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Re: Promethius 2 powder measure who sells them>?
nope just thought I would look into it Terry.
now I understand there only leased for approx $2850.00
nope just thought I would look into it Terry.
now I understand there only leased for approx $2850.00
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Spending the money on training will improve your shooting much more than having a Promethius will.
Spending the money on training will improve your shooting much more than having a Promethius will.
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I'll second and third that....
Hard to beat quality trigger time.
Topstrap
I'll second and third that....
Hard to beat quality trigger time.
Topstrap
Re: Promethius 2 powder measure who sells them>?
I heard it is just an adult version of the Mouse Trap board game.
Ern
I heard it is just an adult version of the Mouse Trap board game.
Ern
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Your North of the Mason Dixon line too! I beleive there is a self destruct system installed in them if they are shipped to far North. LOL.
Terry
Your North of the Mason Dixon line too! I beleive there is a self destruct system installed in them if they are shipped to far North. LOL.
Terry
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spending the money on training will improve your shooting much more than having a Promethius will.
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of course to do well to improve your shooting, a good gun with good ammunition is a must....prometheous makes match winning ammunition.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spending the money on training will improve your shooting much more than having a Promethius will.
</div></div>
of course to do well to improve your shooting, a good gun with good ammunition is a must....prometheous makes match winning ammunition.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Stoffels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">contact info and cost ?
Thanks Bill </div></div>
Best I can do Bill...Web site impossible but maybe with e-mail or phone number you can get in touch.
For More Information, Contact:
Brand Cole, [email protected]
Prometheus Tool Corp.
Telephone: (425) 239-9100
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Stoffels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">contact info and cost ?
Thanks Bill </div></div>
Best I can do Bill...Web site impossible but maybe with e-mail or phone number you can get in touch.
For More Information, Contact:
Brand Cole, [email protected]
Prometheus Tool Corp.
Telephone: (425) 239-9100
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An easy 6 rounds a minute of loaded MATCH quality ammo.
VS
20 rounds per 15 min the way me and Bill roll them..
Sounds like Bill would have more time to shoot..
lol
An easy 6 rounds a minute of loaded MATCH quality ammo.
VS
20 rounds per 15 min the way me and Bill roll them..
Sounds like Bill would have more time to shoot..
lol
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spending the money on training will improve your shooting much more than having a Promethius will.
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of course to do well to improve your shooting, a good gun with good ammunition is a must....prometheous makes match winning ammunition. </div></div>
I'll second and third that....
Hard to beat quality match grade ammo that takes all the guess work out. Using the promethius 2, I know my loads are right and all the same, everytime. The RCBs chargemaster combo was good, but the P2 is vastly better.
As to the speed of the P2. It is faster then I can seat a round in a charged case. (faster then chargemaster)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spending the money on training will improve your shooting much more than having a Promethius will.
</div></div>
of course to do well to improve your shooting, a good gun with good ammunition is a must....prometheous makes match winning ammunition. </div></div>
I'll second and third that....
Hard to beat quality match grade ammo that takes all the guess work out. Using the promethius 2, I know my loads are right and all the same, everytime. The RCBs chargemaster combo was good, but the P2 is vastly better.
As to the speed of the P2. It is faster then I can seat a round in a charged case. (faster then chargemaster)
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For most tactical shooters, including working snipers and tactical match shooters, who need to hit the target on a first shot, loading ammo to the standard which the Prometheus is capable of is a complete waste of money.
It's a great gadget for square-range competitive shooters, who get sighters, because they can just adjust to the conditions that they're shooting in.
Which doesn't work for snipers and/or tactical match shooters, who get at most two shots, and mostly just one, at a target at a given range.
One of the things Denton Bramwell found was this:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">5. If you’re not worried about a 3 degree F change in powder temperature, don’t worry about a tenth of a grain of powder more or less, in rifle cartridges similar to this one. Both produce about the same change in pressure and muzzle velocity.
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Do many people know anything about the temperature response of their load?
No.
Do any people know the temperature response of their load to 3 degrees, <span style="font-weight: bold">and</span> compensate their sight settings accordingly?
I suspect the number can be counted on the fingers of one hand. I've never met one.
And lots of powder measures will do a tenth of a grain or so, and it's easy to dump below that and trickle up to it, if you don't have one of those.
Except for square range NRA competition shooters, the Prometheus is snake oil, and very expensive snake oil at that.
But this is Sniper's Hide, the site for the serious tactical shooter.
The reference is here:
http://www.shootingsoftware.com/ftp/Pressure%20Factors.pdf
For most tactical shooters, including working snipers and tactical match shooters, who need to hit the target on a first shot, loading ammo to the standard which the Prometheus is capable of is a complete waste of money.
It's a great gadget for square-range competitive shooters, who get sighters, because they can just adjust to the conditions that they're shooting in.
Which doesn't work for snipers and/or tactical match shooters, who get at most two shots, and mostly just one, at a target at a given range.
One of the things Denton Bramwell found was this:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">5. If you’re not worried about a 3 degree F change in powder temperature, don’t worry about a tenth of a grain of powder more or less, in rifle cartridges similar to this one. Both produce about the same change in pressure and muzzle velocity.
</div></div>
Do many people know anything about the temperature response of their load?
No.
Do any people know the temperature response of their load to 3 degrees, <span style="font-weight: bold">and</span> compensate their sight settings accordingly?
I suspect the number can be counted on the fingers of one hand. I've never met one.
And lots of powder measures will do a tenth of a grain or so, and it's easy to dump below that and trickle up to it, if you don't have one of those.
Except for square range NRA competition shooters, the Prometheus is snake oil, and very expensive snake oil at that.
But this is Sniper's Hide, the site for the serious tactical shooter.
The reference is here:
http://www.shootingsoftware.com/ftp/Pressure%20Factors.pdf
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The RCBs chargemaster combo was good, but the P2 is vastly better.
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That is what I have been told. I can't see limiting variables as a bad thing. That said brown box special shoots better than I do...
Regards, Matt.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The RCBs chargemaster combo was good, but the P2 is vastly better.
</div></div>
That is what I have been told. I can't see limiting variables as a bad thing. That said brown box special shoots better than I do...
Regards, Matt.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lindy is such a killjoy
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Yeah he can be at times...LOL
That said he is the ONLY man on this site that I read every single post he makes. I've known two brilliant folks who turned their attention to shooting and oddly enough BOTH are named Lindy. Specifically our Lindy and Lindy Lindstrom at the Colorado School of Trades. When I first entered the school Lindy Lindstrom was aloof and, I thought, somewhat of a dick. Two years later he gave me his recommendation for a civilian gunsmith at SPECWAR as he had more Navy contacts that you could shake a stick at...
I've never met our Lindy in person, however, I've been fortunate enough to read his thoughts, via posts, for years. They have affected me profoundly AND have reinforced the power of rational thought. I am now working on his minimalist mantra as I have become trapped by crap..(grin) The only problem is most of it is extremely expensive crap and I am trying to find a new home for it. Rambling now. In short listen to the Lindys...
Regards, Matt Garrett
757-581-6270
Btw, I always suspected I was modestly intelligent as the cherished board at Harvard allowed me to enter the yard, however, I QUICKLY learned I was out of my league and fortunate to be amongst the sharpest of pencils. Dealing with the two Lindys was a similar experience. That said like Ross Perot I do my best to pay attention/hire folks that are smarter than I am(no great challenge).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lindy is such a killjoy
Yeah he can be at times...LOL
That said he is the ONLY man on this site that I read every single post he makes. I've known two brilliant folks who turned their attention to shooting and oddly enough BOTH are named Lindy. Specifically our Lindy and Lindy Lindstrom at the Colorado School of Trades. When I first entered the school Lindy Lindstrom was aloof and, I thought, somewhat of a dick. Two years later he gave me his recommendation for a civilian gunsmith at SPECWAR as he had more Navy contacts that you could shake a stick at...
I've never met our Lindy in person, however, I've been fortunate enough to read his thoughts, via posts, for years. They have affected me profoundly AND have reinforced the power of rational thought. I am now working on his minimalist mantra as I have become trapped by crap..(grin) The only problem is most of it is extremely expensive crap and I am trying to find a new home for it. Rambling now. In short listen to the Lindys...
Regards, Matt Garrett
757-581-6270
Btw, I always suspected I was modestly intelligent as the cherished board at Harvard allowed me to enter the yard, however, I QUICKLY learned I was out of my league and fortunate to be amongst the sharpest of pencils. Dealing with the two Lindys was a similar experience. That said like Ross Perot I do my best to pay attention/hire folks that are smarter than I am(no great challenge).
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I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one?
I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one?
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Your right on , I also thought that I would never spend the $500.00on a giraud trimmer but that was some of the best money I have spent to date , just looking at options but I do think " for me " loading to the Kernel is mandatory"
Thanks for all the concerns I do also agree that training is key. but have to have the equipment and ammunition to start on the right track.
Bill
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 4Rail_Gunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An easy 6 rounds a minute of loaded MATCH quality ammo.
VS
20 rounds per 15 min the way me and Bill roll them..
Sounds like Bill would have more time to shoot..
lol </div></div>
Your right on , I also thought that I would never spend the $500.00on a giraud trimmer but that was some of the best money I have spent to date , just looking at options but I do think " for me " loading to the Kernel is mandatory"
Thanks for all the concerns I do also agree that training is key. but have to have the equipment and ammunition to start on the right track.
Bill
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 4Rail_Gunner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">An easy 6 rounds a minute of loaded MATCH quality ammo.
VS
20 rounds per 15 min the way me and Bill roll them..
Sounds like Bill would have more time to shoot..
lol </div></div>
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Easy to answer that
NONE
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RQI</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one? </div></div>
Easy to answer that
NONE
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RQI</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one? </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one?</div></div>
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
I'm not putting them down for people whose shooting can benefit from using one.
As I said, if you're an NRA square range KD competitor, and want to spend the money, bravo - have at it.
But that's not what many of the people here do.
Most of us have limited amounts of money, and have to prioritize our spending.
And I know orders of magnitude more people whose shooting would improve substantially with competent training than I do people whose shooting is suffering from the quality of their ammunition.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one?</div></div>
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
I'm not putting them down for people whose shooting can benefit from using one.
As I said, if you're an NRA square range KD competitor, and want to spend the money, bravo - have at it.
But that's not what many of the people here do.
Most of us have limited amounts of money, and have to prioritize our spending.
And I know orders of magnitude more people whose shooting would improve substantially with competent training than I do people whose shooting is suffering from the quality of their ammunition.
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Less time in the reloading room loading match ammo and more time on the range.
Only you can know what your time is worth.
Less time in the reloading room loading match ammo and more time on the range.
Only you can know what your time is worth.
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The beauty of the Prometheus is the economy of motion engineered for the reloader. Even if you don't care about the precision of the Prometheus I would be willing to bet that most want at least +/- 0.1 grain. My volumetric measure won't do that and manually trickling takes time. If you are currently using a Chargemaster to get you to +/- 0.1 you will find that the time it takes the P2 to throw charges is about 30-50% of the time it take to throw the same number of charges on the Chargemaster. Also the Chargemaster cannot get to the same level of precision as the P2 really gets to the one kernal accuracy. I don't have much time with my line of work so the price is worth it to me. The precision is bonus.
The beauty of the Prometheus is the economy of motion engineered for the reloader. Even if you don't care about the precision of the Prometheus I would be willing to bet that most want at least +/- 0.1 grain. My volumetric measure won't do that and manually trickling takes time. If you are currently using a Chargemaster to get you to +/- 0.1 you will find that the time it takes the P2 to throw charges is about 30-50% of the time it take to throw the same number of charges on the Chargemaster. Also the Chargemaster cannot get to the same level of precision as the P2 really gets to the one kernal accuracy. I don't have much time with my line of work so the price is worth it to me. The precision is bonus.
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Brand is a very nice fellow, but I have doubts that most who want one, and can afford one, will ever get one. He is quite backed up at this time and the end is not in sight. Won't keep me from trying though. He is a great guy to visit with.
Brand is a very nice fellow, but I have doubts that most who want one, and can afford one, will ever get one. He is quite backed up at this time and the end is not in sight. Won't keep me from trying though. He is a great guy to visit with.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fng23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard it is just an adult version of the Mouse Trap board game.
Ern </div></div>
You heard wrong.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fng23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard it is just an adult version of the Mouse Trap board game.
Ern </div></div>
You heard wrong.
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ah.........musings of the un-washed....Boltripper sits on his hands
ah.........musings of the un-washed....Boltripper sits on his hands
Re: Promethius 2 powder measure who sells them>?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt in Virginia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lindy is such a killjoy
</div></div>
Yeah he can be at times...LOL
That said he is the ONLY man on this site that I read every single post he makes. </div></div>
Not to make this a thread about Lindy, but I too am guilty of Lindy stalking. Sometimes I have to read his posts twice for my small mind to wrap around what he's saying....but it's always golden.
Like this one for example
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one?</div></div>
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt in Virginia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lindy is such a killjoy
Yeah he can be at times...LOL
That said he is the ONLY man on this site that I read every single post he makes. </div></div>
Not to make this a thread about Lindy, but I too am guilty of Lindy stalking. Sometimes I have to read his posts twice for my small mind to wrap around what he's saying....but it's always golden.
Like this one for example
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many Promethes detractors have actually used one?</div></div>
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
</div></div>
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Rather you think necessary or not, you have to admit that total perfection is nice, plus it looks like a very efficient machine.
Too bad their not readily available, or priced even somewhat reasonably...
Rather you think necessary or not, you have to admit that total perfection is nice, plus it looks like a very efficient machine.
Too bad their not readily available, or priced even somewhat reasonably...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...you have to admit that total perfection is nice...</div></div>
Absolutely. I am an admirer of Brand Cole, who's a smart guy and an innovative thinker.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...you have to admit that total perfection is nice...</div></div>
Absolutely. I am an admirer of Brand Cole, who's a smart guy and an innovative thinker.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For most tactical shooters, including working snipers and tactical match shooters, who need to hit the target on a first shot, loading ammo to the standard which the Prometheus is capable of is a complete waste of money.
</div></div>
I believe just the opposite. If you can launch only one or two rounds, they better be loaded "perfectly", meaning their external ballistics should be predictable and repeatable at the time you pull the trigger. (Oddly, that's what the benchrest guys do and I've learned alot from them.) If you can launch tens of rounds at a target, then ballistic predictability is less important because you're gonna eventually hit the target statistically.
I have a P2 because it drastically reduces the time and tedium of precision ammo loading. You can earn more money, but you can only save time. The P2 is expensive up front (it boils down to only $10/month during the lease), but it does save a lot of time and you leave your workbench with confidence in your ammo. If you don't load your own ammo, I think you're missing an important part of the shooting experience. If I had the tools to make my own rifles, I would - my grandfather was a tool and die maker and my father an inventor, craftsman, chemist and physicist.
You don't have to give up time at the range for a P2 and you don't have to guess whether it's you or your ammo that missed.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For most tactical shooters, including working snipers and tactical match shooters, who need to hit the target on a first shot, loading ammo to the standard which the Prometheus is capable of is a complete waste of money.
</div></div>
I believe just the opposite. If you can launch only one or two rounds, they better be loaded "perfectly", meaning their external ballistics should be predictable and repeatable at the time you pull the trigger. (Oddly, that's what the benchrest guys do and I've learned alot from them.) If you can launch tens of rounds at a target, then ballistic predictability is less important because you're gonna eventually hit the target statistically.
I have a P2 because it drastically reduces the time and tedium of precision ammo loading. You can earn more money, but you can only save time. The P2 is expensive up front (it boils down to only $10/month during the lease), but it does save a lot of time and you leave your workbench with confidence in your ammo. If you don't load your own ammo, I think you're missing an important part of the shooting experience. If I had the tools to make my own rifles, I would - my grandfather was a tool and die maker and my father an inventor, craftsman, chemist and physicist.
You don't have to give up time at the range for a P2 and you don't have to guess whether it's you or your ammo that missed.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.</div></div>
Classic!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.</div></div>
Classic!
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i learned long ago in this game that we play.....if you got the technology, BRING IT....
back when many matches would prohibit lasers.....this has changed.
who here ran matches being a top loader......? this has changed
who here ran rifles without brakes...........? this has changed
and amongst other advances, bullet technology has changed also, thus the savvy can roll their own to a degree of perfection previously not attained from off the shelf product in a quick and efficient manner.
perfect ammo is final, and marksmanship skills are perishable....this will never change
i learned long ago in this game that we play.....if you got the technology, BRING IT....
back when many matches would prohibit lasers.....this has changed.
who here ran matches being a top loader......? this has changed
who here ran rifles without brakes...........? this has changed
and amongst other advances, bullet technology has changed also, thus the savvy can roll their own to a degree of perfection previously not attained from off the shelf product in a quick and efficient manner.
perfect ammo is final, and marksmanship skills are perishable....this will never change
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There is no perfect ammo.
I see lots of shooters every year. The ones who could benefit from a Prometheus rather than more training and practice are maybe 1 out of 200.
There is no perfect ammo.
I see lots of shooters every year. The ones who could benefit from a Prometheus rather than more training and practice are maybe 1 out of 200.
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What's this lease everyone talks about? Are you serious or does Brand really have a payment plan?
What's this lease everyone talks about? Are you serious or does Brand really have a payment plan?
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Prometheus 2 units are leased from Brand Cole. Given the length of the lease, the device is going to be with the person paying the price possibly longer than he/she may live. The reason for leasing the unit is to prevent people from commercially reloading with the unit. The commercial reloader could use the unit to create precise, consistent ammo efficiently and Brand does not want that happening. It is truely that remarkable of a device.
Prometheus 2 units are leased from Brand Cole. Given the length of the lease, the device is going to be with the person paying the price possibly longer than he/she may live. The reason for leasing the unit is to prevent people from commercially reloading with the unit. The commercial reloader could use the unit to create precise, consistent ammo efficiently and Brand does not want that happening. It is truely that remarkable of a device.
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I would too ... if it is 50% faster than the charge master that is all i care about because I dont shoot 1/3 of a kernal accurate...
but it isnt 10/mo ... that would be 280 mo of payments with no interest
contact info ... or im calling unicorn !
I would too ... if it is 50% faster than the charge master that is all i care about because I dont shoot 1/3 of a kernal accurate...
but it isnt 10/mo ... that would be 280 mo of payments with no interest
contact info ... or im calling unicorn !
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
</div></div>
What ever it takes to make better ammo...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
</div></div>
What ever it takes to make better ammo...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no perfect ammo.
I see lots of shooters every year. The ones who could benefit from a Prometheus rather than more training and practice are maybe 1 out of 200.
</div></div>
just because you have never shot perfect ammo do not mean there is none.....
as the barrel wears, the stuff that gets supplied to you will not shoot the same,,,,now will it ?
i'm not taking away the need for some glass time with the gun masters of this world, but having a precision reloading device that makes perfect ammo for your stick is eliminating one very important variable.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no perfect ammo.
I see lots of shooters every year. The ones who could benefit from a Prometheus rather than more training and practice are maybe 1 out of 200.
</div></div>
just because you have never shot perfect ammo do not mean there is none.....
as the barrel wears, the stuff that gets supplied to you will not shoot the same,,,,now will it ?
i'm not taking away the need for some glass time with the gun masters of this world, but having a precision reloading device that makes perfect ammo for your stick is eliminating one very important variable.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'm not taking away the need for some glass time with the gun masters of this world, but having a precision reloading device that makes perfect ammo for your stick is eliminating one very important variable.
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ding,ding,ding...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'm not taking away the need for some glass time with the gun masters of this world, but having a precision reloading device that makes perfect ammo for your stick is eliminating one very important variable.
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ding,ding,ding...
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I just picked up a P1, should be here this weekend. Jim
How many of you own/use one?????
I just picked up a P1, should be here this weekend. Jim
How many of you own/use one?????
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no perfect ammo.
I see lots of shooters every year. The ones who could benefit from a Prometheus rather than more training and practice are maybe 1 out of 200.
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just because you have never shot perfect ammo do not mean there is none.....
as the barrel wears, the stuff that gets supplied to you will not shoot the same,,,,now will it ?
i'm not taking away the need for some glass time with the gun masters of this world, but having a precision reloading device that makes perfect ammo for your stick is eliminating one very important variable.
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I won't claim to be an expert on the matter at hand, but I will say one thing.
There is no such thing as perfect anything, even ammo. There may be ammo which is better than all other ammo on the planet, and this dispenser may be able to produce said superior to all other ammo, but I can guarantee you that it isn't perfect.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no perfect ammo.
I see lots of shooters every year. The ones who could benefit from a Prometheus rather than more training and practice are maybe 1 out of 200.
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just because you have never shot perfect ammo do not mean there is none.....
as the barrel wears, the stuff that gets supplied to you will not shoot the same,,,,now will it ?
i'm not taking away the need for some glass time with the gun masters of this world, but having a precision reloading device that makes perfect ammo for your stick is eliminating one very important variable.
</div></div>
I won't claim to be an expert on the matter at hand, but I will say one thing.
There is no such thing as perfect anything, even ammo. There may be ammo which is better than all other ammo on the planet, and this dispenser may be able to produce said superior to all other ammo, but I can guarantee you that it isn't perfect.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 737SHARK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish I had one!!! </div></div>
You could have if you really wanted one!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 737SHARK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish I had one!!! </div></div>
You could have if you really wanted one!
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...that's because you're not an expert....you said it yourself...many champions with many trophy's are sitting back right now snickering as they dust off the loot.
...that's because you're not an expert....you said it yourself...many champions with many trophy's are sitting back right now snickering as they dust off the loot.
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As for the lease, its really no big deal. Its a 25 year lease. From what I understand it is to get around some red tape.
Heres my baby
As for the lease, its really no big deal. Its a 25 year lease. From what I understand it is to get around some red tape.
Heres my baby
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RQI</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
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What ever it takes to make better ammo...
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LMAO! This is some funny shit!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RQI</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I've never used a dildo, but I don't need to in order to know that I don't want one.
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What ever it takes to make better ammo...
LMAO! This is some funny shit!!!
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I'll say away from the sex toy's .
These are as sex'y they come.
Sorry the gin 1 is not for sale.
I'll say away from the sex toy's .
These are as sex'y they come.
Sorry the gin 1 is not for sale.
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I hope Bolt put me on the list 8 months ago...
For those of us who reload 5-6 calibers (and with family's), everything that saves time is money.
I hope Bolt put me on the list 8 months ago...
For those of us who reload 5-6 calibers (and with family's), everything that saves time is money.
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Here is my jewel! I dig the signage on the newest versions.
Here is my jewel! I dig the signage on the newest versions.
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