Rangefinders

[JohnLaw]

I can't decide between Leica 1600 or Swarovski Laserguide. I have owned the Swarovski and never had any complaints, sold it to fund some other shit I didn't need at the time some years ago. I was about to buy another one when i read about the Leica CRF 1600b. Sounds interesting. I will mostly be using it for punching paper and ringing steel out to 1000, and whitetails and yotes at much closer range. Since i don't need to get out past 1000 i haven been contemplating saving a few hundred bucks for more ammo.


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[JohnLaw]

..... But then again I do have short man syndrome and over compensating makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.


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[Rotortuner]

I know its quite a bit more expensive, but maybe save up for a vectronix. They are coming up used more often, i saw one gor for 1550 a month ago. There is range finders and then there is vectronix range finders. they just do it right. I have a PLRF10 and its not that hard to range steel targets at 1k and whatever else im curious about.

CJG

 

[Pinecone]

The advice is normally Terrapin if you can afford it, otherwise Leica.

 

[LRDD]

Hard to beat leica for the money.

 

[Ring]

the 1 mile bushnells will save you cash, and give you better performance

you can find a billion reviews of them and last years 1600ARC, that will do a mile+ as well


sure, the vectronix is tits, but if your not shooting past 1k, then its like buying a 338 to shoot 200y... whats the point?

 

[hooyah]

I have the Bushnell 1600ARC and have been very happy with the performance and I have used them on several occasions past 1K with no issues

JW

 

[WaltHer]

I have had really good success with my Leica 1600. It reliably ranges a variety of targets past 1000 yds in almost all conditions including bright light. I have little trouble routinely lasing a 19 x 35 steel target and at 1689yds. In low sunlight conditions it will range natural targets like trees, brush, and hillsides in excess of 1900. I really appreciate the quality of the monocular glass also and its very compact size. It is very clear and the magnification is good. Things I don't much care for: for me, the vertical orientation is harder to hold steady than rangefinders with horizontal orientation. Also the absence of a attachment point to my tripod is kind of a bummer. This is compounded by the aforementioned vertical orientation. All in all it is a very good piece of equipment, especially at the distances you describe. I have never used any of its "ballistic software" functions. That being said, I want to upgrade to a terrapin ASAP, but only for increased range. You might consider buying once so that you only cry once...

 

[Pinecone]

Leica does have a mount to attach the 1600B to a tripod. Except it is a $100 option.

Leica CRF Range Finder Tripod Adapter 98750

 

[Ring]

Leica does have a mount to attach the 1600B to a tripod. Except it is a $100 option.

Leica CRF Range Finder Tripod Adapter 98750

PRI has one for 25 or 30$

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[Pinecone]

Link please

 

[yetigoode2]

I have the Leica 1600 and love it. Totally bomber.

 

[WaltHer]

I've got the PRI mount, I just wish the 1600 came with the thing built in like my crappy old leupold...

 

[azsugarbear]

More often than not it isn't how far a rangefinder will range a reflective target/object in perfect conditions, but how and consistently it ranges during all types of weather and all kinds of targets. This is where most rangefinders will fall short. One of the most difficult tests for a rangefinder is a small, non-reflective target sitting about 600 yds away in open sage brush country with rolling terrain behind it. Most rangefinders will not be able to pick up the target over the sage brush or give you an accurate reading. Another situation is a non-reflective target in dense fog, or bright mid-day sun. I have owned and used both the Swaro and the Leica, and both will get those jobs done. The Swaro has slightly greater beam divergence (a negative), but it still performs well. I currently use the G7 BR2 with on-board software. I am pleased with the unit, but I have not fully tested it to give it two thumbs up. I consider the Vectronics PLRF5 (Terrapin) a whole other step higher than the three previously mentioned.

 

[rg1911]

I purchased a Bushnell Fusion 10x from a Hide member and have now used it at several matches.

To say that it's finicky and that the display is a true witch (you can correct my spelling) to see would be understatements.

The targets are 4.5 X 7-inch metal at any distance from 100 to 600 yards, and they generally are below the horizontal from the shooting position.

Unless I hold the binoculars away from my glasses at a certain angle, I can't see the display. And getting a range past 200 yards involves much trial and error. If you center the target in the aimpoint, the distance will come up too short. I assume this is because the cone of the laser is wide enough to return a reading from the ground well in front of the target. I have to hold so that only the lower half of the aimpoint is on the target. The problem, of course, is that if it's not held perfectly, the reading will be from something past the target.

I was told that this one was a display model for a year or so. The current model *may* have fixed some of the problems, but I'm not about to spend another $700+ to find out. Although it will range a house past 1000 yards, I've never seen a house used as a target at our monthly matches. And I'm positive that it won't range prairie dogs.

Richard

 

[Pinecone]

One more time, WHO THE HECK IS PRI? Or a link to the mount.

I have tried Google, but don't seem to come up with it.

 

[hondo1312]

My Leica 1000 sits perfectly in the PRS saddle.

 

[Dogtown]

One more time, WHO THE HECK IS PRI? Or a link to the mount.

I have tried Google, but don't seem to come up with it.

You are a no-go at this station.

Let me google that for you

 

[Ring]

I purchased a Bushnell Fusion 10x from a Hide member and have now used it at several matches.

To say that it's finicky and that the display is a true witch (you can correct my spelling) to see would be understatements.

The targets are 4.5 X 7-inch metal at any distance from 100 to 600 yards, and they generally are below the horizontal from the shooting position.

Unless I hold the binoculars away from my glasses at a certain angle, I can't see the display. And getting a range past 200 yards involves much trial and error. If you center the target in the aimpoint, the distance will come up too short. I assume this is because the cone of the laser is wide enough to return a reading from the ground well in front of the target. I have to hold so that only the lower half of the aimpoint is on the target. The problem, of course, is that if it's not held perfectly, the reading will be from something past the target.

I was told that this one was a display model for a year or so. The current model *may* have fixed some of the problems, but I'm not about to spend another $700+ to find out. Although it will range a house past 1000 yards, I've never seen a house used as a target at our monthly matches. And I'm positive that it won't range prairie dogs.

Richard

Having actually measured the dispersion beam with a set of night vision goggles, I can tell you the beam is about the same as every other high-end beam out there for size and shape its a vertical rectangle , as to where it falls within the bullseye I'm not entirely sure that's would take some trial and error of a target that doesn't have a background so that you know you are hitting it..

I have ranged 12 by 12 steel at 7 and 800 yards they did not have a background, and I have ranged out to 1800 plus with it

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[Sako man]

This order, have and or used all of these.

1. Vector, hands fucking down no question. It's like going from a Bushnell to an SnB in tactical optics terms.

2. Swarovski, very nice glass and good distance, my only complaint was the large doughnut reticle, I hear they have a newer version with smaller reticle?

3. Leica, close to the Swarovski but addition of inclinometer, good glass. Have not owned this one but used a friends on several occasions.



Bushnell fusion 1600 ACR is ok but it would take you several tries to accurately laze something that might light up first try with the Vector or Swaro. Price vs performance I would vote Swaro if they do indeed have a new reticle.

 

[Pinecone]

You are a no-go at this station.

Let me google that for you

OK, I had found the right PRI, but I still can't find a mount for the Leica Rangefinder.

Your obtuse way of showing the search, still doesn't take me to THAT mount.

Is it under Scope Rings - Nope, Specialty Bases - Nope, Bases Long Action - Nope, Bases Short Action - Nope, Night vision Mounts - Nope, ShotgunMounts - Nope, AR15/M16 Accesories - Nope, 308 Accessories - Nope, Upper Assemblies - Nope, Tools & Accessories - Nope, Merchandise - Nope.

Search the PRI site for "mount" 9 pages still not coming up.

 

[lifebreath]

Edit! ... I've got a Zeiss Victory PRF with a donut reticle with horizontal and verticle lines that extend from the donut. It's got nice glass and works great in various conditions out past 1200. You have to hold on the bottom of the donut for good accuracy. It also has a number of ballistics programs built in. You can find one that matches pretty closely your rifle/load ballistics and it will give you the holdover. Can be set up for yards or meters.

 

[Bobo3020]

Edit! ... I've got a Zeiss Victory PRF with a donut reticle with horizontal and verticle lines that extend from the donut. It's got nice glass and works great in various conditions out past 1200. You have to hold on the bottom of the donut for good accuracy. It also has a number of ballistics programs built in. You can find one that matches pretty closely your rifle/load ballistics and it will give you the holdover. Can be set up for yards or meters.

+1

 

[WaltHer]

My apologies, I meant PRS as in Web Store - PRECISION RIFLE SOLUTIONS, LLC, sorry bout that

One more time, WHO THE HECK IS PRI? Or a link to the mount.

I have tried Google, but don't seem to come up with it.

 

[WaltHer]

Or see Hondos cool pic above, I have been using a little different PRS product but am checking my mount like Hondos right-ninja-now!

You are a no-go at this station.

Let me google that for you

 

[300 jarret]

I read the reports sold my G7BR2 and saved my money for a few moths and bought a Terrapin-------- it's a bad mother FU-KER!!!!?!!! Ranged a smokestack at Iron mill ( took 3 try's!) 4868 yds!!!!! Had to find a white spot on stack!! Easily ranged at over 2200 yds. ( 24"x24") plate!!

 

[seg_steve]

I think the Leica is a better option.

 

[calz]

Hey guys, I recently did a pretty comprehensive field test on several rangefinders. It doesn't include the Leica monocular, but it doesn't include a few of the other models you guys are talking about. Here is the line-up:



And like others have said ... yes the Vectronix is the best, period. I did testing in the field over 3 months, collected 10,000 data points ... and it just confirmed exactly what everyone is saying. They are amazing, and surgically precise rangefinders.

The Leica Geovid HD-B wasn't far behind the Vectronix models though. And the new Bushnell Fusion 1 Mile binoculars had surprisingly stellar performance ranging as well, especially offhand. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to test a Swarovski set. I really wish I could have included them.

Anyway ... I thought you guys might want to check out the results:
Rangefinder Binoculars Reviews & Field Tests: Ranging Performance Results | PrecisionRifleBlog.com