]

I have been enjoying my ACOG. I have also purchased a 1 to 6 with the 762x39 300 blackout reticle to put on my 350 legend hunting rifle.

My shooting group has had an ammo stock problem this year so I haven't been able to get down to our 500 yd range to confirm drops but on paper it looks pretty damn close. I'll post up something for those interested when I do.

 

[Ape_Factory]

Actually just purchased the same scope (1-6x) and it arrived this week. Hoping to hit the range tomorrow to test it out on my 300 Blk SBR. Really like the fact it has an aim point for supers and subs. My only complaint thus far is barrel distortion at 1X. It's not a deal killer but I notice it. Both turrets are capped which has it's plusses and minuses. I had a Bushnell 1-4X FFP but the reticle was for 5.56 and the thickness of it just didn't work for me at anything over 50 yards with subs. The glass is superior though and the reticle works well with 5.56 and has the same semi-circle but with a dot in the center vs. a chevron. I'm actually finding I like the dot more but I just need to work with the chevron more I guess.