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‎30-06 old gun I've had since I was a kid put a 338 lapua 6 weight heavy bull barrel by hart had them flute it and put the muzzle break on, had the action trued and blue printed, shilen match grade tactical trigger ,new custom made bolt fro...m pacific tool and die, hoyt thumb in whole laminate stock with the aluminuim ......and kevlar bedding , and the bushnell elite 6500 tactical scope with the shade I'm getting 2 in moa shot groups at 1000 meters and same whole groups out to 600 meters with it Oh ya almost forgot the harris swivel bipods new drop floor plate and mercury weight recoil reducer added to back of stock It kicks about like a 22LR shooting 180 gr match grade sst hornadys with 58 gr of H110 hybrid which are rounds that usally crack basic rifle stocks, its a 338 lapua barrel,, but chambered for 30-06 so i can put some super hot loads in it and it doesnt phase it at all, the barrel in strenght is 10 times that of the stock barrel
 
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"its a 338 lapua barrel,, but chambered for 30-06 so i can put some super hot loads in it and it doesnt phase it at all, the barrel in strenght is 10 times that of the stock barrel"

I am sorry but I lost you there is it a 338-06 that you have or are you just not making much sence?

Still I am glad that you are happy about your rifle.

/Chris
 
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One hole groups out to 600 and 2" groups at 1000, you are my hero! A 338 Lapua barrel chambered in 30-06! 58gr of H110 with 180gr SST's, hell thats more like a missle launcher than a rifle! Good thing you have a laminated stock with "the aluminuim ......and kevlar bedding"-nothing else would be able to stand up to that kind of firepower!!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&#8206;338 lapua 6 weight heavy bull barrel by hart </div></div>

6 weight? How much backing are you using on that rig?
 
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as in what?? what locking lugged i used to mount the barrel to the action??? barrels free floating all the way to reciever<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wfjames22</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&#8206;338 lapua 6 weight heavy bull barrel by hart </div></div>

6 weight? How much backing are you using on that rig?</div></div>
 
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the kicker about it isthe recoil is a little more than a 22 mag but less than a 5.56 fired from my m-4<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wfjames22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One hole groups out to 600 and 2" groups at 1000, you are my hero! A 338 Lapua barrel chambered in 30-06! 58gr of H110 with 180gr SST's, hell thats more like a missle launcher than a rifle! Good thing you have a laminated stock with "the aluminuim ......and kevlar bedding"-nothing else would be able to stand up to that kind of firepower!!! </div></div>
 
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it took a bit of rounds to break it in 600 hand loaded rounds for the initial break in , cleaned her good took her back out the next day and put another 400 rds through her,, cleaned her shot 20 rounds, then took her on the elk hunt and did an awesome job 750 kill shot on my bull 7x6<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RWG818</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.338 or .308 barrel. i belive even a 338.06 is a .308 bbl. 2" groups and 1k ?. Looks nice </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it took a bit of rounds to break it in 600 hand loaded rounds for the initial break in , cleaned her good took her back out the next day and put another 400 rds through her,, cleaned her shot 20 rounds, then took her on the elk hunt and did an awesome job 750 kill shot on my bull 7x6 </div></div>

I wish I could get my rifles to "break in" with only 600 rounds! You got lucky with only 400 rounds the next day to get her dialed in. NICE STICK!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RWG818</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.338 or .308 barrel. i belive even a 338.06 is a .308 bbl. 2" groups and 1k ?. Looks nice </div></div>

A 338-06 is an 30-06 necked up o take 338 bullets, this fellow in this thread here has taken a piss on a few to many electric fences or similar cause I fear his wires are all burned and crossed.

As stated by Mike, a load full of it.

/Chris
 
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Ya, you said its is a 338 barrel, that is chabered in 30-06. So you have a barrel that is .338 and a a bullet that is .308. and to boot your getting 2" groups at 1k. let me know the builder, ill take 2. That aint gonna fly straight at all. That bullet will bounce out of the barrel and be like

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I dont know shankster or the other guy, but someone is playing games RIght ? some
 
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HAhahahahahahaha I like it. I had a .308 barrel chambered in .22lr shot negative 4 inch groups at 4000 yards. I used black powder/c4 mix and firecrackers as primers and itdidnt kick at all!!!

I believe tis a joke post guys....?

Jim
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you realize that .338 is larger than .30 and therefore you are full of shit? And no, the bullet is not going to expand enough to make a seal.

Just askin' </div></div>

As much as some of the stuff sounds odd to me, he did say "no its was a 338 lapua magnum barrel blank weight 6,, i had it fluted and tapered , drilled to .308 inside diamater 1 and 10 twist for the heavier rounds ,chamber for 30-06"

A 308 bullet doesn't need to expand much to fill a 308 bore.

Just sayin'
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: larbhills</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you realize that .338 is larger than .30 and therefore you are full of shit? And no, the bullet is not going to expand enough to make a seal.

Just askin' </div></div>

As much as some of the stuff sounds odd to me, he did say "no its was a 338 lapua magnum barrel blank weight 6,, i had it fluted and tapered , drilled to .308 inside diamater 1 and 10 twist for the heavier rounds ,chamber for 30-06"

A 308 bullet doesn't need to expand much to fill a 308 bore.

Just sayin' </div></div>

He didn't say a .308 bore, he said .338 Lapua bbl.
 
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2 in moa...which one? Match sst's? H110 hybrid? I got your back, Buddy. I'll point out the believable for everybody. I believe you did sustain a brain injury...I believe you do indeed spend too much time fishing and drinking beer...and uhhhh, i'm out.
 
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h110 and h 110 v hybrid works good for rifles, but you have to have the gun to handle it,, if not use hodge 4350 or 4835?? max load from hornady is 54.4 grns,,, the new up to date load data is on there web site and downloadable for the new powder configures from 40 grain bullets to 450 grn bullets in all makes for hornady to sierra, to laser cast, to hand mold with and without gas checks, ballistics calculater tbm i believe with barrel length and muzzel break length and cut of angle for ports plus the records your keeping in your dope book and loading dope book, for your gun.. and measuring the brass for expansion ,, primer blow out, cracked necks, new brass or fresh cut cleaned and trimmed sit in water up to just below the necks after they have been fire formed to the gun and heat them with a butane or map gas torch until they change to the blue demacask color let them cool put them back in the tumbler and double check lenght and maybe re trim rcbs auto trimmer,, just to clean them up and even them out to get match grade qualtiy out of your brass, lyman digital powder scale recalibrated every 10 rds, and just load 20 rounds at a time till you get the load that suits you and the rounds your gun can handle.. and yes its the same powder i use to load up my 44.mag 300 xtp or 380 laser cast with gas checks, and for my 30 carbine ,, and for the 96 spanish mauser 7x57 you get a lot faster flatter shooting bullet and modify it so you can shoot it all day long and dont feel like some pro football player kicked your ass with a sledge hammer
 
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custom guy jim hall in Idaho falls,, has cancer though i hope he pulls through he still has my 96 mauser i dropped off to get a new hart barrel, timney match triger with side safety to , new back back to take off the old mauser flip safety, hs presicion stock that needs modified for the side saftey, leopold varx 3 gun for my wife so she can enjoy hunting and shooting besides she's taken over my 2 m-4's and my g-3 :(, and a m1 grand i bought from a buddy for $50.00 needs new barrel it was his dads service rifle in ww2 and he blew the gas ring out for the blow back piston. the barrel blank was threaded for 338 lapua that's y i had to have the action blue printed and trued he threaded the 338 lapua barrel blank on punch or drill out to .308 caliber chambered and turned for 30-06 springfield but a a little different necking on the round close to 30-06 springfield<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RWG818</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ya, you said its is a 338 barrel, that is chabered in 30-06. So you have a barrel that is .338 and a a bullet that is .308. and to boot your getting 2" groups at 1k. let me know the builder, ill take 2. That aint gonna fly straight at all. That bullet will bounce out of the barrel and be like

_________________
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I dont know shankster or the other guy, but someone is playing games RIght ? some </div></div>
 
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no dead series lets go shooting and see who wins $50 dollars a shot at 1000 meteres play a game of texas hold um, or 3 card stud plus bets on each round or hand going arond make it interesting you shoot your draw cards at 1000m third party flips the 3 cards and bets inbetween and choose your through away cards by shooting them again??? any takers?????<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jimi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HAhahahahahahaha I like it. I had a .308 barrel chambered in .22lr shot negative 4 inch groups at 4000 yards. I used black powder/c4 mix and firecrackers as primers and itdidnt kick at all!!!

I believe tis a joke post guys....?

Jim</div></div>
 
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thanks for actually reading the post and the specs of the gun and realzing what i was trying to explain<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: larbhills</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you realize that .338 is larger than .30 and therefore you are full of shit? And no, the bullet is not going to expand enough to make a seal.

Just askin' </div></div>

As much as some of the stuff sounds odd to me, he did say "no its was a 338 lapua magnum barrel blank weight 6,, i had it fluted and tapered , drilled to .308 inside diamater 1 and 10 twist for the heavier rounds ,chamber for 30-06"

A 308 bullet doesn't need to expand much to fill a 308 bore.

Just sayin' </div></div>

He didn't say a .308 bore, he said .338 Lapua bbl.</div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Matt, why don't you respond to the clarifications of your Spec Ops, bullshit claims in your "new toy" thread in this forum section? </div></div>

Good for you
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks for actually reading the post and the specs of the gun and realzing what i was trying to explain<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: larbhills</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you realize that .338 is larger than .30 and therefore you are full of shit? And no, the bullet is not going to expand enough to make a seal.

Just askin' </div></div>

As much as some of the stuff sounds odd to me, he did say "no its was a 338 lapua magnum barrel blank weight 6,, i had it fluted and tapered , drilled to .308 inside diamater 1 and 10 twist for the heavier rounds ,chamber for 30-06"

A 308 bullet doesn't need to expand much to fill a 308 bore.

Just sayin' </div></div>

He didn't say a .308 bore, he said .338 Lapua bbl.</div></div> </div></div>

I think what he's trying to say is he got a round piece of stainless steel without a bore from hart that was the diameter of a 338 barrel. He then used his eye laser beams to cut a 308 bore (they do teach you how to shoot laser beams out of your eyes at super secret special forces sniper school, right?)

either way, you should know what things like barrel blanks are before you make these outrageous claims so the lies you tell will at least be plausible.
 
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Is that a 20 moa, 20 degree, or 20 inch base ? Is it canted, offset, or upset? Do you load H110 or H100v...or is it a custom mix? What is your COL for that 30-06? Do you jam it, jump to the lands, or skip it to the grooves? I can see you having some impressive results with a setup like that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">custom guy jim hall in Idaho falls,, has cancer though i hope he pulls through he still has my 96 mauser i dropped off to get a new hart barrel, timney match triger with side safety to , new back back to take off the old mauser flip safety, hs presicion stock that needs modified for the side saftey, leopold varx 3 gun for my wife so she can enjoy hunting and shooting besides she's taken over my 2 m-4's and my g-3 :(, and a m1 grand i bought from a buddy for $50.00 needs new barrel it was his dads service rifle in ww2 and he blew the gas ring out for the blow back piston. the barrel blank was threaded for 338 lapua that's y i had to have the action blue printed and trued he threaded the 338 lapua barrel blank on punch or drill out to .308 caliber chambered and turned for 30-06 springfield but a a little different necking on the round close to 30-06 springfield<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RWG818</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ya, you said its is a 338 barrel, that is chabered in 30-06. So you have a barrel that is .338 and a a bullet that is .308. and to boot your getting 2" groups at 1k. let me know the builder, ill take 2. That aint gonna fly straight at all. That bullet will bounce out of the barrel and be like

_________________
________________0 ---- Fu*#

I dont know shankster or the other guy, but someone is playing games RIght ? some </div></div> </div></div>

In the original post, you said a 338 lapua bbl, and chambered for 30-06. Where talkin about two diff bullet diameters. You also said it was threaded for a lapua, now im not up on my stats, but unless you have a action, with threads like that of a lapua it wont work anyway. But either way to this point, your saying, that its a bbl blank, WITHOUT a bore cut. So it really just a heavy blank. Im confused on this 338 part. If its not chambered, rifled or bored drilled, its a peice of steel or bar stock. Even more, again i dont claim to be a gunsmith, but because it was a 338 barrel from hart, is why you had the action trued and BB, and not to ensure everything is parallel and true to the bore?. Now to the chambering, you said you have had it chambered to 30-06 springfield, then its a little different neck, like that of a 30-06 springfield. Do you mean like an ackley with a diff shoulder.? So am i corrct to this point. You had a HARt bbl blank, bar stock, that your gunsmitihm bored out, and rifled, He re threded? or the lapus threads fit, and is chambered in 30-06 with a cutom neck? And if that is a true and corrct, it shoots 2" groups ad 1K. Now ill but all the bs aside. If your gunsmith can get you groups like that out of a cutom barrrel he broed and rifled, and has in a wood stock, give me his number and ill give him some work, and ill stop commenting on this topic.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no dead series lets go shooting and see who wins $50 dollars a shot at 1000 meteres play a game of texas hold um, or 3 card stud plus bets on each round or hand going arond make it interesting you shoot your draw cards at 1000m third party flips the 3 cards and bets inbetween and choose your through away cards by shooting them again??? any takers?????</div></div>

Ok I'll play.... lets raise it to $500 a shot on a 6" plate at 1k! Those hornady 180 SSt "match" has a G1 ballistic coefficient of .480 according to Hornady, whereas 185 Berger VLDs have a G1 of .549. What kind of muzzle velocity are you getting? like 4000 fps? What kind of brass, primer, etc do you use?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no dead series lets go shooting and see who wins $50 dollars a shot at 1000 meteres play a game of texas hold um, or 3 card stud plus bets on each round or hand going arond make it interesting you shoot your draw cards at 1000m third party flips the 3 cards and bets inbetween and choose your through away cards by shooting them again??? any takers</div></div>


When and where?
 
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my cases are made out of tungsten carbide so that they last longer.......hehehehe, and i use depleated uranium .22lr projectiles so that they buck the wind....forget this 1000 yard crap, i want to see some 4000 yrd groups.....?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RWG818</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ya, you said its is a 338 barrel, that is chabered in 30-06. So you have a barrel that is .338 and a a bullet that is .308. and to boot your getting 2" groups at 1k. let me know the builder, ill take 2. That aint gonna fly straight at all. That bullet will bounce out of the barrel and be like

_________________
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I dont know shankster or the other guy, but someone is playing games RIght ? some </div></div>


Obviously the projectiles are paper patched in case you need to take a 2,200 cold bore shot.
 
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Wow, I have so much to learn, Matt do you give private lessons? Ignore all the fools that doubt you, obviously they have not learned from the best. Tell Gecko 45 I said hi, the mall was never the same after he deployed for his TS duty.
 
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Matt1326 - You stated that you are "rated 100% disabled combat vet with 2 bronze stars and 4 purple hearts,, so what do you find so fkn funny about it ??????"
Fact is that only 35 Purple Stars have been been awarded to soilders with the last name Beck, and oddly, none have your first name.
I smell a poser. Dude, this site is viewed with people who might not have a sense of humor. Good luck with the meds. Just go away.

Source - http://www.thepurpleheart.com/recipient/
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 79M1a-texas</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Matt1326 - You stated that you are "rated 100% disabled combat vet with 2 bronze stars and 4 purple hearts,, so what do you find so fkn funny about it ??????"
Fact is that only 35 Purple Stars have been been awarded to soilders with the last name Beck, and oddly, none have your first name.
I smell a poser. Dude, this site is viewed with people who might not have a sense of humor. Good luck with the meds. Just go away. </div></div>

FWIW:

http://www.mamc.amedd.army.mil/PAO/Documents/ColorMount2009-04.pdf

http://img831.imageshack.us/i/beckgooglepurpleheart.png :: http://img411.imageshack.us/i/beckpurpleheart.png

He may well indeed have misrepresented his role in the military, but I won't abide inaccurate statements that can easily be disproved or for which strong evidence to the contrary exists.
 
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Wow just wow, I almost feel guilty getting a laugh from reading a thread started by Matt and then reading the comments posted, but I'll get over it. Matt just stop, I have no idea why you post such BS and then watch it get torn to shreds by guys with more knowledge in their trigger finger then you have in your partial brain. I'm 99% percent sure I am talking to a brick wall but do like me sit back, read, occasionally ask a question and learn.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matt1326</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hey i sent all the stuff you need to your personal email with dd-214 and some other pics orders of my purple hearts, and some other photos from the stans,, with a rifle and certain canadian that i was one of his spotters and he's a cop now ,, world's longest confirmed kill,, i would like to get a hyper link to the site i can get copies of my class photos from <span style="color: #FF0000">airborne ranger school</span> and sniper school the only class photo i know of for air assualt school was one we took cause it was a moab class in iraq </div></div>

Matt,

I'm going to make this as clear to you as I can. Sending your DD-214 to someone you don't know is about as dumb a thing you can do. Not to mention that having your picture taken holding a sniper rifle doesn't mean shit. Also, I did not see any confirmation on your DD-214 that you had graduated Ranger School.

Not to mention, there is no thing called "Airborne Ranger" school, which I highlighted red in your bullshit PM to make it crystal clear to you and anyone else reading this thread.

For the record, there is the Basic Airborne School, there is the Advanced Airborne (Jumpmaster) School, and there is the U.S. Army Ranger School. All three give graduation certificates. Ranger School in particular keeps not only extensive records on all that have ever attended but also class photos that are even posted online.

You've never been to <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="color: #3333FF">The</span></span></span> Ranger School, no Ranger School graduate who is still mentally capable of typing on a computer has ever forgotten their Ranger Class number and the crap that you are spewing is nothing short of lies.

You are a fraud, you deserve no ones respect and you are the kind of walking-talking Lie that screws over the rest of us Veterans. I will not waste anymore time on you or your fairy tales. Piss off, you're blocked.
 
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