Suppressors Quick detach vs thread on suppressors...

[RollingThunder51]

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On the brake, the internal preliminary gas redirects remains, two massive hot spots that will add dwell prior to the gas getting the primary baffle and diffuser (dependent on design). Best thing to do is can up and report back.

As to the Ti, only one that I am aware of uses solids, I honestly do not know how many others use U.S. tube, but I would guess few if any. As you already said, its all about the grade and what the shop does with it. When the decision was made to make the envelope from solids, the additional cost of buying the best grade was minimal by comparison. Not everybody needs a Ti can like these, but just wanted to be sure that the issue of the appropriateness of a Ti FA can was better understood.

 

[blksno]

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i went with a QD can for one major selling point. I take it off every time i case my rifle. The over all length of the weapon is 49" already and with an added 8" of can, custom rifle cases were my only options if i decided to leave it attached.

If i didn't have that issue, I may have gone with a thread on

 

[BookHound]

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Leaving a thread-mount suppressor on a rifle can be a bad idea. As the weapon cools condensation forms. This can lead to rust over time.

 

[Lowlight]

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I take my threaded cans off before leaving the range in most cases, you dont' need a Quick Attach to do this, with the TAB Cover on them, you just spin them off, same as with the QA.

I actually have to wait for the QA versions to cool more so before my single point cans. The QA models require you to hold the locks or push the locks out of the way and, they get hot too... so the Single Point actually work better for removing the can.

 

[KYS]

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One selling point to me for QD vs Thread on was the fact that you run a higher risk of boogering up your threads on a thread on setup then you do a QD. Most QD mounts are very heavy duty and can take some serious abuse. On the other hand the threading on your barrel can take one direct shot and you are screwed. I do own both variants of suppressors though and have had no trouble yet. I do not always take my cans off my rifles, I do however take them off when I clean my rifles. A quick bore snake down the barrel and a bronze brush to the inside of the can with some EezOx oil/preservative. I have not seen rust on any of my gun, I also run a very large dehumidifier in the gun room though.

 

[Zak Smith]

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Thanks for choosing the 30P-1. It's a great can - and the one that we ("team Thunderbeast") compete with in long-range matches.

With regard to the AI "Tactical" brake- it is not a great way to mount a suppressor. The sealing surface is supposed to be the shoulder rear of the ports and the flat sleeve portion. However, it leaves a lot to be desired and there's no reason to use the brake as opposed to just screwed the can on the M18x1.5 muzzle threads. I can understand wanting to use a muzzle-device attachment when that device requires torquing, but the AI brakes just cinch down with an allen screw for retention.

With regard to Ti, as Lowlight said, Ti has a lot of advantages for a precision rifle suppressor, though obviously you need to match the materials to the application. We have F/A cans made of stainless and inconel because those are the right meterials for extreme high temperature f/a applications. When our cans are used in their intended applications, they are covered by our limited warranty and we fully stand behind them in that regard.

sincerely,
Zak

 

[Zak Smith]

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With regard to boogering up threads, the majority of muzzle threads are coarse enough that outside of doing something really dumb the first time you screw the can on, or smashing the outside of the muzzle on rocks, you are unlikely to damage the threads. A lot of guys are worried about their muzzle threads but the reality is that they are not super fragile.

 

[jlaw973]

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Good reading. This thread answered some questions I had without asking. Somehow missed this thread earlier. I know more now what I want when the time comes to get my suppressor.

 

[bm11]

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Thanks again for all the great info guys, this thread really helped me a lot!

 

[j-huskey]

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Yankee Hill Phantom, try it, you may like it.

 

[oubeta]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One selling point to me for QD vs Thread on was the fact that you run a higher risk of boogering up your threads on a thread on setup then you do a QD. Most QD mounts are very heavy duty and can take some serious abuse. On the other hand the threading on your barrel can take one direct shot and you are screwed. I do own both variants of suppressors though and have had no trouble yet. I do not always take my cans off my rifles, I do however take them off when I clean my rifles. A quick bore snake down the barrel and a bronze brush to the inside of the can with some EezOx oil/preservative. I have not seen rust on any of my gun, I also run a very large dehumidifier in the gun room though. </div></div>

I have seen a guy screw his threads up with cold numb hands trying to screw his can on. QD's solve this problem. I spoke with Mike at Skunkworks and he said on the AAC cans accuracy wise there is on difference between the two