Remington 700 SPS Tactical or Savage Model 10 "T" tactical?

[Nutro]

Both are .308


Savage:

Tactical bolt handle
Accu-Stock
Accu-Trigger
24" Bull Barrel (I'll probably have the barrel cut to 20" and threaded)
5R poly rifling
20MOA EGW scope rail
Detachable mag
$500

Rem 700 Tactical:

20" Bull barrel
Pro trigger
Hogue overmold stock
Hinged floor plate

$600

 

[shooter1054]

I'm a fan of Savage. Not a Rem fan. Not that I really think that there is anything wrong with Rem. I've shot a few and just haven't been able to see the hype. I have a Savage 110 338LM and have a buddy that has a Savage 11 in 243. Both are excellent out of the box rifles. I am considering replacing my T/C Venture 243 with a Savage. That's all I got.

 

[BoilerUP]

Look for a 10P-SR...

 

[blfuller]

There's a Savage model 10 TR that has the 20" threaded barrel and all the other things you are looking at that would save you from having to cut the barrel down. There's some info HERE on it.

I think the Savage would be better for out of the box accuracy and bang for the buck. The Hogue stock on the Remington is probably not as good due to the flexibility of the forearm. I personally went with the Savage.

 

[Mayhem52]

I recently owned a Remington 700 SPS Tactical in .308. I owned it for two weeks and put it up for sale. There wass nothing I found to like about the SPS Tactical. Get the Savage. Better still, save up a few more scheckles and get the rifle you would like to have.

 

[Randoman5]

I debated the Savage vs. Remington question for over a year. I ended up going with a Remington because the bolt feels a lot better and I like the way it looks more. Seems like with Savage they are slightly more likely to be more accurate out of the box and you can switch the barrels yourself.

I've tried out accutriggers and I like them, but every X-Mark I've tried has been just as good. I love the one on my rifle. The stocks that come with both are really kind of useless to me ergonomically, but that's very subjective.

Based purely on anecdotal evidence there seems to be very little difference between them functionally.

 

[Hook Creek]

I have owned Remingtons and I have owned Savages, both in .308 winchester. To make a long story short, I now only own Remingtons with the exception of my mark II TR .22.

 

[BoilerUP]

The big downside to a factory new Savage, especially the newer models with DBM/ bottom bolt release/smooth barrel nut, is a serious lack of mid-priced aftermarket stocks (Bell & Carlson); you're almost certainly going to need to step directly into a special-ordered McMillan or Manners. Also, if you want to swap barrels you'll have to rig up some way to get the smooth barrel nut off and replace it with a grooved nut. The upside is the Accustock is pretty decent, but its ergos aren't for everybody.

With a Remington, you can easily choose your preferred model Medalist to replace the craptastic Hogue for $250 or less or choose from a number of chassis options or ready-made Manners/McMillan stocks.

Savage can't seem to help but change shit every year or two, which contributes to a smaller aftermarket. It does seem, however, that the DBM/bottom bolt release is the future and hopefully B&C will start offering the M40 or Light Tactical for Savage in the near future.

I personally prefer the Accutrigger to the X-Mark Pro, but there is no getting around a 700 bolt feeling nicer than a Savage bolt. I have found Savages that have had the cocking pin lubricated & the bolt cycled a few thousand times feel SUBSTANTIALLY better than new, while a couple hundred times on a new 700 feels a little smoother than new and doesn't get much better after that.

Its a Ford/Chevy thing...either rifle should be more than capable of good accuracy.

 

[Chemguy]

I had that model of Remington. Even with hand loading I couldn't get it to shoot under an inch.

Every savage I have will shoot under an inch with the write factory fodder. Hand loads got the groups down even further.

 

[Deerhunter 28]

I have the Savage HS in .308.
It is very accurate out of the box.
The HS stock will out perform the Tupperware type stock you are referring to.
I would go with the HS savage or Rem with a HS stock.
Just my $.02 cents


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[Jackcrow73]

To comment on a few things that have been brought up; the action does smooth out quite a bit after it has been cycled a few hundred times. It may not ever be really smooth, but it isn't bad. I like the ability to swap barrels on my own. As for the smooth barrel nut, I used a pipe wrench. It messes up the exterior of the nut but you will replace it with a regular one anyway. There really isn't a mid priced stock that is made for the savage, but you really step up in quality when you go to a Mcmillan, Manners, Mcree, XLR, AICS, etc. Also, you can get a 10 round mag for it using the standard bottom metal.


Just my thoughts.

 

[LongArm]

Savage. You can do more work on it yourself and that is the best part, not having to pay to have it worked on. Accuracy is better as well.

 

[SpookM14]

I found that the accuracy from my savage was amazing right out of the box. With FGMM ammo I am below the 1 MOA line even out to 600 yards. I am currently having issues with it getting down low enough on paper at 100. Currently my scope is bottoming out at 24 inches high at 100 meters which means I have a nice 400 yard zero. Unfortunately I don't want that and would like to have a 200 yard zero. I also found that when I do cycle the bolt on my savage it locks up the accutrigger when done too fast. I would like to cycle the weapon as fast as possible without any hiccups. This has been an issue that I have heard is common so I guess it will have to get sent back to savage for repair or replacement.
I however own a Remmy 700 in the SPS tactical in 223 for a dog gun. The first thing I did was switch stocks and it shoots around 1 MOA with bulk AE 223 55 grainers. I do hate the X Pro triggers though. They say that they are adjustable but that's only if you like the adjustment screw stabbing you in the finger and even then it's not light enough for my liking. I have grown up with Remington's so it makes it hard to go over to another type of rifle. However I have grown to love my rugers as hunting rifles because of their reliability and overall strength of the rifle.
After all that being said I love the cosmetics of the Remington's for varmint/tacticool rifles, but savages for me have shot better right out of the box. I would go with a savage if you want accuracy now and if you have no problems with a fat ass bolt action.

 

[p5200]

I removed the stock and was able to loosen the pull weight screw on the inside pretty easily so the external trigger screw, could be screwed in so it didn't stick out and used both, screws to get the trigger like I wanted. On my Lyman digital scale it measures a little over 2lbs pull weight and the break is very crisp.

 

[NateB]

Look for the savage 10tr in a 20 inch barrel. I was in the same spot as you and tracked one down. Lot of gun for the money

 

[Aimsmall55]

Remington as we know is heads or tails. Some will shoot some wont. I don't own a savage but my father has some that SHOOT. I'm more of a Remington man simply because "clone" upgrades are easy to come by. I have the SPS Tac .308 and with 168 amax on top of varget it's a stone cold killer for woods hunting. Also the 168 vld. I will admit I bedded the recoil lug and have the rear action screw a good bitter looser than the front. This keeps it from contacting the houge towards the front of the barrel channel. I've taken it out to 930 yards just for the hell of it and I was very surprised at how well it did.

Just my 2 cents.....

 

[Rhyno]

Owned both brands.

The first rifle I owned was a Savage chambered in 25-06, it failed on me with federal blue box hunting rounds a week before hunting season. I'm not sure what happened but I'm fairly sure I either had chamber issues or a extremely short throat, had to use a hammer to get the bolt open, and the extractor was messed up, and the primer came out.

My, mother owns a Savage in 243 that experienced the same issue.

But then again I've owned other Savages, and know others that have owned plenty that work perfectly fine.

The current Remington 700 I have hasn't given me any issues, nor has any other Remington firearm I've owned.

I'm personally a fan of the r700 over the Savage model 10,but both are pretty good for what they are, you really can't go wrong with either. Both will need new stocks and new triggers (IMO, I dislike the accutrigger I've had it fail on me with gloves and when it's set to low.)

Get your hands on both and try them out, see if you can cycle the bolt and fire them.

 

[Hunt4life]

I found that the accuracy from my savage was amazing right out of the box. With FGMM ammo I am below the 1 MOA line even out to 600 yards. I am currently having issues with it getting down low enough on paper at 100. Currently my scope is bottoming out at 24 inches high at 100 meters which means I have a nice 400 yard zero. Unfortunately I don't want that and would like to have a 200 yard zero. I also found that when I do cycle the bolt on my savage it locks up the accutrigger when done too fast. I would like to cycle the weapon as fast as possible without any hiccups. This has been an issue that I have heard is common so I guess it will have to get sent back to savage for repair or replacement.
I however own a Remmy 700 in the SPS tactical in 223 for a dog gun. The first thing I did was switch stocks and it shoots around 1 MOA with bulk AE 223 55 grainers. I do hate the X Pro triggers though. They say that they are adjustable but that's only if you like the adjustment screw stabbing you in the finger and even then it's not light enough for my liking. I have grown up with Remington's so it makes it hard to go over to another type of rifle. However I have grown to love my rugers as hunting rifles because of their reliability and overall strength of the rifle.
After all that being said I love the cosmetics of the Remington's for varmint/tacticool rifles, but savages for me have shot better right out of the box. I would go with a savage if you want accuracy now and if you have no problems with a fat ass bolt action.

Have you got the right base on it? There are two styles, flat and rounded top. The new ones with ACC trigger are rounded tops and if you put a flat on it, it will be about a 40-45 Moa cant.

 

[Hunt4life]

To the op, I am savage or custom action all the way now. Love savages, and they are so easy to rebarrel without waiting long or spending much. There is more than adequate aftermarket parts.

 

[SpookM14]

The scope base is the correct one. I have a weaver base with 20 MOA and an EGW base with 0 MOA and it seems the one I'm having the fit about is the EGW that I was told was a reputable brand. Ill switch bases and rings and see if that helps.

 

[Nutro]

Look for the savage 10tr in a 20 inch barrel. I was in the same spot as you and tracked one down. Lot of gun for the money

That gun is literally rarer than Hens teeth. I finally gave up after a month of hardcore searching. Nobody has them, nobody is getting them and IF you can find one, they are asking stupid prices for them.

 

[cal50]

The Remmy over the Salvage.
(Biased opinion from a 700 Tactical owner)

Savage makes nice stuff so its a Ford / Chevy moment for selection. The Savage for sure if you want to swap barrels yourself.

 

[346ci]

I used to be a big remy fan, after their FG buy out, the new stuff went to shit. Sold all of my remy stuff a few years back.

When I was in the market for a new bolt gun, I tried out a Savage 10PC in .308 and have been sold ever since. A overall better built rifle, better features, easy to work on, aftermarket support is good now and growing.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I own multiple rifles from the three big manufacturers, if ya had to pick one, get the Savage, it will out shoot any other factory rifle out of the box with the Winny not far behind. Aftermarket support and ease of working on them yourself instead of waiting for a year for a gunsmith is a huge plus for the Savage.

 

[Tjsr19]

I have owned Remingtons and I have owned Savages, both in .308 winchester. To make a long story short, I now only own Remingtons with the exception of my mark II TR .22.

This is exactly! Where I am at. I love my mk2 but that is the only savage I have kept.

 

[NateB]

That gun is literally rarer than Hens teeth. I finally gave up after a month of hardcore searching. Nobody has them, nobody is getting them and IF you can find one, they are asking stupid prices for them.

I got mine at heritage guild in Allentown pa. 534 out the door they may have another

 

[Rhyno]

I used to be a big remy fan, after their FG buy out, the new stuff went to shit. Sold all of my remy stuff a few years back.

When I was in the market for a new bolt gun, I tried out a Savage 10PC in .308 and have been sold ever since. A overall better built rifle, better features, easy to work on, aftermarket support is good now and growing.

So, you sold all your good Remington because the new ones suck?

 

[Nutro]

I got mine at heritage guild in Allentown pa. 534 out the door they may have another

Got a working phone bumber for them? The one on the website rings, asks department then goes to a fax beep.

 

[Nutro]

Nevermind. Got through. They don't have any but thanks nan.

 

[NateB]

Well that confirms it. I must have got hte last one on the planet