Raisin' us up a good ol' crop o' young-uns

[Veer_G]

Younger and younger still. Obviously retention techniques are going to have to start involving Pokemon cards and candy bars to distract the little b******s.

Pittsburgh police: Boy, 6, went for officer's gun

 

[Krav69]

I like that "he shouldn't have grabbed the officer's gun, but the officer shouldn't have done that to my son"......

And then he tries to kick out the windows of the car after being caught in the act of stealing bicycles. Then bites the hell out of the officer.

Right.

Give him 10 years, he'll be wearing a hoody and doing house burglaries for amusement.

We haven't seen the last of him or his kind, and this is why we shouldn't surrender our rights to self-defense or our weapons.

My ass would be sooooooo bruised if I stole, fought, resisted arrest, bit, tried to break out of the cop car and showed that much disrespect......at the ripe age of 6....

 

[Slapchop]

A nice good backhand slap across the face would have brought that kid back to reality. Had the cop done what the parents SHOULD have done, people would be calling for his head on a platter. It's always the fault of the po-lece.

 

[MAGUA]

He sounds like a young Larry Davis in the making. Euthanize him now !

 

[Slapchop]

He sounds like a young Larry Davis in the making. Euthanize him now !

Larry Davis, the epitome of savage.

 

[Krav69]

Just looked up Larry Davis...

Yeah that was a sick animal. One effed up dude.

Only upside is that homie was shanked in the yard and no longer taking up valuable oxygen.

 

[Mackay Sagebrush]

6 years old and already a piece of trash hood rat, trying his best to commit homicide...

Of course it is always the police officer's fault. If he had just let the baby thug take his service weapon and murder him with it, things would be much better in regards to tolerance and diversity.

note that the mom is not taking any responsibility for her piece of crap kid's actions.

 

[EventHorizon]

There may be the off chance that the kid has genuine mental problems and can't control himself or his impulses. I know it's tempting to blame the lack of parenting and in many cases it's probably true, but this much aggression and fearlessness is pretty astonishing to say the least. The story states that the kid's on his way to getting assessed for mental conditions.

Anyway, I'll get out of the way of the 'let's beat a 6 year old without knowing the facts' group hug...

 

[Slapchop]

Anyway, I'll get out of the way of the 'let's beat a 6 year old without knowing the facts' group hug...

That is ironic coming from you (don't take it as an insult, its not). All one needs to do is listen to the "mother's" attitude to see where the kid gets it from.

 

[Phil1]

There may be the off chance that the kid has genuine mental problems and can't control himself or his impulses. I know it's tempting to blame the lack of parenting and in many cases it's probably true, but this much aggression and fearlessness is pretty astonishing to say the least. The story states that the kid's on his way to getting assessed for mental conditions.

Anyway, I'll get out of the way of the 'let's beat a 6 year old without knowing the facts' group hug...

A possibility, but the parents attitude suggest its parental conditioning.

This is always the argument as to why parents should require licenses and permits to have kids and not gun owners, for guns. But heaven forbid the reproductive rights of a woman would be restricted by the state!

 

[Veer_G]

Anyway, I'll get out of the way of the 'let's beat a 6 year old without knowing the facts' group hug...

That is ironic coming from you (don't take it as an insult, its not). All one needs to do is listen to the "mother's" attitude to see where the kid gets it from.

Nobody is picking out an individual child here, EH. Such a kid is simply a bellwether for yet another big spin in the downward spiral. Like it or not, the urban crack-baby generation, so vacant and violent, has come of age, and a new crop of absentee fathers vacationing "upstate" and thirty year old grandmothers is upon us. Whether or not the kid is the next Dillinger, let alone Larry Davis, is immaterial, because the net effect of such kids clumped together in neighborhoods and institutions is to lower the bar for normalcy and decency, to say nothing of their ability to spawn wannabes outside the 'hood. Valedictorians become the kids who don't start fights, show up for school on a regular basis, and graduate looking up at a bottom rung on the ladder that is still mockingly out of reach.

 

[Sugarbug]

I like that "he shouldn't have grabbed the officer's gun, but the officer shouldn't have done that to my son"......

And then he tries to kick out the windows of the car after being caught in the act of stealing bicycles. Then bites the hell out of the officer.

Right.

Give him 10 years, he'll be wearing a hoody and doing house burglaries for amusement.

We haven't seen the last of him or his kind, and this is why we shouldn't surrender our rights to self-defense or our weapons.

My ass would be sooooooo bruised if I stole, fought, resisted arrest, bit, tried to break out of the cop car and showed that much disrespect......at the ripe age of 6....

Yeah... "he [the cop] shouldn't have done that..."

Maybe you shouldn't have raised a complete piece of shit for a son.

 

[ABader]

What happened to the days where your parents would let that cop smack the crap out of you then when you got back in the house your parents did the same. Absolutely no respect for authority anymore. Since when are the adults the kids "friend" and not a "parent".

 

[Krav69]

When I was a kid, my old man said that if I got arrested, that I should stay in jail and not come home.

Why?

'Cause he was gonna kick my ass up and down, a million times worse than the police.

Clearly the 6 year old kid doesn't have that fear. True, he does need to be mentally evaluated for his own good. I really don't know any 6 year olds who would even consider such an act against a police officer or anyone else.

Scary world gents. Read about Larry Davis too. I'm not sure what scares me most about Larry Davis; that he was a sick thug, or that he has thousand of supporters.

Frightening...

 

[EventHorizon]

When I was a kid, my old man said that if I got arrested, that I should stay in jail and not come home.

Why?

'Cause he was gonna kick my ass up and down, a million times worse than the police.

Clearly the 6 year old kid doesn't have that fear. True, he does need to be mentally evaluated for his own good. I really don't know any 6 year olds who would even consider such an act against a police officer or anyone else.

Scary world gents. Read about Larry Davis too. I'm not sure what scares me most about Larry Davis; that he was a sick thug, or that he has thousand of supporters.

Frightening...

you're just scared of black people. 99% of the crap you post is in mock-ebonics and something out of Mississippi Burning. Larry Davis is dead. He's not the only criminal in American history to have killed cops or LE and while he was celebrated for fighting back against 'the man' I'm sure as a sample of the living population of black people at the time, those who heralded him were in the minority.

Slap's already pointed out to you numerous times how you seem to ignore the broader picture of things with your wholesale judgements but I guess you just don't want to let go of your fear. In case you should care, it makes you seem really silly and weak.

The people who scare me wear suits, pass laws with a sense of entitlement and lack of accountability or the ones who come crashing into people's houses with the idea that the Constitution is only a peace-time indulgence that doesn't apply to them anyway...

 

[EventHorizon]

Nobody is picking out an individual child here, EH. Such a kid is simply a bellwether for yet another big spin in the downward spiral. Like it or not, the urban crack-baby generation, so vacant and violent, has come of age, and a new crop of absentee fathers vacationing "upstate" and thirty year old grandmothers is upon us. Whether or not the kid is the next Dillinger, let alone Larry Davis, is immaterial, because the net effect of such kids clumped together in neighborhoods and institutions is to lower the bar for normalcy and decency, to say nothing of their ability to spawn wannabes outside the 'hood. Valedictorians become the kids who don't start fights, show up for school on a regular basis, and graduate looking up at a bottom rung on the ladder that is still mockingly out of reach.

One child is a bellweather of nothing. If you want to attach the whole phenomena of social plight on crack babies and such then produce the evidence. The school scenario you illustrate is misleading. Many generations of early Americans grew up with worse or no formal schooling but they had strong cultural norms that rewarded success and advancement even though they existed in overtly discriminatory times - e.g. discrimination against Jews, Irish etc. yet these people have overcome both the lack of formal education/health support and obstacles.

We don't even know the race of this kid or his social status yet we're assuming he's black and poor. He really may just be messed up for a variety of reasons. All his mother is being quoted as saying is in her opinion the officer didn't have to bruise her kid. Heck, it wouldn't be the first time a mother was blind to facts in deference to her child. It doesn't make her a ghetto whore or a bad person.

 

[wilecoyote]

_the backhand slap who don't come from your father at the right time, WILL hit you later, in a harder & sometime definitive way, from another side_
_race,nation,etc.,is unimportant : it's the life_

 

[Veer_G]

Nobody is picking out an individual child here, EH. Such a kid is simply a bellwether for yet another big spin in the downward spiral. Like it or not, the urban crack-baby generation, so vacant and violent, has come of age, and a new crop of absentee fathers vacationing "upstate" and thirty year old grandmothers is upon us. Whether or not the kid is the next Dillinger, let alone Larry Davis, is immaterial, because the net effect of such kids clumped together in neighborhoods and institutions is to lower the bar for normalcy and decency, to say nothing of their ability to spawn wannabes outside the 'hood. Valedictorians become the kids who don't start fights, show up for school on a regular basis, and graduate looking up at a bottom rung on the ladder that is still mockingly out of reach.

One child is a bellweather of nothing. If you want to attach the whole phenomena of social plight on crack babies and such then produce the evidence. The school scenario you illustrate is misleading. Many generations of early Americans grew up with worse or no formal schooling but they had strong cultural norms that rewarded success and advancement even though they existed in overtly discriminatory times - e.g. discrimination against Jews, Irish etc. yet these people have overcome both the lack of formal education/health support and obstacles.

We don't even know the race of this kid or his social status yet we're assuming he's black and poor. He really may just be messed up for a variety of reasons. All his mother is being quoted as saying is in her opinion the officer didn't have to bruise her kid. Heck, it wouldn't be the first time a mother was blind to facts in deference to her child. It doesn't make her a ghetto whore or a bad person.

Firstly, Bellwether - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Secondly, I never said a word about race, nor did I impugn the mother's virtue, so drop it.

Thirdly, crack cocaine didn't exist in the good old days of massive European immigration.

Fourthly, I have something that I think you lack, which is empirically derived evidence of its effect, which is not only individual, but also general upon the inner city social milieu.

If you're going to debate this, EH, try a less disingenuous tack.

 

[Krav69]

Yeah I never mentioned race, either.

Also, the kid should be looked at for his mental health. Seriously, his actions belie the fact that he is not normal, whatever his race. Six year olds should not be behaving like that.

Not to fear the followers of Larry Davis? I don't care that he is black. I was raised not far from a whole cult of Charles Manson followers, and even though Manson is white, did I fear him less?

No.

Why? Because while Charles Manson is no threat to me locked in prison, his followers are friggin' nuts, and they number in the hundreds, sadly. I've had in-depth conversations with Manson followers and it's really frightening to hear how Charlie is Jesus Christ personified and that he will impose his will on everyone, and soon we will all be worshipping Charles Manson, through violent or peaceful means, Helter Skelter is comin'....etc.... Manson followers openly recruited for their cult where I used to live, and they, in my mind, were equally as sick as Manson himself. Remember the followers carry out orders from their leaders...

Half the reason to hang onto our rights is to defend ourselves against people who think that this type of behavior (specifically the 6 year olds above) is okay.

The other half is to defend ourselves against those in three piece suits, and I don't trust Washington any more than you do.

 

[EventHorizon]

Firstly, Bellwether - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Secondly, I never said a word about race, nor did I impugn the mother's virtue, so drop it.

Thirdly, crack cocaine didn't exist in the good old days of massive European immigration.

Fourthly, I have something that I think you lack, which is empirically derived evidence of its effect, which is not only individual, but also general upon the inner city social milieu.

If you're going to debate this, EH, try a less disingenuous tack.

as I said, one kid is not a bellweather of anything - according to your own reference you're wrong.

Produce the empirical evidence of today's social malaise being caused by crack babies. I asked for this the first time. Because you made no references supporting your assumption I discounted and hence my reference to the European immigrants. I also pointed out that we don't know anything about the kid's background. As to the mother it was a general comment but you might want to refer to the title of your thread and how it relates to the mother.

You were saying about debating...

 

[Veer_G]

As to the mother it was a general comment but you might want to refer to the title of your thread and how it relates to the mother.

That's simply Southern Vernacular, a less rustic version of a dialect that many here call their own. It isn't quite the same as Frontier Gibberish, an example of which I offer below:



As for you, I do a fair impression of Annoying Rupert, but evidently not well enough to advance a convincing argument.

By the by, whence your terror of the Irish and the Welsh?

 

[EventHorizon]

I'm enjoying your retreat. I'd say rapid retreat but you've not been rapid at anything since the Carter administration.

The reference to Irish/Welsh was the rugby tours I played on. Also, just so you know, your 'rebel' song was a Ranger's football song, nothing to do with the Irish rebel songs. Carry on...

 

[Veer_G]

I'm enjoying your retreat. I'd say rapid retreat but you've not been rapid at anything since the Carter administration.

The reference to Irish/Welsh was the rugby tours I played on. Also, just so you know, your 'rebel' song was a Ranger's football song, nothing to do with the Irish rebel songs. Carry on...

It was a taunt. I know damned well which side of the Ibrox I'd sit in. No retreat, no surrender, ha ha, and not even a tussle here. You simply wade in looking to position yourself at one end or another of an argument, and if there isn't one yet established, you attempt to calculate its nature and erect an intellectual redoubt from which to sling mud-pies.

Mrs. Doyle has your tea ready, Dougal. Don't wear yourself out.