This thread i made more to just warn anyone who ever thought of buying this ammo away from getting it. Today I went to my local ammo store and picked up a pack of 500 of remington's thunder bolt 22lr ammo figuring it might be a little better than bulk at almost the same price. I was wrong by a long shot. My 10/22 usually chews up and spits out bulk like a champ but not this junk. about every 2-3 rounds it would either not fire, not eject, or fumble and jam in the receiver. Unfortunately like i said i bought 500 rounds of the stuff so between my 10/22 and my walther p22 i maybe went through 1/3 of it and i may just use the rest just for my remington bolt action 22 maybe that will be better but do not buy this ammo and if you got any good info on cheap but reliable 22lr ammo im all ears.