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Reaching the boiling point
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@31 min mark... Interesting doctor comments just before this guy.
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No truer words spoken. More and more of this, is going to start popping up around our Country. Patriots will only stand for so much. Mac
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Shasta County, California Home Page
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@31 min mark... Interesting doctor comments just before this guy.
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Wont work for me.
The problem is that COVID is a serious problem. Could it be worse... you bet. However, with a death eate hovering under 4%, mostly due to hospitals not being totally overwlemed in all jurisdictions, it coukd be alot worse.
The death rate in other countries with shitty healthcare systems have been as high as 9%. 9 out of 100 people die...
Think about that...
The flu killed a little over 60,000 in the 2019-2020 season. We are well above that, and there are quality of life long there issues with COVID.
Much of which can be handled by simply wearing an effective mask. (Six layers of cotton or an N95 / KN95 mask...)
Yeah, we have no choice, we need to reopen... but all the consipracy theory jackasses out there need to wear a damn mask a quit whining.
The death rate in other countries with shitty healthcare systems have been as high as 9%. 9 out of 100 people die...
Think about that...
The flu killed a little over 60,000 in the 2019-2020 season. We are well above that, and there are quality of life long there issues with COVID.
Much of which can be handled by simply wearing an effective mask. (Six layers of cotton or an N95 / KN95 mask...)
Yeah, we have no choice, we need to reopen... but all the consipracy theory jackasses out there need to wear a damn mask a quit whining.
So serious you have to be tested to know if you even have it. 
Countries with shitty healthcare systems have more underlying issues that exacerbate the virus. Yet there is low to no drive to address that. As always with the government, a band Aid is the solution.
I really don’t know what to make of it to be honest. I know 3 people in their 80’s that have been tested 2x for it and been positive both times and have shown zero symptoms at all. Kind of weird. Makes me think the testing, for them at least was flawed. Talked to the doc and he said highly unlikely because that facility is known to be accurate 99% of the time and to be wrong 2x for multiple people is unlikely. I don’t know what to make of it, seriously.
Same here. 97 yo grandma . No underlying heath issues.
With people I know in my area working in US Military healthcare system (On and Off base military care facility) not being tested.....EVER.....YET the area is said to be in one of the "hot zones"....WTF?!?!?
It's BS.....all of it....political drama to be drug out till the election.....
It's BS.....all of it....political drama to be drug out till the election.....
Above is right. What you said is nowhere near correct. In fact, if you are young and healthy you are actually more likely to die by lightning strike than from coronavirus.
Glad to see in addition to good knowledge of long range shooting we have so many experts with doctoral degrees in infectious diseases on this board who know more about this than the CDC and other health care experts.
Remember, YOU give the power to the 'authority' over you by following what they tell you to do.
Stop following them and they lose all of their power.
Gun owners/most conservatives are extremely guilty of this and have lost miles because they didn't want to do much about losing an inch at a time.
Stop following them and they lose all of their power.
Gun owners/most conservatives are extremely guilty of this and have lost miles because they didn't want to do much about losing an inch at a time.
CDC is a political organization, nothing more and Fauci is a fraud.
Believe what you want but I’m not wearing a mask or getting the vaccine.
How about the military? Are they political too? Since they are issuing orders on troop movements and behavior in response to COVID?
And Wade, so glad Michigan is such a foreign country. With their strange ideas and customs. We drink pop and bake with soda. And can use our hand as a map to show where we live. Heck, were so quaint, we even have an island where only the police, fire, and EMTs are allowed to have cars. The rest is horse, feet, or peddle power!
You are the AOC of the hide. If you don't know, pretend you know. IF that doesn't stick get mad. It may be true that this country is getting dumber.
IrishWind: "How about the military? Are they political too? "
Is the Military political...at the O-6 level and above without a doubt, absolutely, completely, totally, utterly, entirely, wholly, fully, unreservedly, definitely, certainly, fuck yes.
Is the Military political...at the O-6 level and above without a doubt, absolutely, completely, totally, utterly, entirely, wholly, fully, unreservedly, definitely, certainly, fuck yes.
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Wade, as someone who has family members with high risk factors and also my family knows people who have gotten sick and died from this, I hope your cavalier attitude towards your fellow man doesn't end up biting you in the ass. Sure, you might be young and healthy, but what about your family? Are you willing to lose someone you care about because you have to fight the government? I'm not. You were clearly never in the military. Otherwise a face covering would be a minor thing compared to the shit one has to wear when in uniform.
Whitmer is an ass. No argument there. And the Michigan Republicans can replace her in 2022 if they don't pick an out of touch, asshat politician. I live in Virginia right now, and the VA Republicans are a mess. Monica Crowley once said the Republicans never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, and in VA that is so true.
Also Wade (and others who think like him), where did you get your MD degree from? Or what sources are you using to think COVID is not a contagious desease. Feel free to link to them.
Whitmer is an ass. No argument there. And the Michigan Republicans can replace her in 2022 if they don't pick an out of touch, asshat politician. I live in Virginia right now, and the VA Republicans are a mess. Monica Crowley once said the Republicans never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, and in VA that is so true.
Also Wade (and others who think like him), where did you get your MD degree from? Or what sources are you using to think COVID is not a contagious desease. Feel free to link to them.
The guy shoots his mouth off about running all over the metroplex including the gun ranges without a mask.
LMAO
Wife and I shot at 2 different ranges this week, no mask no shoot or buy ammo.
Security natzis at the door of many retail stores, no admittance.
I'm not getting in a gunfight over a mask anyday soon.
Come to think of it only time I have worn a mask this week was at the range and academy to get some 6.5 123gr sst bullets.
They will throw you out.
LMAO
Wife and I shot at 2 different ranges this week, no mask no shoot or buy ammo.
Security natzis at the door of many retail stores, no admittance.
I'm not getting in a gunfight over a mask anyday soon.
Come to think of it only time I have worn a mask this week was at the range and academy to get some 6.5 123gr sst bullets.
They will throw you out.
5, 403,756 Positive cases for covid19, Aug 15th
331,002,651 US Population
x 100% = 1.632% of the total population. Yes, this is devastating.
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620,000 Died during the Civil War
30,000,000 US Population during the Civil War
x 100% = 2.067% of the total population. Even more devastating. Unseen enemy (covid19) could still be more devastating than man was because we are fighting an unseen enemy in the covid19.
331,002,651 US Population
x 100% = 1.632% of the total population. Yes, this is devastating.
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620,000 Died during the Civil War
30,000,000 US Population during the Civil War
x 100% = 2.067% of the total population. Even more devastating. Unseen enemy (covid19) could still be more devastating than man was because we are fighting an unseen enemy in the covid19.
Wow...did you just compare people who were actually KILLED in the Civil War to people who have tested positive (and 99%+ of those have survived) for Covid?
Wow.
My bad yes you are right. The only reason I did it this way is because those that could possibly continue to die from covid19. The Civil War is done and gone in the past. I don't think that anyone on this earth knows what the final outcome of covid19 will become.
I know of no place to find truly accurate Covid numbers. Believe what you want.
Stay in your house and wear your mask and you will be fine. Lots of your governors said so, they must be right. No politician would lie about something like this.
Stay in your house and wear your mask and you will be fine. Lots of your governors said so, they must be right. No politician would lie about something like this.
I can say with certainty the outcome will be continuing government overrearch world-wide, stripping of rights, inciting of hatred between neighbors, and fearmongering, fearmongering, fearmongering. Oh yeah and a bunch of folks that were already past the expiration date (average life expectancy in their countries) might die of Covid instead of something else.
It’ll become like all the other “scary” cold viruses did. A footnote in history, and the occasional sniffle here and there as herd immunity kicks in. Masks are making people more sick than the coronavirus is.
Maybe compare this to the Spanish Flu, which we are trying to keep from happening again. And failing because instead of trying to help, too many are acting selfishly. Every time we see groups of people not listening, guess what? COVID cases spike. And the Governemnt is getting involved because there are too many people who refuse to chip in and help. Sorry a piece of cloth over your mouth is such a torture. But instead of giving the government an excuse to act, just follow the recommendations when this first broke and we would be past it by now.
And you have a peer reviewed medical journal article to back that up? Link please.
Harvard expert compares 1918 flu, COVID-19
Liz MineoHarvard Staff Writer
May 19, 2020
This is part of our Coronavirus Update series in which Harvard specialists in epidemiology, infectious disease, economics, politics, and other disciplines offer insights into what the latest developments in the COVID-19 outbreak may bring.
Olga Jonas, senior fellow at the Harvard Global Health Institute, is an expert in managing the risks of pandemics. During her 33-year stint as an economist at the World Bank, one of her responsibilities was to coordinate the bank’s contribution to the global efforts in 2006‒12 to reduce the avian and pandemic influenza threats. In 2013, Jonas authored “Pandemic Risk” for the annual flagship publication, the World Development Report.
As The Gazette spoke with Jonas about what governments can learn from the coronavirus outbreak to be prepared for the next pandemic, the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center, was showing that the virus has infected more than 2 million people and killed more than 150,000 worldwide.
Q&A
Olga Jonas
GAZETTE: What are the differences between the 1918 flu pandemic and the 2019 coronavirus pandemic? What are the similarities?
JONAS: Fortunately, such pandemics don’t happen very often, but the speed of the virus spread is a most concerning feature. One clear difference is that the world is now much more densely populated than in 1918. There were fewer than 2 billion people in 1918, and now there are 7.5 billion, and the population is much more mobile. In 1918, there was no air travel. People move around much more, and the spread of a virus is much faster than before, when people traveled by ship or horse, or didn’t travel much at all. Another difference is that in 1918, between 50 and 100 million people died within two years.
Possibly. Possibly not.
Like apples and oranges. Doesn't take a brick to fall on my head to tell me to stay indoors.
What’s the death rate?
5,403,756 reported positive cases.
170,000 deaths reportedly Covid-19 related.
(Which includes the obviously inflated fraudulent additions to the numbers ny New York and New Jersey)
Even with all the car wrecks, heart attacks, and shootings being reported as Covid-19 related, we’re at 170,000 reported deaths.
That’s a 1.2% death rate per infected.
And when this whole thing has blown over - the inflated infected numbers will dilute the resulting death rate, and the obviously fraudulently numbers will be in black and white for everyone to see and understand exactly how much the statistics were manipulated for political gamesmanship.
The death rate so far of total population is at .05%.
And mainly the same people dying from this virus would have died from the flu.
So this entire exercise is over semantics and political gamesmanship.
I have a .00051359 chance of dying from this virus.
How about you?
5,403,756 reported positive cases.
170,000 deaths reportedly Covid-19 related.
(Which includes the obviously inflated fraudulent additions to the numbers ny New York and New Jersey)
Even with all the car wrecks, heart attacks, and shootings being reported as Covid-19 related, we’re at 170,000 reported deaths.
That’s a 1.2% death rate per infected.
And when this whole thing has blown over - the inflated infected numbers will dilute the resulting death rate, and the obviously fraudulently numbers will be in black and white for everyone to see and understand exactly how much the statistics were manipulated for political gamesmanship.
The death rate so far of total population is at .05%.
And mainly the same people dying from this virus would have died from the flu.
So this entire exercise is over semantics and political gamesmanship.
I have a .00051359 chance of dying from this virus.
How about you?
making me do anything, is torture. im a free man.
Here... y'all read some of this - scroll down a page and find the list of studies about masks.
www.rcreader.com
Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002
N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.
Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence,” Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x
“There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”
And on and on and on...
Personally, I just want to know the truth - I could give a fuck about being "right". I'm wrong twenty times a day, twenty-one ain't going to humiliate me. My wife is hot and she can shoot, what else matters?
But something ain't adding up with all of this BS. If you can't figure that out, drink some Spin-D
And kudos to the citizens of Shasta County
Post edit: worst thing? THEY are pitting the citizenry against each other... THEY get more power while WE fight amongst ourselves about fucking masks... Wake up.
Masks Don’t Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy
There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol...
www.rcreader.com
Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial,” American Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19216002
N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.
Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A systematic review,” Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/face-masks-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a-systematic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein.
bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence,” Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x
“There were 17 eligible studies. … None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.”
And on and on and on...
Personally, I just want to know the truth - I could give a fuck about being "right". I'm wrong twenty times a day, twenty-one ain't going to humiliate me. My wife is hot and she can shoot, what else matters?
But something ain't adding up with all of this BS. If you can't figure that out, drink some Spin-D
And kudos to the citizens of Shasta County
Post edit: worst thing? THEY are pitting the citizenry against each other... THEY get more power while WE fight amongst ourselves about fucking masks... Wake up.
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I would like to add retired to this but I have been busier since retiring than working.
You don't need a doctoral degree to spot BS. A basic understanding of 5th grade math will do.
168,000 deaths in a country of 330 million is nowhere close to a 4 percent death rate. It's more like .05%.
says the guy who can't even find a cite from Alex Jones quote to back up his arguments.
Man
Take your tampon out and shut the fuck up. We are so tired of hearing you spew your utter BS......have your wife put her face to your ass and fart, if she can smell it through your underwear, then your masks that everyone is wearing is that fucking effective. And germs are a lot smaller particles than a fart is.
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That's the CFR (case fatality rate), which is nowhere rooted in reality. Way more people have it then are being tested. In the US, they believe that there's 10 to 24x more people with COVID-19 for every confirmed case.
IFR (infectious fatality rate) studies from around the globe paint the fatality rate from ~0.1 to 0.4%.
The Spanish Flu had a fatality rate of ~3%, and killed ~50 million people around the globe, when the world's population was ~23% of what it is today. That means if we were to approach Spanish Flu fatality rate with our world population, we would see a death toll close to or around ~250 million.
I'm not sure about you, but from what I'm seeing, we are nowhere near that number.
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Not even remotely comparable, as per my previous post.
People who compare COVID-19 to the Spanish Flu have no fucking clue what they are comparing. It's like comparing a sprained pinkie finger to a sucking chest wound.
