Maggie’s Re-enlisting to go to AK

dave1894

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My wife and I both want to go to Alaska for some reason. Being in Iraq it is hard to prepare for something like this. Some of you I have already talked to about heading that way but it seems "according to my wife" that we are best off not trying to drive our van "that isn't in the best condition" all the way there especially when we are going to be doing it in around the winter time... We have decided it is in our best interest to fly and let the military move the van... The only problem I forsee is having to wait for our vehicle after we get there...

If anyone has some key pointers etc. to prepare for this extreme cold wheather adventure if you will, fill this young'n in will ya please. Have 4 kids, a ugly boston bull terrier and a "usually cranky" beautiful wife.

I know I have to get the van winterized and get all the nessecary heater's for the van when I am there. My biggest concern is the housing like where to get it, what type of heating should I be looking in to. I'm also hearing that I need to be command sponsered when going to AK?

Again if anyone has some pointer's yell my way or respond here.

Thanks a million!
Lw
 
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If you've gotten notification of the unit you are reporting to, contact them and find out if you have a sponsor. A good sponsor can answer alll of your questions. Sometimes the OCONUS units have a better sponsor system than the CONUS. Never been stationed in AK, but good luck to ya.
 
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Need to know where you are going to be stationed, as it will make a HUGE difference on what you need to do to the vehicle. Ft. Rich, not so much, Ft Wainwright or Greeley, a lot.
 
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The housing thing depends on where you are going. I was just up at Wainwright the other day and there on base housing looks very nice. Also there are alot of houses and apartments in Fairbanks. Ft Rich I have never been to or anchorage, so I cannot comment on that, but would only assume more housing than at Fairbanks. If you get to come to Greely then the housing to choose from is far less than the other two. I wouldn't think you would be going to Ft Greely though. Don't drive if you don't have to. Just did the drive from Florida to here in mid December and it got dicey in some spots but I did make it. Dress warm and make sure your kids always have on a hat.
 
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My brother-in-law lived in Anchorage for several years. His family's reports included word that every fall, there is a glut of used "stuff", including vehicles, for sale by flatlanders (my term) who just don't want to take another winter there.

Pure civvie experience. Do you want me to ask for his & the S-i-L and the nephews' responses to your questions?

Best wishes!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Knife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just did the drive from Florida to here in mid December and it got dicey in some spots</div></div>

How long did that take?!?!
 
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You're a better man than I. I probably would have nodded off somewhere in Illinois. It's hard enough for me to make the 10 minute drive to work in this boring state.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J-Ham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're a better man than I. I probably would have nodded off somewhere in Illinois. It's hard enough for me to make the 10 minute drive to work in this boring state. </div></div>

The drive to AK is absolutely gorgeous!!!!
 
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I did the same thing you are doing- it was the 6ID(L) then but I had to move my family (4 year old, 3 year old and a brand new baby and two dogs) to FT. Wainwright in January from Arizona. If you want to drive it is possible but not necessarily recommended unless you have a 4 wheel drive: I ended up deciding to get on the Ferry at Bellingham Washington and it drops you off in Haines AK and other spots and I think also Anchorage now. The website is http://www.dot.state.ak.us/amhs/index.shtml. It is a nice travel on the boat through the islands of Canada and Alaska.

Just make sure that your cars are set-up for Alaska cold especially if you go to Wainwright. It is a cold bitch there in the winter. Anchorage is more temperate. If it is Wainwright then I would suggest you get a battery blanket and a block heater at a minimum and when you get to Washington change your fluids to light weight winter oils. Believe me on this – I screwed up and didn’t do that and when I got to Fairbanks it was
51 below zero and my transmission pretty much froze up. I had to drive it smoking to a shop to get the fluids changed. Just learned my lesson.

 
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I have made the drive many times, never again. Being from Alaska, we never got hassled at the boarder when they see the Ak plates. I have not driven since early 90s. Winter is better, less traffic and road is smoother. Its very pretty but a long way but if you take your time and make a vacation of it. Us, we are the move and go go go to get to the states. If you can, might try to buy 4x4 truck with a box trailer there, drive it up DITY move, sell it make some coin. This is big business buying in Idaho, drive it up selling in AK. Some guys make a lot of coin doing this. Not sure of the prices in your AO though.

Get a freeze plug type heater no matter where you PCS. They work better than the heater hose type. Get a timer for your pug in. My Squarebanks rig had battery wrap, oil dipstick heater and inside space heater sitting on a cookie sheet. All cords ran to an electrical box on the fender well, then one cord out the grill to a timer.

Run steel studs once you get here, pay the tax, alloy studs do not work as well. Snipped tires are the rage, never used them but steel studs work I do know and alloy do not last as long and give the same traction as steel once they get some wear. Buy a set of steel wheels to mount your winter tires, savings over the long time. Can sell very easy when you PCS.

Lemon lots are full of; I cannot afford this rig once I PCS so I will take a loss to get rid of it. AK rigs have many miles on them for the time owned, lots of driving here to get anywhere. Its nothing to drive 300 miles for a day trip.

I beleive you have to be command sponsored at least you had to.

Post / base housing can be superb, good and not so good. Major construction projects over the last 2 decades. Many now have garages even for E4s which is the rank for housing. I think the new leased housing is open to all ranks.

Fort Rich and Elmo are now one base, its all AF command and I understand all of Alaska Command will be under AF.

Gas heating is all you want, have electric heat and if you do, monthly bill will be outrageous. Many older houses have boiler forced water heat. Not as good as gas, many cold areas around the house. Wood fireplaces are a nogo now, only can have gas fireplace. Fireplaces are for mood anyway, get a wood stove if you want to heat by wood.

Once you cross the Canada boarder your residency starts for military; driving up can give you the extra month if you cross on the last day of the month for hunting and the PFD.

Develop an active life style; winters can be tuff sitting at home, ski, snowshoe, just go shopping to get out. In the old days, malls opened up for kids to ride bikes, skate and get exercise but the liberal lawyers have shut all this down with liability but you can walk and run in the malls.

Its hard not to with all around you saying otherwise especially the military, but I would recommend not buying into you need wheeler to hunt. Add up what it cost to buy and maintain an wheeler Vs fly out to hunt and you will discover flying is cheaper. If you can wheel there, so can a hundred other wheelers and yes they do run right through your camp.

The bad side, do not expect to go anywhere in the backcountry and NOT see people. The days of leaving camp, your rig or your cabin and come back to it all there are mostly gone. You will get robbed. We got a huge influx of inner city people last few years and they brought it all here. Last week, thugs put a hit on an APD cop, called in bogus call, as the cop sat in his cruiser at the call, a small rice grinder pulled up next to him and shot him 5 times.

Come on up and welcome, need anything just ask

Add on, I have been retired for 10 years but E5 is the cut off or was for living comfortable here. E6 and above can live OK on one income, E4 and below wife must work, E5 is the yes or no depending on how you live and what you want to do and spend. It is not a problem spending $500 for a weekend trip.
 
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I had borrowed my mother inlaws 1973 Nova - it had the heater hose heater in it and when you started it you had a bit of movement on the temp guage and mild heat.

My BLOCK heater though took 30-40 minutes to warm the car up - just that cold...


You will have to extremely winterize any vehicle you have and you absolutely DO want a reliable vehicle - if you break down 6 miles out of town at 40 below....no fun.

I ran out of gas at a stop light, 2 blocks from a gas station, 44 below zero - dumbass me...



Wainwright - you get your vehicle shipped to Anchorage, pay the $90 and fly down and drive it up, at least in the 90's it was that way......

Greely - not sure but I saw a lot of guys with POV's so I assume the same thing.

Duty station wise, Rich is easiest, Wainwright is the most civilized outside of Ft Richardson, greely would be the best extreme cold weather....


Fairbanks - more to do, IMHO.......gold panning, moose hunting, fishing, dip netting...

Greely is good too, Ft Rich you gotta small drive to get out of town but not bad compared to most major cities.


I just talked to my former inlaws tonight, forgot to ask what the weather was up to LOL


You'll have a good rotation, and I'm not sure but back in 1990 a 4 year tour got you an overseas ribbon for it.
 
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Daily Space A C12 from Elmo to Eielson, leaves around 0900 and gets back to Elmo around 1500. Must ride with the heavy brass but its affordable.

Monthly Space A KC135 from Eielson to Scott AFB and back, grab the bus to St Louis AP. Very hard to get Space A from Scott AFB. Space A to Germany from St Louis, not sure how often, used it once.

Elmo has an every Saturday 0700 medivac C17 to Traffis in Kali, then up to McCord in WA. Leaves McChord for Eielson then to Elmo on Friday. Problem is, it is stuffed full with a long Space A list but it carries no cargo and can hold a good amount of Space A. Medivacs with families first, AD then us retirees. Take bus into Seattle AP from Fort Lewis, I think Travis has a bus too but never used it.

C17 on Pacific tour. From McCord, Elmo, Japan, Hawaii, Travis, McCord, etc. completes this circle two times a week.

Daily C5 flight from Travis to Delaware AFB.

Heater hose heaters are so 80s, they did not afford same level of heat into the block as freeze plug. Now, it is easy to go to a mechanic and get freeze plug installed, $50 plus heater. Rigs up from the states back when was not so easy for the freeze plug so the hose heater was used.

There was talk of reg changes about the overseas tour, 2000 it still was.

The best duty in Alaska was King Salmon.

I love the interior (Sqaurbanks area) but for families (wives) not as much for them to keep them civilized (happy) as Anchorage.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JimT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Need to know where you are going to be stationed, as it will make a HUGE difference on what you need to do to the vehicle. Ft. Rich, not so much, Ft Wainwright or Greeley, a lot. </div></div>

I know what you are getting around to. I have been talking to people here about preperation for some time now. Especially when it comes to my POV. I think the drive is out of the question as I would be leaving around the DEC time frame.

I'm not sure which base I will end up at right now, as I have not re-enlisted yet. Most likely it will be Wainwright.

Thanks a million for the responses as they are another wake up call for me as I was thinking about driving it and remembered it's hairy.

Take care my friends,
Lw
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 45.308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Heater hose heaters are so 80s, they did not afford same level of heat into the block as freeze plug. Now, it is easy to go to a mechanic and get freeze plug installed, $50 plus heater. Rigs up from the states back when was not so easy for the freeze plug so the hose heater was used.
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Agree. And freeze plug heaters are 90´s...

Got this in two previous cars. Full size Dodge Ram with 6-inline Cummins diesel, and current small pick-up Nissan diesel. I live not too much south from arctic circle. is the LAST accessory i would give up in wintertime. 4000-6000watt heating power without cords. Just press button in car or remote.
For comparison, typical freeze plug block heaters are 350-500watt. Big diesel trucks might have 700watt.

Can be fitted to virtually any vehicle, gas or diesel.
Two biggest brand links:
http://www.espar.com/html/applications/automotive.html
http://www.webasto.us/am/en/am_auto_heaters.html

It is good to have freeze plug heater too tho, just in case. It doesent cost much.
 
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Are you on crack? Didn't Drum snow enough for you?
Heh heh heh, congrats on re-upping!
When I left Drum in December it was 19* after dumping 36" of snow. I am SO glad to be out of that place!
Good Luck man. You may want to get rid of the van and get a good 4x4 truck. I suggest new with some nice ice capable tires and a good sealing cap over the bed. Our little Dakota 4x4 served us fine in Drum since 2004 and never failed in cold or snow