Proof SS vs craddock 6.5 creedmoor

[MontanaMan]

140 American Gunner, 140 ELD match and 147 ELD Match all shot .5 MOA

140 American Gunner .509
140 ELD Match .562
147 ELD Match .502

Total of 18rds fired today in 36° high wind, couldn't even feel my fingers. The Proof Research carbon fiber Barrel is showing great promise and I have no doubt with Handloads it'll be a consistent Sub .5 MOA shooter.

The rifle performed perfectly and smooth as butter, no failures at all and the recoil is practically non-existent. I'll start working on handloads soon as possible.

Normally I would have done several 5rd groups but box ammo is crazy stupid expensive now so I'll start on handloads this week.

Nice rifle as usual.

That looks like a Vortex Razor on it...............can you comment about your experience with that model & any other Vortex models that you may like enough to use.

I've shied away from them for the most part, mostly using NF on my more precision builds.

Also used some barrels from Craddock with Rock Creek blanks...............never been disappointed & Paul is a pleasure to deal with; he even remembered me from his days at WOA, which was very surprising.

Your assessment on the Proof barrel is very convincing & compelling, just not sure I can really justify the extra performance & $$$ as I'm not sure I can really shoot the difference. The condition of the gas port is telling too, about the overall quality & attention to detail.

Thanks for posting such a detailed review.

MM

 

[bigjake83]

Nice rifle as usual.

That looks like a Vortex Razor on it...............can you comment about your experience with that model & any other Vortex models that you may like enough to use.

I've shied away from them for the most part, mostly using NF on my more precision builds.

Also used some barrels from Craddock with Rock Creek blanks...............never been disappointed & Paul is a pleasure to deal with; he even remembered me from his days at WOA, which was very surprising.

Your assessment on the Proof barrel is very convincing & compelling, just not sure I can really justify the extra performance & $$$ as I'm not sure I can really shoot the difference. The condition of the gas port is telling too, about the overall quality & attention to detail.

Thanks for posting such a detailed review.

MM

The Razor HD line of scopes have been pretty good to me, either people love them or hate them. Vortex is the only company I know of that when something does goes wrong they send out a new replacement before you even get off the phone with their CS...

If you want a honest to God quality scope that is damn near indestructible with 100% reliability and pretty damn good glass, The Bushnell XRS3 Or DMR3 is what you seek.

 

[B Man]

The 24" PRCF with the load of 41.0grs of H4350 is right there at the edge of showing pressure signs.

And the 22" Bartlein with 40.4grd is a relatively light load, I did shoot 41.0grs in it but it didn't group as well as 40.4 so I didn't chronograph it but I'd be willing to bet it would be the same as the 24" PFCF if not faster, the PRCF barrel is the slowest 6.5CM barrel I've ever had.

So to answer your question, no there is no real advantage I can see at this point to run the 24". However I just ordered a 24" Bartlein 6.5CM to test that very question, apples to apples using Bartlein blanks from Paul at Compass lake instead of comparing PRCF to Bartlein's.

Here are the groups from my SP10 with the 22" Bartlein, the two groups are pretty close so I'll more than likely run it again and check the data to make sure.
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The 40.4 load in my 18" Bartlein in the OBR was a clear winner and I don't see any reason to test any further.
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Remind me in a month to update my findings, the new 24" Bartlein will be in my brand new JP LRI-20, I have exceptionally high hopes for this build.

I also have a annealing machine on order so I'm hoping with staying on top of that since I'm exclusively running Lapua SP Brass now will also help keep everything more consistent nech tension in the reloading department.

Thank you. I am still struggling with taking the leap to 6.5 creed from my 308 just for the fact of components I have on hand. I have everything but barrel for my build and just dwelling on this. As always, I appreciate you taking the time to share honest knowledge and experience

 

[bigjake83]

Thank you. I am still struggling with taking the leap to 6.5 creed from my 308 just for the fact of components I have on hand. I have everything but barrel for my build and just dwelling on this. As always, I appreciate you taking the time to share honest knowledge and experience

If you're ready to switch to 6.5 Creed I've got a inside line to a brand new CLE Bartlein at a really good price. 22" M110/ Contour/.875 gas block 1-8 twist /+2 gas/ 5/8 x24 threads.

 

[TheOE800]

If you're ready to switch to 6.5 Creed I've got a inside line to a brand new CLE Bartlein at a really good price. 22" M110/ Contour/.875 gas block 1-8 twist /+2 gas/ 5/8 x24 threads.

Deets

 

[bigjake83]

Deets

Well she has zero gag reflexes...lol

Oh wait you mean the barrel...

 

[TheOE800]

Well she has zero gag reflexes...lol

Oh wait you mean the barrel...

I mean I’ll take deets on that too?

 

[Billiam1211]

Went to my local PRS Train-Up this weekend and brought the AR10 for fun. I’m sold on Proof for gas gun barrels. This was my first 5 shots of the day, rushed and in a hurry to make the safety brief. For $500 I’m probably just going to stick with Proof barrels on semi autos… that said - I live in a commie state and can’t even order parts online anymore so I might have to resort to custom barrels after I shoot this one out

 

[ToKeepAndBear]

Went to my local PRS Train-Up this weekend and brought the AR10 for fun. I’m sold on Proof for gas gun barrels. This was my first 5 shots of the day, rushed and in a hurry to make the safety brief. For $500 I’m probably just going to stick with Proof barrels on semi autos… that said - I live in a commie state and can’t even order parts online anymore so I might have to resort to custom barrels after I shoot this one out

Why can’t you order “parts” online? That is ridiculous! I won’t even drive through or travel to Illinois. I’m not giving any money or sales tax to that state.

I’m not sure if I’ll even allow myself to fly over that state!

 

[Billiam1211]

Why can’t you order “parts” online? That is ridiculous! I won’t even drive through or travel to Illinois. I’m not giving any money or sales tax to that state.

I’m not sure if I’ll even allow myself to fly over that state!

IL just recently passed an assault weapons ban and it includes “assault weapon parts and parts kits” so most online retailers won’t ship much to IL at the moment. It’s currently being appealed and will likely be overturned - but for the foreseeable future IL is a shit show.