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Terminus Action Review / Observations
- Thread starter N565 Guy
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That really does not address the week ejection. If you try to eject an empty case from a Remington action, no matter how slowly you pull the bolt back, once the case mouth clears the receiver it gets thrown several feet. Regardless of which scope I used, and how fast or slowly I pulled the bolt back, the cases often barely tumbled out, and sometimes fell back into the receiver. I really disagree that I should have to fiddle with this at all. I did not see "some fiddling required" on the action website. Why would anyone bother with doing that when a factory action works fine. What do you gain?
There may well have been a problem with your Terminus. I don’t defend Terminus, don’t own one, the brand here is not important.
But it appears that, since you got lucky with your Defiance and Manners, you actually seem to think that experience is normal, par for the course, to be expected?
Do you understand that one can put a factory action into a third party stock made for that action and still have all sorts of problems? Or even put a Rem factory action in a different Rem factory stock and still have issues?
Because unlike car parts, bike parts, camera parts, and computer parts, a lot of gun parts aren’t CNC’d to some tight industry spec?
Coming from other high end consumer products, I understand why you’d think that. Example: if I spend way more than is necessary, it should just work, my time is valuable, etc etc. Not making fun of you here. I think that way too about a bunch of products.
But that’s just not how the gun world works man. Here, there’s are Gucci products, and then there is Gucci assembly of those products. They are not related.
If a precision rifle is like a house, your attitude is like, “I bought the most luxurious high-class slate for the roof. Now why doesn’t it just click together??”
If you want this stuff to just work, usually you have to pay good money for a gunsmith (or roofer) to put it together right. Unless you get lucky.
Speaking of luck, you’re lucky you’re into this hobby now.
Because not too long ago there weren’t prefits because manufacturers didn’t/couldn’t hold action tolerances tightly enough for that to be possible.
There weren’t chassis or mini-chassis; for the best groups you or a gunsmith often had to bed the action into the stock with messy epoxy, and then that stock was only good for that particular action. If it was a Rem 700, well, another supposedly identical Rem 700 action might not fit. You’d have to grind that bedding down and redo it with the new action and new epoxy.
Scope rings were probably not concentric to each other and needed to be lapped, or they might damage the scope tube’s finish or worse.
Etc.
Anyway, gun parts interoperability has come a long way in a relatively short time, but there’s a looong way to go.
Dude, you just don’t get it.
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I didn’t address your last sentence. I don’t know anything about the Apollo, so let’s take the Terminus gains over a R700.
You gain a very easy way to swap barrels vs having to use a barrel vise and action wrench, especially if you have barrel flats machined into your barrels à la AI.
You gain an integral pic rail and tang. They can’t come loose. You gain a 60° bolt throw and a three lug action (assuming you like these things). You gain better action coatings. Etc.
Buying a deluxe action has (almost) nothing to do with how easy it is to fit in your particular stock.
I say “almost” because yes, one assumes that a R700 clone custom action is close enough to a R700 footprint to fit in that stock, but beyond that, all bets are off.
Mag issues often are stock issues, not action manufacturing problems.
I am trying to help you understand and not putting you down.
Maybe I’m wasting my breath.
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