Remington vs Savage Action

[Phil3]

This topic may have been covered before, and if so, please point me in the right direction.

What are the pros and cons of the Remington 700 and Savage actions? Why might I prefer one over the other, in factory rifle and or standalone for a rifle to built around? Rifle will be mostly a bench gun, with some trips into the wildernness. Rounds choices may include 223, 308, 260 Remington, and/or 6mmBR.

Thanks.

- Phil

 

[sinarms]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

You are going to have people swear Remingtons are the best and that Savages are the best then you will have a guy coming in from left field saying Tikka is a better rifle. I like Savage because you can build them yourself and they are accurate. most are sub moa out of the box. Remington has made a good rifle before and so has a lot of others. It all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.

 

[coulthard_west]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

they are both awesome rifles. they both shoot good from the factory. remington has more after market accesories but savage is catching up. i personally have a savage 10fp and have a krieger barrel on it now. ( wore the factory one out). in the end it is all what u want

 

[arnygollott3]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

LOTS of aftermarket for the Remington although there is a fair amount for the Savage as well, I think most would agree that Savage has fair to good out of the box accuracy, probably on AVERAGE better than Remington, certainly not always.

I particulary like the relative ease that one can swap a barrel on a Savage and I love their accu trigger on the newer models and they are usually cheaper, but their STOCKS suck except on some of the newer models.

Just my two cents and it probably aint worth that!

Remington is proven, and seems to be 'the standard' for a good reason..

I have both, I love both...really cannot go wrong with either.

 

[CL1KKL4C]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

I had this same dilemma when choosing my rifle. The option to swap my own barrel tipped the scales to favor the savage for me. Seeing as you intend this to be a bench gun, and may try several different chambers maybe the savage with the barrel nut is what your looking for. I'm sure the 700 is on the same level as the savage, both rifles have great reputations. Which ever you choose, you'll be pleased.

 

[Phil3]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Thanks. I am leaning to the Savage (Long Range Precision Varminter). Considering the 223 Remington and then switch out later to a custom barrel in 6mmBR (when my reloading stuff is all done for that round). That, with perhaps a McMillan A-5 stock, should permit some pretty accurate shots.

Or maybe just build a 6mmBR now, using a Savage action, and the McMillan stock. ???

- Phil

 

[Erik Cortina]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CL1KKL4C</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
.... I'm sure the 700 is on the same level as the savage, both rifles have great reputations.....</div></div>

LMAO, you must mean the Savage is on the same level as the Remington.

Remington offers the most options for a custom built rifle and is what aftermarket manufacturers offer their best products for right off the bat. Don't forget that there are quite a few CUSTOM actions cloned from the Remington 700. There must be a reason, don't you think?

I've said this before and I'll say it again, if you think all the custom action builders are wrong, get a Savage, else get a Remington!

Just my $.02

-X3M

 

[CL1KKL4C]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

ahem.. Like I said before Phil which ever rifle you choose I'm sure you'll be happy with it.

What ever rifle you end up with, please try and refrain from fornicating with it.

 

[sinarms]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

I guess mauser, winchester, weatherby, sako, tikka, ect are junk because they do not copy remington. If you get a savage you will be quite happy with it, if you get a remington you should be happy with it, if your not lucky there are tons of stuff to buy for it to get it shooting the way you want.

 

[1shot2kill]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

if you plan on buying a entry level heavy barrel rifle then building it up to tricked out then buy the remington
but if you want to very little mods or none get the savage that is my .02

 

[okiefired]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

For me, it all boils down to this. There's no doubt Savage builds great rifles TODAY, its been proven many times. There's also no doubt Remington has FOR YEARS built great rifles. Its just hard for me to become such a big Savage fan when they sold such complete junk for so many years. Swaping barrels is a big plus but just not enough to erase all the sins of the past. Kinda stupid I guess but thats the way I feel. I applaud Savage for what they've done recently but I think I'll just stick to my Remmy's for now.


To the OP, trying to be objective, I'd probably go with Remington just because of parts availability and the fact that more smiths prefere to work on them. Guess Savage has made great strides here too though.

okie

 

[CL1KKL4C]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

sry gonna veer a little off topic here. But arn't most modern bolt action rifles based off the Mauser 98 design? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that somewhere or caught it on the history channel

 

[Benchshoot]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

I like them both, I had a savage model 10FP that shot great. I have a couple of Remington's that I like just a little better.

 

[johngfoster]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

I'm more of a Remington snob. Their action just seems more "refined" to me. Savage makes a great shooting rifle and it's affordable. I just like Remington actions better. Personal preference is what it boils down to. Kinda like a BMW M3 compared to a Corvette.

 

[AK10mm]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CL1KKL4C</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sry gonna veer a little off topic here. But arn't most modern bolt action rifles based off the Mauser 98 design? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that somewhere or caught it on the history channel </div></div>

What is your point?

 

[Armed Ferret]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

My wife has a .243 Savage center-feed, and if I could do it over again I'd have bought her a 700 off the bat.

Savages shoot great, but getting the rounds into the magazine can be a chore unlike any other, not to mention the fact it typically RARELY picks up the last round in the magazine when cycling. One has to VERY VERY deliberately push upward on the bolt handle when cycling (to force the bolt head downward a bit) to help it pick up the last round in the magazine.

Thankfully, she's only ever needed the round in the chamber to kill what she's aiming at.

 

[CL1KKL4C]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SANDRAT</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CL1KKL4C</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sry gonna veer a little off topic here. But arn't most modern bolt action rifles based off the Mauser 98 design? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that somewhere or caught it on the history channel </div></div>

What is your point?
</div></div>

Maybe he should just get the 98 and call it good

 

[Phil3]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johngfoster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm more of a Remington snob. Their action just seems more "refined" to me. Savage makes a great shooting rifle and it's affordable. I just like Remington actions better. Personal preference is what it boils down to. Kinda like a BMW M3 compared to a Corvette. </div></div>

Hmmmm....I drive a BMW M3, so maybe I am a Remington man! - Phil

 

[azerious85]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CL1KKL4C</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SANDRAT</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CL1KKL4C</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sry gonna veer a little off topic here. But arn't most modern bolt action rifles based off the Mauser 98 design? I could be mistaken but I thought I read that somewhere or caught it on the history channel </div></div>

What is your point?
</div></div>

Maybe he should just get the 98 and call it good

</div></div>


i concur captain

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

I prefer Remington, but there is nothing wrong with Savage.

I cut my teeth on Remington (first rifle was a Remington 581). I carried a custom 700 in some NASTY places and never had one fail. When it came time for me to choose a personal rifle it was a simple choice.

I also just prefer the way the 700 action feels.

I will eventually have a Savage (centerfire) in the collection. I currently have a Savage MkII .22LR and a Savage Cub as training rifles for me and the boys. I like the value they offer, but with the centerfire rifles the price is usually too close to Remington for me not to go with what I know.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Almost every aftermarket bolt action receiver is based on the Remington design, KISS and is very effective, Remington receivers are in service with our Military, a Remington based receiver has won every match at one time, and has probably killed everykind of animal on the planet, there is only one reason I can see to own a Savage, price.

 

[wallstdevil]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

The Savage prices are not that much cheaper than the Remington to consider anymore. I have both and I like the remington action over the savage. Remington action is alittle smoother, savage is alittle more accurate of the box. I also like the the accutrigger on the savage vs the x mark pro. The thing that make me lean toward the savage is the ease of customizing. But if you going to do alot of customizing by a gunsmith, I say Remington.

 

[ubet]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

You could just buy the savage action, have the barrel you want built, then a stock made for it and be ready to go. I have a savage 12 and it shoots great. The action isnt quit as smooth as a remington though. But I TRUST my weapon, and for me that is paramount (well next to accuracy, guess they go hand in hand though too), never once has it failed. The after market parts are a little rarer, but you just have to search and can usually find what you want.
Good Luck

 

[Tip em over]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Performance wise, It's probably the nut behind the trigger more than anything.
Remington actions will have a higher resale value down the road is about the only difference I can tell.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Life is too short to own a Savage!

Here's how I look at it. If there was an ugly woman (Savage) and a pretty woman (Remington) that could satisfy a man equally, which one would you pick or show off to your friends?
Most people would pick the pretty one, eventhough it costs more money. LOL

 

[HotIce]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Owning a few Savages and owning a shrinking collection or Remington 700 actions, this is what I think.

Trigger. The Savage AccuTrigger is pretty nice <span style="text-decoration: underline">out of the box</span>. The Remington trigger <span style="text-decoration: underline">can become</span> nice, if handed over to a competent smith. The Remington 700 trigger worked over by George is one of the best (for my taste) I ever tried.

Smoothness. They vary from action to action, but IMO they're on the same boilerplate. The new Savage Target Action is pretty darn smooth, way better of all the other stock Remington and Savage actions I tried.

Feeding. I've been told (none of mine did) some Savage can have feeding problems, but this is AFAIK not an action problem. A five minutes DIY fix to the bottom metal is known to have fixed those feeding problems. None of the Remington I tried had feeding problems.

DIY barrel change. This is IMO a great feature. For the ones that consider the action cost of ownership, consider what three trips to a smith for a barrel swap costs, on an M700.

Accuracy. IMO is what sits in front of the action that is responsible for a very large part of the accuracy. In my experience they both vary from rifle to rifle, with average pretty good accuracy in both cases.

Availability. You can go buy a Savage action, and start from there. For Remington, thanks to the new company policy, you have to chase cheap used (or even new) rifles, and throw away everything but the action.

This is why I'm now left with only one <span style="text-decoration: underline">Remington</span> action, with the other M700 footprint ones, being the better built "clones" like Templar, Pierce & Co.
For $800-900 you can get an action that is better build, need no trueing, better fit & finish, and no more bid races on GunBroker

 

[CL1KKL4C]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: X3M Hunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Life is too short to own a Savage!

Here's how I look at it. If there was an ugly woman (Savage) and a pretty woman (Remington) that could satisfy a man equally, which one would you pick or show off to your friends?
Most people would pick the pretty one, eventhough it costs more money. LOL </div></div>

lol. looks like we got a new one for the motivational poster thread "SAVAGE. ugly chicks need love too"

but if you got the dough for an m3 Phil why not just get in line for one of the ever so sexy GAP's...even tho they are remington based

now that, I'm sure you would never regret.

 

[canuck]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Hahaha I love this thread, every time it pops up. Here's what it boils down to: everyone loves their gun once its theirs. Once they've made it theirs. It doesn't matter what barreled action you get, whether Remmy, Savage, Winchester, etc. Because as you advance you'll inevitably rebarrell, change out the trigger, drop it in a different stock, and get some smithing done (if you're smart). By the time you've finished investing it making it yours, and spending some decent dough on training and range time, it won't matter worth two shits what you're shooting.

As Mike has said to me many times, "It's the indian and not the arrow."

P.S. This is where the GAP, AI, and TR owners pipe up and say they don't need to change anything about their $3000 guns.

 

[okiefired]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Canuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Here's what it boils down to: everyone loves their gun once its theirs. </div></div>

IMO, this is one of the best statements made in this thread. This also especially holds true with many of the "which scope is best" threads. A lot of us want to defend our decision to buy whatever we did weather we really believe what we're saying or not. Fact is, 90% of us aren't even capable of realizing the diference between two high quality pieces of gear. I understand the OP asked for opinions and I'm glad many of us give honest ones, but these theads inevitably turn into shit slingin competitions. Buy what you want, have fun with it and quit trying to make everyone think you know the most and use the best. Like I said, JMO.

okie

 

[z71rat]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Opinions are definately what ends up being the stake holder in the claims to fame. So here is mine...

I have owned many different rifles... Remington, FN, Howa, Savage, Winchester, Marlin. I can honestly say that while I had most of them, I thought they were the best thing since sliced bread. However, working with the Savage 10FP that I own now, and knowing how it shoots with factory ammo, and nothing done to it more than some trigger modifications... it is hands down the most accurate and reliable bolt rifle that I have ever owned.

So throw another mark on the score card for Savage.

DK

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Savage nut I am. It's about the nut, Man...

Savage listens. We ask, we get.

We bitched about the trgger. We got the Accue-Trigger. We bitched about the stock. We got the accue-Stock. We wanted OOB comp guns, we got the F Class and the Palma. We wanted precision, custom actions. We got 'em.

I've run out of things to ask about... (well..., maybe a 10rd DM...)

Greg

 

[Keith Johns]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Every action/rifle has it's pros and cons.

If you've fully stripped a savage you see that it's a lego gun. There's twice as many(or more) parts to the bolt than with a 700. This *could* mean that it's easier to change parts. This also *could* mean there's more to go wrong.

Both actions are cheap compared to all others. This is because both companies have loosened tolerances, and simplified manufacturing processes to make them cheap/fast to produce. Neither has an integral lug. Neither has a true saftey(just a trigger saftey).
The Savage is alittle more complicated to do simple functions like removing the bolt. The triggers are nothing special unless you get an aftermarket. Remington X-marks are nothing to brag on though. I think both need a trigger replacement out of the box.

Savages have far less Tacticool toys for them than Remys.

It's a matter of preference. One of my Gunsmithing instructors, that knows Savages very well, thinks they are the best "out of the box".
I'd never own one having seen how they work.

Just my opinion

 

[Keith Johns]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

If your never going to spend over $1000 on your rifle, either will do. If you think you want to dump thousands into it eventually, you might want something people prefer to work on. Notice how many 700 smiths there are compared to everything else....

 

[Falar]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Savage nut I am. It's about the nut, Man...

Savage listens. We ask, we get.

We bitched about the trgger. We got the Accue-Trigger. We bitched about the stock. We got the accue-Stock. We wanted OOB comp guns, we got the F Class and the Palma. We wanted precision, custom actions. We got 'em.

I've run out of things to ask about... (well..., maybe a 10rd DM...)

Greg </div></div>

Sharp Shooter Supply had 9rd detachable mags for the new DBM Savages that use .308 based cartridges. Not quite 10 but it is something. On the SSS page it mentions they are working on something for the .30-06 and .223 based cartridges but who knows how long it has said that and when/if they'll come out.

 

[desertrat1979]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Here is another comparison. I am a car guy. I go to car shows and the dragstrip. You dont have to like cars to know the GM vs Ford vs Dodge vs....ect debates. Here is a situation I saw at a show. No rules limiting entries, anyone can enter. So in comes a (then) brand new 2002 Pontiac TA, yellow, collectors edition. Absoulutly awesome car, as it should be for $36k, and it still had the dealer sticker on the window as it was purchased that day. Guy pulled in, and put it in the show. I will not in any way take away that that is a beutiful car I would love to own. A few cars down I had my car,a 1991 Camaro. I got about 15k invested in paint and body work, interior, wheels, and a whole slew of other stuff. I did most of the work myself. But, I would not give my car up in trade for the TA or any other car. In fact my car can either keep up with or out perform a lot of the newer expensive cars in many aspects not just speed. But was his better than mine? Should he get a prize for dropping 36k? Point I am trying to make here is some folks want to buy a rifle cheap, put time and work into it and see results for their labor and effort. Others buy a very pricey rifle/action to eliminate the need to do any work, or likes the "look at me" factor. When all is said and done they both think that the have the "best" because one put his "best" time and effort into building it, the other put his "best" money into having it built. I do not see the diffrence if they both perform the same, all I see is what I can afford.

 

[cinosbus]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I also just prefer the way the 700 action feels. </div></div>

+1

Handle both of them, work the bolt, drop the floorplate, etc. You will see. The Remington has more going for it in general - unless you are really hung up on switching barrels or want to save that last $10. I think the entry level (cheapest) Savages are better than the entry level Remingtons, FWIW. I would buy a Stevens (Savage) for a truck gun before I'd buy an SPS.

 

[canuck]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I've run out of things to ask about... (well..., maybe a 10rd DM...)</div></div>

You could always get the VBull 10 rd DBM.

 

[Phil3]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

I am the OP, and and am thankful for the many responses. For my first bolt action, I want a tactical type rifle at a modest price that I can shoot pretty much out of the box, while developing shooting skills and handloads. It appears the Savage best meets these needs, probably in the form of the 10FCP McMillan .308. I see nothing from Remington that competes as well. I can not get a Remington action to even start with if I wanted to build, at least not as simply as Savage (who sells the actions).

Later on down the road, the Remington seems to hold the advantage. A possible future rifle may take the form of the AICS 1.5 chassis system, and those are only available for Remington based actions. I would want to use the Stiller Precision TAC30, also Remington style only. Or just buy a GAP rifle. Regardless, Savage seems to be absent in this class of gun.

But here is what keeps nagging me. Savages are known for surprising accuracy, at low cost. While a well built custom Remington based rifle will no doubt deliver exceptional accuracy (and a stiff price, just how much better will it be than say the Savage 10FCP ($1,045 discounted) with a Shilen drop in barrel ($380, highest quality), and a good bedding job with the McMillan stock?

Other posts here brought up many other points that favor both actions and I will weigh these. One thing a poster said to do is examine the actions and operate both. I have not done a side by side and will do so.

- Phil

 

[sjm229]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Rounds choices may include 223, 308, 260 Remington, and/or 6mmBR.
</div></div>

Just something I noticed from your initial post and something you might want to consider.

.223 has a different bolt face than the others. A .308 would allow you to just swap barrels for .260 or 6BR (or many others with the .473" bolt face). A rifle in .223 (.378" bolt face) would require a bolt change or modification to go to the cartridges with the .308 bolt face dimension.

 

[okiefired]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Phil, I dont think accuracy is anything you're gonna have to worry about in either rifle. I Dont have a whole lot of new Savage experience but what I have has showed me that an "out of the box" Savage is no more acccurate than a Remmy. IMO, one of the reasons people are so impressed with new Savages is because they are such a drastic improvement over the older ones which were for the most part lousy, not all but most. Would'nt blame you for buying a Savage, or a Remmington I just dont think accuracy would be the deciding factor. Enjoy your new rifle.

okie

 

[HotIce]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sjm229</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A rifle in .223 (.378" bolt face) would require a bolt change or modification to go to the cartridges with the .308 bolt face dimension.</div></div>
Just a bolt head change (and bottom metal and barrel, of course) with Savage.

 

[jeffersonv]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phil3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
But here is what keeps nagging me. Savages are known for surprising accuracy, at low cost. While a well built custom Remington based rifle will no doubt deliver exceptional accuracy (and a stiff price, just how much better will it be than say the Savage 10FCP ($1,045 discounted) with a Shilen drop in barrel ($380, highest quality), and a good bedding job with the McMillan stock?
</div></div>

Not much if any.
The Savage may even out shoot it.
They do quite well.

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek036.html
http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek075.html

Be careful though, if you keep thinking along those lines you are in danger of becoming a Savage fan.

 

[ubet]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

As I stated above, I love and do not regret my savage. A friend of mine just bought a lh 700 had an a5 and a dbm put on it. The one thing I liked the remmy action, it was a lot smoother than my savage. It doesnt matter how accurate the rifle is, if the person driving it cant do his job, the gun wont be able to do its job.

 

[sjm229]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sjm229</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A rifle in .223 (.378" bolt face) would require a bolt change or modification to go to the cartridges with the .308 bolt face dimension.</div></div>
Just a bolt head change (and bottom metal and barrel, of course) with Savage.
</div></div>

That makes things a little less complicated.

I didn't know about this feature with Savage's. Never owned one.

Nice.

 

[Mc85]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

I got a savage mod 10 FCP with McMillan stock. I got it for 1045$ after taxes and all last Christmas. After coming up on a year of shooting it and about a thousand rounds it is still way more accurate than I am . If I did my part b4 I bedded the stock it would hold 5 shot .55-75 groups with handloads. Now with doing a bedding job I am down to .4's-.5's unless I mess up. I am using a 10X S.S. scope and have been holding sub moa all the way out to 700yds.Havent had a chance to go farther.I know the rifle is capable of well under moa out that far, sadly I suck at calling the wind, but I am gettin better.
I shoot using a harris up front and sometimes a sandsock in back. I think its a great value. Im sure a good done up Remington with good custom work would shoot better, but box stock a good savage is a great value!!!!!!!!!! I heard of a guy shooting eggs at 500yds with his stock savage (same model as mine)

Hope this helps

 

[Mc85]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

oh one other thing if I got my facts right about remingtons is the throat length is prettly long on them and u are not able to seat a bullet in the rifling if u wanted to. The savage does allow for this, though it may be a wee bit on the short side of things where the remington is on the long side of the jump.


Pro or Con.. um I guess it depends on the person, gun , and bullet of choice.

 

[okiefired]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh one other thing if I got my facts right about remingtons is the throat length is prettly long on them and u are not able to seat a bullet in the rifling if u wanted to. The savage does allow for this, though it may be a wee bit on the short side of things where the remington is on the long side of the jump.


Pro or Con.. um I guess it depends on the person, gun , and bullet of choice.
</div></div>


Just curious, whats the chamber length on your savages and how did you check them?

okie

 

[PoisonMiller]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

This isn't really huge to most people...

But I was considering buying a Savage, until I realized you cant see the firing pin from the back of the bolt.

It's just something I'm used to with my Mauser and my Mosin.

Something about seeing that firing pin actually go down is comforting.

 

[Falar]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okiefired</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh one other thing if I got my facts right about remingtons is the throat length is prettly long on them and u are not able to seat a bullet in the rifling if u wanted to. The savage does allow for this, though it may be a wee bit on the short side of things where the remington is on the long side of the jump.


Pro or Con.. um I guess it depends on the person, gun , and bullet of choice.
</div></div>


Just curious, whats the chamber length on your savages and how did you check them?

okie </div></div>

Mine is pretty short, to load to the lands with 155gr Scenars COAL is 2.848". I use the sinclair int'l gauge. I actually wish it was long, because the factory DBM will allow up to 3".

 

[Asm1]

Re: Remington vs Savage Action

Factory the savage has the advantage in 308 there 10 twist for subsonic use and the staggered feed mags are 2.900 OAL friendly.
You can mag feed 210VLD's in the lands on the ones I owned there barrels seem smooth and on the hi velcoity side.
Other wise the only advantage I see is If you have mechanical ability and want to build your own gun with simple tools and bypass the gun smith savage is the best way.

I built 4 savages in the last couple months and all where as good as any custom I have bought on groups at distance,I used shilen select match turn key barrels and SSS trued bolt heads no action truing other than lapping the lugs,I did bed them all in there new home..

Other wise I would prefer a Remington if its turn key no wait like I want it.