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Remington 700 Alpha 1
- Thread starter warnera1102
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Still no word on price. I'm optimistic about it. It looks like the only inlet change needed vs a standard 700 is the magwell opening.
I think as long as the price is reasonable, theyve got a winner. It couldn't be worse than that piece of crap Daniel Defense bolt gun.
If these come in under $2k I would be impressed. If they maintain the high level required to be switch bolt and profit capable they would be a pretty good buy.
I was hopeful that the new ownership would be able to up the QC and give us modern cartridges and twist rates. I really hope this works out. More competition is a good thing.
I was hopeful that the new ownership would be able to up the QC and give us modern cartridges and twist rates. I really hope this works out. More competition is a good thing.
Sad part it you going to get an inferior barrel and probably need t change the inlet on a chassis or stock. For that kind of money an orgin and pre fit with a TT and a chassis is how I would go.
I can't speak for the new barrels, but remington barrels typically shot very well, yes, they put out a turd once in a while, but they were typically solid shooters.
Totally agree with you on that. I have a few older ones that have always shot well. Last 10 years was pretty iffy
The only barrels that stayed accurate for me after they got hot have been customs.
Maybe I was unlucky. My last and only 700 factory barrel was from around 2009.
There are some people if you give them $100 they are going to complain that it's not $101.
I hope they meet the expectations of this competitive market. They are a significant part of our shooting and hunting lifestyle/history, and it will be nice to see the company a heavy-weight contender again.
If they deliver as projected, time will build back that trust and respect.
I hope they meet the expectations of this competitive market. They are a significant part of our shooting and hunting lifestyle/history, and it will be nice to see the company a heavy-weight contender again.
If they deliver as projected, time will build back that trust and respect.
Are they tho? This is a completely different company with the same name.
I do want them to be successful but I also don't view anything they do as related to the remington of Olds achievements.
I do want them to be successful but I also don't view anything they do as related to the remington of Olds achievements.
Every factory 700 5R barrel I've shot has been a tack-driver. So I would remain optimistic about the new 5R barrels with updated twist rates.
I’m sorry if this comes off a bit harsh, but if the barrels and/or bolts can be swapped at will then twist rates of factory barrels are completely irrelevant. Take the factory barrel off and stash it somewhere if you want to save it for factory ammo. Then buy as many barrels as you want in whatever twist rate you desire for any handload recipe you can dream up
You must have never shot a factory Remington 5R barrel. I have quite a few. They're all 1 ragged-hole guns...100% stock, other than the triggers. Especially with handloads. So, the fact they're finally updating the twists to modern twist rates, means that you will no longer NEED to swap everything out like the old 700's. Even though that was also a matter of know-how, and not necessarily a must. I did have a few factory barrels I couldn't get to shoot, but overall, 90% of them had no issues getting to putting down cloverleafs with handloads and some very basic work that anyone can do.
Why would an ammo company bring that back?Nope. The SAUM is on a Remington based round, thank you very much.
It could definitely be user error. I just buy a box of 150G soft points every year, sight it in, and use it for deer hunting if the weather is good.
It is in 308 because factory ammo was the available (I didn't reload at the time). I am pretty sure I bought it before the 6.5CM hit it big.
$2400?.?.? At $1200-$1500 maybe a option after the early adopters get is and see if it actually works and shoot accurately. If it goes for anywhere near $2000 I am out. That's a origin, predit and KRG.
I'm interested but will wait for it to be out for a while and see what the verdict is and price. Right now with the f***ed up Biden economy I can only afford to shoot my Daisy Red Rider and Crossman 760 pump BB and pellet rifle I bought at Brendamoors 50 years ago.
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That’s still ridiculous. I could see MSRP at $1,500, and street prices being in the $1,250 range. I’d still be game for that price, but I can build a damn custom rifle with a Proof or Christensen CF barrel for $1,700…
Find a [relatively] cheap used 700 BDL, CDL, Sendero, Varmint, 5R, or any model with a decent factory HS stock & bottom metal setup, and have it basic blueprinted (simple squaring of the bolt & action faces), which is only a couple hundred bucks, and have a Proof barrel spun up for it. You’ll still be under $2K for sure.
I could do it for about $1,000 or less (depending on how much I can get the barrel for), since I was smart, and bought up a bunch of cheap 700’s back in the day, and got them fully-blueprinted and built into inexpensive (budget build) custom rifles way back when my smith’s prices were really affordable.
His prices are still extremely competitive, but just like with everything else, inflation happened. Plus, I can hand-deliver & pickup my parts after work and I don’t have to ship anything, since he only lives about an hour away from my house, which happens to be in the same town that I work in…So I’m always passing right by his house on my commute to and from work anyway.
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Bumping this thread instead of making a new one.
Looks like these are up on their website now. Specs look nice, depending on price and if they've gotten the QC back on track this rifle could be a winner.
I handled a new production 700 SPS Tactical a couple weeks ago that the dealer had just gotten in. I could really only look at the fit and finish and work the action a bit since it had a big giant trigger lock on it, but it was very nice. The action was very smooth, smoother than any R700 I ever owned including some late 90's and early 2000's rifles. They've upgraded the finish too, I don't know what it was but it wasn't that teflon trash that they had been using that basically flaked off.
Looks like these are up on their website now. Specs look nice, depending on price and if they've gotten the QC back on track this rifle could be a winner.
I handled a new production 700 SPS Tactical a couple weeks ago that the dealer had just gotten in. I could really only look at the fit and finish and work the action a bit since it had a big giant trigger lock on it, but it was very nice. The action was very smooth, smoother than any R700 I ever owned including some late 90's and early 2000's rifles. They've upgraded the finish too, I don't know what it was but it wasn't that teflon trash that they had been using that basically flaked off.
Judging by dealer cost a reasonable markup would put this at about $1850.
But it being the new hotness I'd expect most dealers to be at $2200.
But it being the new hotness I'd expect most dealers to be at $2200.
300 dollar mark up at $ 1850 . Dealers have different ideas on what is "reasonable" , time will tell .
$1850 is putting it at about a 18% markup. Which about normal.
Accessories usually run about 35-45 percent
Yeah, what is the name your shop? Most people in gun communitiy are pretty cool. If you're having to deal with lots of "assholes" it's prob from lack of communication or poor customer service, or you sell nothing but AI(lots of those guys are genuine assholes). Good luck with your "stupid penalty". I don't see that working out well for return customers, which is what owning a business is about.
There was a saying on a favorite show of mine that I tend to believe in. If you meet an asshole in the morning then you met an asshole. If you continually meet assholes all day long, then you're the asshole.
Bumping this thread because I just remembered about this rifle and thought I'd look to see if Remington indeed get smart after new ownership. It looks like they have not as they're still pushing 30-06, .270 & 7mm-08. Not that those aren't great calibers but they were very late to the game with the 6.5CM. You would think they'd get on the 6.5. 7mm & 300 PRC game...
They have the 6.5CM in all their current versions and most units feature the traditionally big sellers. I doubt the PRC's will be far behind.
This is definitely good news: "
There are three different versions of the Timney trigger we offer:
- Impact 700 Trigger – All Model 700s except for the Alpha 1 and Police.
- Elite Hunter Straight Trigger – Model 700 Alpha 1
- Elite Hunter Curved Trigger – Model 700 Police"
I see these will have faster twists like 1:8 for 7RM, good for the longer bullets but will they be throated longer too? If not it won't appear that it will help much. It would be nice to buy a reasonably priced, well made, accurate with modern bullets, off-the-shelf Remington 700.
