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Remington 700 Recall on X-Mark Pro Triggers
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Yeah just checked my serial on my new 700 action i got back in december, it's under the list. I'm sure my 5R is as well though i've never had a problem with it. What's all this crap about? I guess more or less gives me further motivation to move to a Huber.
Had a 700 which I think was in that date range but sold it several years ago. At one time I did have problems with the trigger and it did fire at the range when I took it off safety. I took it to a gunsmith and he fixed it. I don't remember what he did, but it never fired again with the safety. The firing pin was out of spec too. He put it on his lathe and peeled back about 50 thou if I remember correctly. No problems once he was finished with it.
I did call Remington at the time and they did tell me to send it in and they would look at it. I was not happy about that and they said then I should take it to a gunsmith, which is what I was thinking about doing. Like many of you guys, I didn't want to send it back, but I also didn't want any liability on me if something happened in the future and even more so now that I sold it. I believe I still have the receipt from the gunsmith for that work.
I did call Remington at the time and they did tell me to send it in and they would look at it. I was not happy about that and they said then I should take it to a gunsmith, which is what I was thinking about doing. Like many of you guys, I didn't want to send it back, but I also didn't want any liability on me if something happened in the future and even more so now that I sold it. I believe I still have the receipt from the gunsmith for that work.
I had a remington sps varmint that was supposed to ship from Buds Gun Shop today. They called and are sending them back to remington so I guess I'll have to wait who knows how long for them to get it back. Of course it was going into my new XLR chassis that arrives tomorrow 
Like hell I'm complying with this recall. I'll pay the $140 for a Timney before I'll spend six months (don't fool yourself, it'll be at least this long) without the rifle. As an aside, how long until all the aftermarket triggers are bought up? Considering this gun is only loaded once it is pointing down range, I think I might just keep using it. I'm sick of recalls on guns that "have faulty triggers". Faulty or not, I've got 600+ rounds downrange without any problems. I think I'll just carry on. And while I'm on this rant, how about demanding the gun be sent in for some top secret cleaning process, Remington gives up the info on what needs to be checked or done to make the triggers safe. Excess bonding material....pffft. End of rant.
A couple of things concern me:
1) Turn around time.
2) Removing and reinstalling accessories.
3) Having the firearm returned in the same condition as it was when sent.
1) Turn around time.
2) Removing and reinstalling accessories.
3) Having the firearm returned in the same condition as it was when sent.
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Just for shits and giggles, I checked the brand new 700P that I have to see if it is affected. Remington says that my rifle is affected. This rifle has a 40X trigger???
Looks like my 700ltr that I just bought is affected... After reading the comments on this site I think I will just replace the trigger. I don't want to be without my gun for 6 months or more...
...and it looks like Brownells and MidwayUSA are sold out of Timneys. I wonder why? (shakes head)
...and it looks like Brownells and MidwayUSA are sold out of Timneys. I wonder why? (shakes head)
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After a frustrating range trip this past Saturday with my Youtube modified XMP trigger I finally threw in the towel and ordered a Timney from Red Hawk Rifles (company had good reviews and it was the cheapest price I could find). They list Jewell and Timney but you might want to call and make sure the trigger you want is in stock. If they don't have what your looking for Amazon has some Timney 512's and Calvin Elites, price is kind of meh but at least they are in stock. The brilliant mind behind the X Mark Pro needs to be publicly flogged with Courtney Love's used tampon!
Was able to get one on the way from Red Hawk Rifles. They said they had 40 come in the other day so no backorder... Thanks for the direction Zuul.
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I had no problem ordering a 517 long sear version for my sps varmint from timney's actual website. Just a heads up in case people are finding them on back order.
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I have a 700P that was bought in March of this year and was told that it since it was a 700P...it had the XMP trigger. I called Remington about this recall and after running the S/N was told by the phone rep that since the weapon was manufactured in October of 2013 the rifle was in the number range for the subject recall. All the arrangements were made with the single phone call and at Remington's expense and my rifle was promptly on it's way within a few days. I was notified when Remington received the rifle and it was returned to me in just one day short of three weeks. Good service in my terms...the world was again right. Upon reading the work order and the technicians comment I was baffled. Seems the tech determined this 700P DID NOT have the XMP trigger and no action was taken and the rifle was returned like shipped. I called Remington this AM and talked to an actual tech who informed me that unfortunately Remington issued the recall by a number batch and that the original rep should have asked me if my weapon had a ribbed trigger (it does) before issuing a recall procedure. It seems that not all of these rifles have the XMP and that since my trigger was ribbed...I currently have the Remington 40X trigger. Mine should not have been subject to the recall.
Short version...question and confirm by a means other that a customer service rep that you do indeed have the XMP before shipping it. Your specific rifle might not be included.
Short version...question and confirm by a means other that a customer service rep that you do indeed have the XMP before shipping it. Your specific rifle might not be included.
Ran into same thing. Ordered direct from Timney yesterday. In the mail for delivery next week. $142 out the door..
Got that trigger last night and installed it with no problems. I am very pleased with the Timney.
Remington has had my SPS Tactical since April 30th. I sent them an email asking how long it might be before it comes back. I also asked if they could send it back without getting repaired if I signed a waiver. I just don't want to wait for several months. They never really addressed the waiver issue other than to say that they are starting to ship the recall rifles back out and based on my rifle's arrival date it could be back within the next few weeks. They were polite and asked nicely for my continued patience. They even said "Please give us a few more weeks." I'm just curious if anyone on here gotten theirs back yet?
I too was going to just replace my trigger, however I have sent back 8 rifles to date and to be fair, it was fairly painless. Remington mailed me shipping boxes and provided shipping labels and work orders via email. I was notified when they received my rifles and notified again when they return shipped. None of my rifles were in Remington's hands more than 1 1/2 weeks. Shipping each way was about a week at least, but other than having to remove, optics, accessories, etc. and re-zero after return, it wasn't that big a deal. Probably less than 1 month door to door. Certainly exceeded my expectations, since I too expected not to see them for a long time. In all fairness however, these were all actively deployed LE guns so I'm not sure if they got preferential treatment or higher priority.
Anybody else here send their rifles back? What was the turnaround time?
Anybody else here send their rifles back? What was the turnaround time?
That's good to know. Maybe mine will be quick too. Let us know how the trigger feels(pull weight, crep, etc.) when you get a chance to warm it up. I liked it before, but I'm certainly no expert.
Maybe Remington is banking on most owners NOT sending their rifles in, its a cost save for them.
I have one rifle that is affected by the recall but I have long swapped a lot of the factory parts. A replacement & bedded stock, 20 MOA base, bolt knob , MK4 scope and rings mounted and zeroed with a Timney trigger.
I would like to swap Remington my original trigger for a supposed updated one but its not worth sending a rifle that is set up and sighted in to do so.
Anyone ask a real person at Remington if you can just send them a trigger for replacement ?
I have one rifle that is affected by the recall but I have long swapped a lot of the factory parts. A replacement & bedded stock, 20 MOA base, bolt knob , MK4 scope and rings mounted and zeroed with a Timney trigger.
I would like to swap Remington my original trigger for a supposed updated one but its not worth sending a rifle that is set up and sighted in to do so.
Anyone ask a real person at Remington if you can just send them a trigger for replacement ?
I saw something on another forum where someone was allegedly told by Remington that they could just send in the trigger group for cleaning. I cannot verify that though. They have been pretty responsive to my e-mails though. You might get your answer that way. Just look for their service dept. contact e-mail on the Remington home page.
Still not gonna send mine in. I'll eventually swap in a Timney but till then not concerned about it in the least.
Yes, I asked and it was a firm "NO". Even though I'm a factory certified Remington armorer, they insisted that I send the rifles back. This may change eventually, but as of a couple weeks ago the only way to get the work done is to ship the rifle back.
Can you tell if it was the same trigger that they refurbished, or if they just replaced the whole assembly with a good one?
If our rifles were for recreational use, I'd do exactly that.
We had several thousand rounds without issue on our X Mark-Pro's, however the liability was too high to continue using them after Remington publicly announced the recall and requested that the old triggers not be used until serviced.
My personal rifles just got Timneys and the duty guns just might as well.
I figured as much and Remington is likely going to save a lot of time and money from people NOT sending their gun/s back.
I know I never will if required.
I've been happy with my trigger, in fact that and the bolt/receiver is the only things I have not replaced. I'm a little reluctant to send a customized rifle back and hope it comes back with all the mods. Guess I'll just buy and after market or install the old stile Remington trigger I have setting on my bench.
Got to add to the rant. I just want to make sure I have this right, they screwed up another trigger? First its the Walker, so our team starts getting them switched out. Got to convince the bosses they have to go, then got to tell them the new trigger is bad too. Remington LE promises a 5 day turn around on work guns but can't be trusted to send u the box to ship the gun. (we have yet to receive a single box) in the mean time can't use the rifle. $2000 Remington brand paperweights... On a personal note the only Remington part on my GAP custom is, wait for it, the trigger. Remington's answer is "send in the trigger only". After its sent they tell me they are not sure they will even work on it as its not on a remington rifle. (They told me that I had to send it; and that is was recalled even though it was on a GAP.) Of course they won't know if they will work on it until they get to it, and they say they have to deal with the triggers on a first come first serve basis so I have to wait who knows how long to find out they may do nothing... Enter GAP paperweight. After looking for days found Midwest Gun Works has timneys in stock. Got it yesterday and installed. Dont trust Remington with your rifles boys, their 0 for 2, what are the chances they will get it right this time. It should be noted GAP has since told me that Remington triggers on their rifles aren't subject to the recall. Unfortunately Remington disagrees and with my personal rifle being used for work the liability of keeping the Remington trigger in spite of the recall is too high.
I believe it has changed. This is a quote from a Remington email "You can send just the triggers in for the service, but when they are returned to you there will be a legal form stating that the triggers where serviced but unable to test fire. I will send the return packet to your email address."
talked to rem c/s at 905 am on 6/10 talked with a guy called Red they want the whole rifle back so they can test fire. I gave in and requested the return label and box I am putting a 2x4 with a piece of pipe taped to it in the box and giving it back. This would have been the 2nd time my trigger was worked on. The timney on the way
The whole thing gives me a headache. I found out about the recall from a forum (why do I register with manufacturers?), I contact, get labels quickly, boxes weeks later (unannounced) with no spec as to how long this will all take. Instructions say, remove all attachments (scopes, rings, etc) put in box, send, await outcome.
After 7.25 minutes pondering, I order Timney replacements and follow with gunsmiths. Next rifle is an AI. BTW, I stopped in at MHSA today. I had gotten a Rem 5R there with AICS chassis last year...these guys are terrific as to supply, service, customer orientation and experience. Thanks, Dave and see you shortly for follow-up.
Cheers,
Harry
PS- and a shout-out to Timney Triggers for excellent customer service. I ordered replacement triggers, followed up with an e-m specifying rifles, preferred trigger weights, etc. They sent the right Long-Sear Triggers, carefully marked, for my SPS-Varmints and regular for my hunting rifle and 5R and adjusted to correct pull weight. They do an excellent job of customer service and I recommend them as I do MHSA.
FH
After 7.25 minutes pondering, I order Timney replacements and follow with gunsmiths. Next rifle is an AI. BTW, I stopped in at MHSA today. I had gotten a Rem 5R there with AICS chassis last year...these guys are terrific as to supply, service, customer orientation and experience. Thanks, Dave and see you shortly for follow-up.
Cheers,
Harry
PS- and a shout-out to Timney Triggers for excellent customer service. I ordered replacement triggers, followed up with an e-m specifying rifles, preferred trigger weights, etc. They sent the right Long-Sear Triggers, carefully marked, for my SPS-Varmints and regular for my hunting rifle and 5R and adjusted to correct pull weight. They do an excellent job of customer service and I recommend them as I do MHSA.
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Got a new Rem .308 and I've been lurking here at the Hide for a couple of months now. I didn't even fire the XMP triger a single time before I ordered a Timney - and I didn't know about the recall either. I had to back the adjustment screw out so far that it was protruding from the trigger shoe way too far - and the pull weight still sucked!
Ordered a Timney straight from the manufacturer and they set it at 1.5lbs for me. I would have gotten the Calvin Elite at 8oz, but this rifle doubles as a deer/elk rifle and I don't need an 8oz trigger when my hands are that cold with a glove on.
Honestly, even if there was no recall or safety issue with the XMP - I would highly recommend trashing it. I thought of having a Rem Authorized Service Center replace it for me, but I'd have to drive 2 hours to Oregon, and all I would want them to do is put an old style Rem trigger in it for a spare part - and then put my Timney back in it.
XMP is junk.
Ordered a Timney straight from the manufacturer and they set it at 1.5lbs for me. I would have gotten the Calvin Elite at 8oz, but this rifle doubles as a deer/elk rifle and I don't need an 8oz trigger when my hands are that cold with a glove on.
Honestly, even if there was no recall or safety issue with the XMP - I would highly recommend trashing it. I thought of having a Rem Authorized Service Center replace it for me, but I'd have to drive 2 hours to Oregon, and all I would want them to do is put an old style Rem trigger in it for a spare part - and then put my Timney back in it.
XMP is junk.
I just got a box from Remington, no return label. They make a shitty trigger and they want you to pay to send it back, fuck that I'll save the money and put it towards a Timney Trigger. Besides who knows what shit trigger they are going to replace their shit trigger with anyway....
My rifle is included in this recall. After checking the serial number and filling out the form on line, I received shipping labels and instructions on how to pack the box that will arrive within the next few days. Yesterday I received an email stating the box was shipped and will arrive in five to seven days.
I will return my rifle for the recall and will take plenty of pictures to ensure all parts return.
Updates as major things happen.
I will return my rifle for the recall and will take plenty of pictures to ensure all parts return.
Updates as major things happen.
+1 on timney customer service. Got the 512 installed. Had a couple light primer strikes. Called timney, replacing the sear with long sear at no charge. Those guys rock.
I received an email stating the return box was on the way to me...I replied to save the box,I had already replaced the trigger...they informed me to just return the faulty trigger for repair or replacement...of course,the big box still showed up...I just taped the trigger and contact information to the inside of the box...
They might think the box is empty,who knows...
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UPS dropped the box off yesterday. I might need to rethink my shipping options or just get a new trigger.
Wonder what would have happened had a rifle been in that box.
My rifle is due to arrive back today. I shipped it out on April 30th, so Remington had it about 6 weeks. I'm fairly pleased about the turnaound time. I'll look everything over and let you all know how it shoots once I get it all put back together and sighted in.
Nothing short of a Pelican case will protect your stuff when it's in the hands of UPS or Fedex
Just got off the phone with CS, minimum 12 weeks turn around. BS, I should have went with the Timney.
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