The local range I shoot F-Class at does not differentiate between "Open" and F/TR. During registration I advised one of the score keepers I was shooting F/TR with a .308 but noticed I (and other F/TR shooters)were lumped together during scoring with competitors shooting 6BR's and other calibers I've never heard of. When submitting our scores to the NRA will this affect the classification I obtain (i.e. HM, MA, EX, etc.)? I am currently unclassified.
F T/R Competition Q Regarding F-Class Classification
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Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
Alot of times when there are not enough shooters to break out classes, everyone gets lumped together. Kinda sucks for the F-T/R guys. But the scores or class of the other shooters will not affect your classification.
When the scores are submitted, they <span style="font-weight: bold">should</span> note that you are F-T/R.
Alot of times when there are not enough shooters to break out classes, everyone gets lumped together. Kinda sucks for the F-T/R guys. But the scores or class of the other shooters will not affect your classification.
When the scores are submitted, they <span style="font-weight: bold">should</span> note that you are F-T/R.
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
No. Your classification is based on the scores they you shoot. Not how you fare against other Shooters. Incidentally F-open and F-TR classifications are the same. Very hard to get a master or high master LR classification shooting TR
No. Your classification is based on the scores they you shoot. Not how you fare against other Shooters. Incidentally F-open and F-TR classifications are the same. Very hard to get a master or high master LR classification shooting TR
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
Lotsa guys got HM class. on old targets.... it`s alot tuffer now with targets 1/2 the size....
Lotsa guys got HM class. on old targets.... it`s alot tuffer now with targets 1/2 the size....
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barrel Nut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No. Your classification is based on the scores they you shoot. Not how you fare against other Shooters. <span style="color: #FFFF33">Incidentally F-open and F-TR classifications are the same.</span> Very hard to get a master or high master LR classification shooting TR
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Thanks...this answers my question. So even if the score keepers forget to notate my F/TR status it will not matter being that both Open and F/TR have the same points classsification.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Barrel Nut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No. Your classification is based on the scores they you shoot. Not how you fare against other Shooters. <span style="color: #FFFF33">Incidentally F-open and F-TR classifications are the same.</span> Very hard to get a master or high master LR classification shooting TR
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Thanks...this answers my question. So even if the score keepers forget to notate my F/TR status it will not matter being that both Open and F/TR have the same points classsification.
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
The scores for Mid-Range classifcation are high for everyone, F Open, F-TR and HP Prone. In LR and regular HP your average has to be between 94-96.99 to make Master, and 97 and above to make High Master. In Mid-Range, to make Master you have to have an average of 97-98.49 and 98.5 and above to make High Master.
The scores for Mid-Range classifcation are high for everyone, F Open, F-TR and HP Prone. In LR and regular HP your average has to be between 94-96.99 to make Master, and 97 and above to make High Master. In Mid-Range, to make Master you have to have an average of 97-98.49 and 98.5 and above to make High Master.
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
For F-Class the classes are:
High Master . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . Below 91.50
For F-Class the classes are:
High Master . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . Below 91.50
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
Yup, no seperate Open or TR categories, just F-Class.
Found out I was short .30 of Master with my last scores.
Damn that guy who makes my ammo.
Oh, wait. That's me....
Yup, no seperate Open or TR categories, just F-Class.
Found out I was short .30 of Master with my last scores.
Damn that guy who makes my ammo.
Oh, wait. That's me....
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DGosnell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For F-Class the classes are:
High Master . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . Below 91.50</div></div>
One BIG caveat, those percentages apply ONLY to mid range (300 - 600 yds) prone (both F class and sling/irons/optics). The percentages for each classification for Long Range (800 - 1000 yds) are lower.
I think the NRA has struck the right balance of target dimensions and percentages for classification for the mid range prone disciplines.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DGosnell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For F-Class the classes are:
High Master . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . Below 91.50</div></div>
One BIG caveat, those percentages apply ONLY to mid range (300 - 600 yds) prone (both F class and sling/irons/optics). The percentages for each classification for Long Range (800 - 1000 yds) are lower.
I think the NRA has struck the right balance of target dimensions and percentages for classification for the mid range prone disciplines.
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
I don't think there are different numbers for long or mid range in F-Class.
http://www.nrahq.org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-w22.pdf
19.15 Individual F-Class Averages - Competitors classified or reclassified on the basis of scores fired under
the conditions specified in Rule 19.4 reduced to 10 shot averages, those averages leading to classifications as
shown in Table III below:
Table III
Individual F-Class
High Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Below 91.50
I don't think there are different numbers for long or mid range in F-Class.
http://www.nrahq.org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-w22.pdf
19.15 Individual F-Class Averages - Competitors classified or reclassified on the basis of scores fired under
the conditions specified in Rule 19.4 reduced to 10 shot averages, those averages leading to classifications as
shown in Table III below:
Table III
Individual F-Class
High Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Below 91.50
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
The NRA does not use different classification percentages for F-TR and F-Open, just like it does not use different classifications for Service Rifle and Match Rifle in the sling-and-coat world.
Also, very few clubs at local matches will differentiate between SR and MR or F-Open and F-TR due to the number of participants.
If you read the rulebook, it takes 5 shooters to make a "class", but again "class" does not differentiate between SR and MR or F-TR and F-Open. Up to those running the match to decide on how they do awards.
Be a stud and get your F-Class HM card shooting a 308 at 800-1K matches only.
The NRA does not use different classification percentages for F-TR and F-Open, just like it does not use different classifications for Service Rifle and Match Rifle in the sling-and-coat world.
Also, very few clubs at local matches will differentiate between SR and MR or F-Open and F-TR due to the number of participants.
If you read the rulebook, it takes 5 shooters to make a "class", but again "class" does not differentiate between SR and MR or F-TR and F-Open. Up to those running the match to decide on how they do awards.
Be a stud and get your F-Class HM card shooting a 308 at 800-1K matches only.
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DGosnell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think there are different numbers for long or mid range in F-Class.
http://www.nrahq.org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-w22.pdf
19.15 Individual F-Class Averages - Competitors classified or reclassified on the basis of scores fired under
the conditions specified in Rule 19.4 reduced to 10 shot averages, those averages leading to classifications as
shown in Table III below:
Table III
Individual F-Class
High Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Below 91.50</div></div>
I stand corrected.
What I said applies only to sling shooters. Ref NRA Highpower Rule 19.4, 19.5, and 19.15.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DGosnell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think there are different numbers for long or mid range in F-Class.
http://www.nrahq.org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-w22.pdf
19.15 Individual F-Class Averages - Competitors classified or reclassified on the basis of scores fired under
the conditions specified in Rule 19.4 reduced to 10 shot averages, those averages leading to classifications as
shown in Table III below:
Table III
Individual F-Class
High Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 98.00 and above
Master . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 96.50 to 97.99
Expert . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Below 91.50</div></div>
I stand corrected.
What I said applies only to sling shooters. Ref NRA Highpower Rule 19.4, 19.5, and 19.15.
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The NRA does not use different classification percentages for F-TR and F-Open, just like it does not use different classifications for Service Rifle and Match Rifle in the sling-and-coat world.
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Except that service rifle and match rifle shoot the same way (standing, sitting, prone) and either .223 or .308.
F-TR can only shoot .223 or .308 with a bipod in front. F-Open can shoot just about any caliber up to .30. (I believe) with a front rest I can only describe as a cappuccino machine. It would be nice if they lowered the qualification percentages for the TR guys, but I'm not holding my breathe.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The NRA does not use different classification percentages for F-TR and F-Open, just like it does not use different classifications for Service Rifle and Match Rifle in the sling-and-coat world.
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Except that service rifle and match rifle shoot the same way (standing, sitting, prone) and either .223 or .308.
F-TR can only shoot .223 or .308 with a bipod in front. F-Open can shoot just about any caliber up to .30. (I believe) with a front rest I can only describe as a cappuccino machine. It would be nice if they lowered the qualification percentages for the TR guys, but I'm not holding my breathe.
Re: Q Regarding F-Class Classification
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RStewart</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The NRA does not use different classification percentages for F-TR and F-Open, just like it does not use different classifications for Service Rifle and Match Rifle in the sling-and-coat world.
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Except that service rifle and match rifle shoot the same way (standing, sitting, prone) and either .223 or .308. </div></div>
Not quite.
Service rifle shooters are limited to 5.56x45, 7.62x51, or .30-06. The US Rifle, M1 is still an approved service rifle.
Match rifle shooters can shoot almost anything they want.
Match and service rifle shooters shoot the exact same course of fire as F class shooters when competing in mid range and long range prone matches. Only the target and the classification percentages change.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RStewart</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _9H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The NRA does not use different classification percentages for F-TR and F-Open, just like it does not use different classifications for Service Rifle and Match Rifle in the sling-and-coat world.
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Except that service rifle and match rifle shoot the same way (standing, sitting, prone) and either .223 or .308. </div></div>
Not quite.
Service rifle shooters are limited to 5.56x45, 7.62x51, or .30-06. The US Rifle, M1 is still an approved service rifle.
Match rifle shooters can shoot almost anything they want.
Match and service rifle shooters shoot the exact same course of fire as F class shooters when competing in mid range and long range prone matches. Only the target and the classification percentages change.
