R700 Footprints, why so many?

[PinesAndProjectiles]

When it comes to triggers, a large majority of them are made to fit an action with a 700 footprint.

Chassis's seem to be the same way.

But with stocks, especially the Foundations, they make many different inlets.

For example, the Zermatt is different than a Defiance, which is different than a Curtis, etc. etc.

Why so many options if they are all based on the 700?

Why can a chassis for a 700 fit so many different actions?

Wouldn't they be similar?

 

[Dthomas3523]

When it comes to triggers, a large majority of them are made to fit an action with a 700 footprint.

Chassis's seem to be the same way.

But with stocks, especially the Foundations, they make many different inlets.

For example, the Zermatt is different than a Defiance, which is different than a Curtis, etc. etc.

Why so many options if they are all based on the 700?

Why can a chassis for a 700 fit so many different actions?

Wouldn't they be similar?

“700 pattern” basically just means the general idea is close to a 700. Action screw spacing, recoil lug location, etc etc.

But that’s is. The rest can be different.

Fore example:

A curtis axiom has a round body

A lone peak Fuzion has a gusseted body.

Foundatiom is mulling their stocks fit each style exactly.

 

[Thud]

700 pattern is the GOLD Standard.

 

[308pirate]

700 pattern is the GOLD Standard.

It's the most common. It's far from the best.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

“700 pattern” basically just means the general idea is close to a 700. Action screw spacing, recoil lug location, etc etc.

But that’s is. The rest can be different.

Fore example:

A curtis axiom has a round body

A lone peak Fuzion has a gusseted body.

Foundatiom is mulling their stocks fit each style exactly.

So if I found a Foundation that was inletted for a round body 700, would it fit the Vudoo?

Is there a thread anywhere that shows or discusses the differences? Because I couldn't find anything.

 

[Olen_4504]

Your best bet is to call John-Kyle at foundation and speak to him and ask him if it’ll work.

He’s one of the nicest human beings on the planet and will surely help you out.

 

[Dthomas3523]

So if I found a Foundation that was inletted for a round body 700, would it fit the Vudoo?

Is there a thread anywhere that shows or discusses the differences? Because I couldn't find anything.

Likely, but it may not be perfect/optimal.

 

[JC0352]

So if I found a Foundation that was inletted for a round body 700, would it fit the Vudoo?

Is there a thread anywhere that shows or discusses the differences? Because I couldn't find anything.

The inlet for the ejection port won’t match. I would think the bolt handle should fit.

 

[NWnewguy]

I have tried that set up and it fits just fine. The ejection port is larger than a Vudoo, but everything else is perfect.

 

[Friday]

It's the most common. It's far from the best.

For your every day rifle patterns what would you feel is a better action than a rem 700 pattern? They are literally like legos you can buy anything for them!

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

The inlet for the ejection port won’t match. I would think the bolt handle should fit.

I'm guessing this is the part I overlooked. It makes the most sense anyways.

 

[JC0352]

Kinda like this. You can see the bolt handle inlet has more sweep than is needed, too.

 

[Wheres-Waldo]

As stated earlier, the footprint is the action body diameter (at least the bottom 1/2), action screw location, lug location, mag well location.

Inlets can be specific to an action based on features that interrupt the “show line” or the top seam of the stock/action when assembled. Items like bolt stops, ejection ports, bolt handle notches/angles/depth, barrel nuts, etc...

As far as what will fit what....
You have an impact 737, will it fit in an axiom inlet? Yes, it will, but it won’t function until you notch the stock for the bolt stop and deepen the bolt handle notch, and the ejection port seam won’t be perfect, but won’t cause any issues.

An axiom will drop right into an impact inlet, but the stock will be notched for a bolt stop that you didn’t need, and you will have a deeper bolt handle notch than is needed.

You just have to look at the action the stock is inletted for vs your action.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

Lots of good info here. Thanks to all of you.

 

[shlouf]

I wouldn't have a problem taking a dremel to the bolt handle notch, but is there a master-list somewhere of which 700 based actions are the same in terms of the bolt sweep, ejection inlet, etc.?

 

[Wheres-Waldo]

I wouldn't have a problem taking a dremel to the bolt handle notch, but is there a master-list somewhere of which 700 based actions are the same in terms of the bolt sweep, ejection inlet, etc.?

Please no dremel in the notch... get yourself some sand paper strips.

 

[shlouf]

Please no dremel in the notch... get yourself some sand paper strips.

 

[Rob01]

Kinda like this. You can see the bolt handle inlet has more sweep than is needed, too.
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Nice picture. LOL

Yeah the Vudoo should fit but as mentioned the ejection port cut might not line up but won't effect function. That is a Manners Mini Chassis set up in the pic above.

 

[308pirate]

For your every day rifle patterns what would you feel is a better action than a rem 700 pattern? They are literally like legos you can buy anything for them!

You're confusing two concepts: excellence and ubiquity.

Remington is the "footprint" of choice because Remington took a sales lead over Winchester, Savage, and everyone else in the late 60s and never gave it up. Why dd Remington took that lead, because it was cheaper than Winchester while being "good enough".

The Model 70 push feed action has, IMO, a superior action design (flat bottom with integral lug), a superior safety (that locks the firing pin without depending on sear engagement and lets you manipulate the bolt with the safety on), a superior trigger, and a superior bolt (with a handle that won't break off under any circumstances).

 

[Friday]

I do indeed like the model 70, but I’d take a 700 style action any day just for the fact I can build around it to fit every specific want I have.

 

[JC0352]

Nice picture. LOL

Yeah the Vudoo should fit but as mentioned the ejection port cut might not line up but won't effect function. That is a Manners Mini Chassis set up in the pic above.

Is that you, man? I just did a Google image search.

 

[Rob01]

Is that you, man? I just did a Google image search.

LOL yup at a match a few years ago.