I think this conversation went off the rails, but it started because of your initial comment about how women should be allowed in combat arms, after giving your glowing review of their performance in law enforcement. I incorrectly assumed you had no military service, since anyone who has and has been exposed to women in uniform almost universally shares my opinion about how absolutely ridiculous it is to claim that women belong in those roles. Your mos tells us that you weren't doing a combat arms job anyways, so you did 2 years in a quartermaster unit. That's about as relevant to many, many of the folks here who spend decades in combat arms as apples are to hand grenades. Your assessment of women in those positions is unrealistic, for many previously explained reasons. Your position on justifying their use of force by their gender is just about the most ridiculous thing you could have said. You're justifying use of force on their behalf because they are physically inferior to men. You've created an oxymoron in your own line of thought. I for one apologize for alluding to your lack of service, but I didn't understand your timeline. You could not determine your own fate as a draftee, so that's not a reason that anyone should attack you.... but this is the bear pit, and you came here willingly and entered the thunderdome, so you don't get to cry foul now. That's what this is. In summary, many of the people in this conversation have decades in combat arms and special operations, (exponentially more than you'd likely believe), and they watched with their own eyes, as did I, the destruction of the military efficacy because people who didn't know what they were talking about were making the same claims you've made here. You're wrong, plain and simple, but it's OK to be wrong, it happens to all of us.