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I just got the 2 day about a month ago. I really like it. I'm able to get all of my stuff in it and have a bit of room left over. I pack my 15x binos, rear bag, WH Comanche, ammo binder, mags, and misc stuff. My tripod goes on the outside in the water bottle pouch and is held by the synching cross strap.The Mystery Ranch 2 Day Assault Pack was suggested to me as about the right size although I did see the EGG and that looked interesting. Last weekends SOTY 2 Day Steel\LR match my current bag was too small and no easy way to attach a tripod.
Anyone have experience with the MR 2 day?
@ Driver any PIX of your set up with gear attached?
Thanks!
Sure thing man I’ll do it when I get home.@ Killer134 - if you have a pic with your bag loaded please post it.
Thanks!
I can send one latter. There are a bunch of pictures in various threads however. I do also use a KUIU (my hunting pack) if the hikes are and harder than our hilly courseThe Mystery Ranch 2 Day Assault Pack was suggested to me as about the right size although I did see the EGG and that looked interesting. Last weekends SOTY 2 Day Steel\LR match my current bag was too small and no easy way to attach a tripod.
Anyone have experience with the MR 2 day?
@ Driver any PIX of your set up with gear attached?
Thanks!
The Mystery Ranch 2 Day Assault Pack was suggested to me as about the right size although I did see the EGG and that looked interesting. Last weekends SOTY 2 Day Steel\LR match my current bag was too small and no easy way to attach a tripod.
Anyone have experience with the MR 2 day?
@ Driver any PIX of your set up with gear attached?
Thanks!
FYI I have way more gear inside than the images of the Mystery ranch.. Full rain gear, med kit, tools, cleaning rod & kit (has saved a lot of peoples matches), mags, timer, gammer plate, batteries, kydex mag holder, just a huge list sometimes including a pistol. I do not think I have one thing in there that has not be used many times except the quikclot (thank God, although I have seen some scary shit) and similar level of items.Thanks - the two bags seem comparable.
FYI I have way more gear inside than the images of the Mystery ranch.. Full rain gear, med kit, tools, cleaning rod & kit (has saved a lot of peoples matches), mags, timer, gammer plate, batteries, kydex mag holder, just a huge list sometimes including a pistol. I do not think I have one thing in there that has not be used many times except the quikclot (thank God, although I have seen some scary shit) and similar level of items.
@Diver160651 How is that tripod hooked to the pack? Can you take some pics of that?
@FishDr@Diver160651 How is that tripod hooked to the pack? Can you take some pics of that?
I ran this setup for that exact match and liked it.
Who was your teammate? Did you guys figure out Stage 4 (The trees) needed a terrain map or at least was beter if you guys took the time to make one because the targets were to be shot out of order?
When I said "It'll never get the love of the high dollar packs, but I've had great luck with Kelty packs. " I was not saying that I don't get why more expensive packs exist or judging anyone for paying more for one. As far as paying for gear goes, in my opinion I have no budget restraints on packs or quality boots. My body type is the size where I can walk into most stores and the biggest clothes are too small, and when I walk into the fat guy stores I get looked at like an ant and wonder why I'm in there. All I was getting at was that for whatever reason Keltys are what seem to fit me the best.
For me 2019 has all been spent preparing for the 2020 mammoth. I've bought and returned an eberlsestock gunslinger when I saw how much gear it's carry and how heavy it was, sold a gunrunner I'd had for a couple years but the scabbard couldn't fit my competition rifle or hold enough gear, bought and sold an osprey aether 70L, and bought a mystery ranch selway 60L that I may end up selling but haven't made up my mind yet. I'm not saying any of that to brag and honestly I feel a little dumb confessing all that. All those packs I've played with trying to mess with loading them out and see how they'd work after several miles with a full loadout under time with the exception or the eberlestock gunslinger II.
In July I shot my first PRS match which was a guardian in Michigan and I get what you're saying. I carried all my gear for the day in a Propper bail out bag. That match for me was to get spun up on the match games for the mammoth.
I've got no issue with spending hard earned money on quality gear and I think it should be commended. For me, I just got lucky that the cheaper stuff fits me better. My redwing is the older style that only weighs just over 3 pounds. I saw they remade that pack and as much as I like the improved side water bottle pouches I don't get where else they added all that extra weight. The current lineup of kelty redwings would not appeal to me at all based on the weight alone.
Your taking matches or hunting? They are completely different.
The Kelty Redwing is listed as over 4lbs or the t version and at almost 4 for the non, not 3lbs. BTW, the Dragon Egg is about $80 on Ebay and only 20-25L
50L and up packs are big and usually mean to carry more weight. 50L packs with no frame like the Kelty, might be ok for the casual sleep over, but are not in the class of the high $ pack for comfort and stability under load while still weighing almost nothing.
Why the love for high $$ packs that you don’t get?
Here are a couple of load outs-on three different days. High dollar frame packs like Kifaru, KUIU's carbon frame (load shelf) and Mystery Ranch (with their load shelf), are completely different that your $60 50L Kelty and designed to carry more out than we brought in with relative comfort.
2 Elk Qtrs- 1500’ of descending out of the snow.. easily over 120lbs (BTW I've carried CA sized pigs all the meat, in one trip with my KUIU)
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1 quarter- last trip on this one
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Resting almost back last day- packing 1 quarter, backstaps all the extras - dragging 1 qtr in the snow. My brother-in-law holding my pack wishing he had my high $ pack.. his shoulders were trashed on his.
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I agree with you on the Elber. Nobody I know is a fan of the Elbers once they either hunt and need to pack an animal and then are exposed with someone in comfort carrying the same load super stable and on their hips with another better pack
Your match pack might come on and of 8-14 times a day, truth be told, most PRS matches halve almost no real walking. The ones that do, it is minimal. Many of the style matches people don’t need to bring tools, cleaning rods, first aid etc; there cars are in walking distance to the stage.
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^ Typical PRS style match. At this match and matches like this, I just grab the pack by the carry handle, never even put it on from the car or between stages. This is were the tiny packs and the external gear is especially nice.. Although, the tool kit, rain gear etc can just be pulled out and left in the car.
Even many for field matches like ours, isn’t really that rough, that I need a big comfortable hip pack. I need ease-of-use and speed so that I have more time to glass or otherwise get my head together.
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^ typical field Style- but really we walk maybe only 2 miles round trip stopping and shooting, waiting 8 or 9 times. Picture is of a shooter who's team took 3rd at the UKD Team Challenge at Avenal last month.. Good shooting by all
All of these matches are fine with 20-25L and the external system..
For pure packing and pack fly fishing I run a expensive Zpack Arca Zip. These are the other end of the high $ spectrum all about weight. They are the super light packs 60l that way in around 23oz.![]()
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Typical backpacking packs, like the super popular Osprey 60L are comfortable, relatively light, but mine comes in at just about 4.5LBS.. (about the same as my hunting pack that has the carbon frame)
Packs from Zpacks snd Hyperlite allow you to move fast over long periods. These have changed the way we backpack light is fast. Although not as robust or able to carry as much weight as a light hi tech hunting pack, they are rain proof and comfortable backpacking with a non-animal load-out. At least 1 team a this year Mammoth Sniper is going to be running the Hyperlites.
The point I’m trying to make, is the best packs are very specific. Until this point, we were talking about a typical PRS/NRL match pack were you running multiple stages and have lots of gear that you need access to over and over and the pack spends most of its time sitting in the staging areas or in the car on the way to the match.
Just my 2 cents - hopes this helps put it into prospective and why some of us spend $$ on the best gear for the task.
Ya, I’d say it is the ideal “PRS” bag; but a bit on the smaller side for a long field match.This is a great post! Laying out the different needs for different applications of a pack.
I’m looking for a new pack myself (just don’t like the layout of the Eberlestock Gunslinger gen1). I’d like to be able to use it for field matches as well as PRS style matches. I was looking at the Dragon Egg because I love the level of organization it has (ie. pockets) but:
1) I’m starting to think it’s to small, &
2) it isn’t conducive to the gunbearer (which is how I’d like to replace the Eberlestock scabbard).
Any thoughts on that?
Has anyone tried strapping a folding stock/chassis bolt gun in one of the mystery ranch side pockets? I'm trying to figure out if you could fit both a rifle on one side and tripod on the other. I'm looking at the 2 and 3 day assault packs.
You do not see them used much at all.That was my next question:
Why don’t we see the gun bearer used at the Mammoth? (Not that I’ve been there, but I’ve seen lots of photos).
I can't say I've been to a lot of PRS matches. I've only been to one, but something that shocked me was that a lot of guys didn't have a sling on their rifle or think to bring one. There were several stages where a sling made all the difference for me and I was very happy to have had one. Moving from stage to stage, a sling can also be used as a ......... sling.
@Diver160651 I'd like to try a field type match, but I don't have a shooting partner. Have you thought about doing one for individuals if that's even possible?
Sorry for digging up an old thread, I've been looking for the "ideal" PRS/field shooting bag for a while know and have stumbled across many of your posts and pictures of the DA Dragon Egg and it does look to be the near perfect bag.Ya, I’d say it is the ideal “PRS” bag; but a bit on the smaller side for a long field match.
First I have to admit I am not against having multiple bags. I use the egg for PRS style and matches like ours where it's spread out up and down draws but the entire day <2 miles. It holds enough ammo and snacks. For two days, we just have to remember that we rifle ammo, etc for day two. Even in a lot of field style matches the distance for the day is not often that much. That said, there are some.Sorry for digging up an old thread, I've been looking for the "ideal" PRS/field shooting bag for a while know and have stumbled across many of your posts and pictures of the DA Dragon Egg and it does look to be the near perfect bag.
I see DA now do an enlarged version of the Dragon Egg taking it from 25L to 30L, and adds a proper hip belt (like on the Ghost).
Do you think the extra 5L of space and proper hip belt would be worth it for longer field matches?
It looks like you fit all your gear easily into the 25L pack, my experiece also mirrors this (25L being more that big enough).
Do you think a proper hip belt would be a worth addition to the Dragon Egg pack, or do you not find yourself hauling a heavy load too often?