Repr 16.1 spiral vs Scar 17

[texag0842]

Anyone owned both?

I like the Scar for the lightweight aspect but prefer the Repr with most everything else.

Will be shooting some 3-gun, hog hunts, and ringing steel from 200-600.

Trying to see if anyone has both and which they prefer and why they prefer one over the other.

 

[800mZero]

For your needs I say Scar---its a fantastic do it all 308. The repr is more heavy, and is a great from the Bench rifle IMO.

 

[Cobracutter]

SCAR17, Every bit as accurate as the RERP, with none of the drawbacks and about 50 features/benefits over it.

SCAR17 is probally the best all around firearm to come around in a LONG time. For a .308 cartridge, it does just about everything a Carbine, rifle, DMR or even Light SWS does with features not found on any of them.

If you don't own one, and can swing the cost, do not hessitate to buy. I sold most of my .308 guns after getting one, it's that good.

 

[30calDeath]

SCAR17, Every bit as accurate as the RERP, with none of the drawbacks and about 50 features/benefits over it.

SCAR17 is probally the best all around firearm to come around in a LONG time. For a .308 cartridge, it does just about everything a Carbine, rifle, DMR or even Light SWS does with features not found on any of them.

If you don't own one, and can swing the cost, do not hessitate to buy. I sold most of my .308 guns after getting one, it's that good.

Ok man lets not be biased LWRC hater, polymer lower with proprietary mags and a shitty trigger is two things oh plus that reciprocating handle.

That said I do want a 17 in the future with a Geissele trigger and an aluminum lower to take PMAGS. The gun does seem pretty darn compact though!

 

[Cobracutter]

Ok man lets not be biased LWRC hater, polymer lower with proprietary mags and a shitty trigger is two things oh plus that reciprocating handle.

That said I do want a 17 in the future with a Geissele trigger and an aluminum lower to take PMAGS. The gun does seem pretty darn compact though!

Stop spreading bullshit.

1. The trigger in my 17 is VERY GOOD. In fact, I bought the gun with the intention of putting a Geissele in it, and after shooting it, it does not need it. I shoot KAC and G's in almost every gun I own, and trust me when I tell you, the SCAR17 trigger is great. Maybe I got lucky but everyone who has shot it has said the same thing. I think its a myth of them having shitty triggers more than anything. That or its the MK17 wih a poor trigger.

2.Whats wrong with Polymer lower? What forces are applied to the lower that would cause it to fail? Amazing the rifle was designed and tested and is in use by SOCOM, they don't seem to have a problem with the lower (other than to use pmags and SR25 a mags for cominality.

3. See # 2.

4. Have yet to find an issue with the charging handle. Cant be switched to the other side in less than 10 seconds. I can dissasemble the whole gun in less than 15 seconds.


I plan on getting one of then gen2-3 magnesium Handl lowers down the road, just beacuse I have a stash of pmags. The modified FAL mags that the SCAR uses are fantastic and even at $35, arent a bad deal considering.

 

[30calDeath]

Stop spreading bullshit.

1. The trigger in my 17 is VERY GOOD. In fact, I bought the gun with the intention of putting a Geissele in it, and after shooting it, it does not need it. I shoot KAC and G's in almost every gun I own, and trust me when I tell you, the SCAR17 trigger is great. Maybe I got lucky but everyone who has shot it has said the same thing. I think its a myth of them having shitty triggers more than anything. That or its the MK17 wih a poor trigger.

2.Whats wrong with Polymer lower? What forces are applied to the lower that would cause it to fail? Amazing the rifle was designed and tested and is in use by SOCOM, they don't seem to have a problem with the lower (other than to use pmags and SR25 a mags for cominality.

3. See # 2.

4. Have yet to find an issue with the charging handle. Cant be switched to the other side in less than 10 seconds. I can dissasemble the whole gun in less than 15 seconds.


I plan on getting one of then gen2-3 magnesium Handl lowers down the road, just beacuse I have a stash of pmags. The modified FAL mags that the SCAR uses are fantastic and even at $35, arent a bad deal considering.

Spreading bullshit? Seems to me that you are the only person that I have ever heard of that likes the trigger. Really all the things we are talking about sure arent an advantage.

It would be much better if the handle did not reciprocate and that is just plain true, how is it cycling after every round a positive thing?

And isnt their issues with the polymer lower flexing and cracking?

What it all comes down to their really isnt a jack of all trades rifle. Pick what suits you best right?

 

[800mZero]

I have not heard anything bad about the lowers.
GG&G makes a no recip kit for the scar now.
Again..weight is a huge factor.

 

[texag0842]

Guys a trigger isn't going to kill me.

Worst case I pony up the $300 for a G and I'm still under a REPR price.

With my .mil discount I'm looking at approx 2250 plus 300 on the trigger for the Scar-H, lets just call it 2600.

Mags are $45 for factory mags which isn't ideal but its $450 for 10. So Ill be invested 3100 with mags plus 900 for the Acog or a additional $3500 for the 1-8 short dot depending how I go regardless scope is the same for either.

So it's 4k for the SCAR loaded out and about 4,500 for the REPR $3,329 + 900 for Acog = 4,229 + $200 for 10 Pmags $4,500. So I'm splitting hairs price wise.

 

[Cobracutter]

Please show me where they are flexing and cracking... If anything, flex is a good thing vise metal..... metal is much more brittle.

The gun is stupid reliable, Super light, The most accurate non Gap/OBR/(Krieger/Bartlien/PREMO barrel) I have ever shot, a ton of rail space, and a very good trigger. It also breaks down very easy, has a folding stock, suppresed gas settings, and has the least ammount of recoil of any .308 I have ever shot........which is amazing considering the light weight.

My trigger is fantastic for a DMR/Sniper setup. Its not benchrest < 1lb, and neither is any gun I own.


Texag, Look around armslist and try and find a dealer posting on there. It is how I got my scar the cheapest. Buy out of state so there is no sales tax and find one that doesnt charge the 3% for CC. I paid $2820 for mine shipped from a dealer in colorado.

Good luck finding a MIL/LEO FN.........

Mags for the SCAR17 can be found for $37 bucks and with sales/discount codes, as low as $33-34. If you have other .308PMAG guns then the handle lower is not a bad idea if you plan to own ~15+ or so SCAR mags. That was the rough break -even calculator I created to determine whether the handl was worth it.

Even If the Scar cost $1000 or 5,000 more than the REPR, its still a better gun and a better value.

 

[30calDeath]

Bottom line is the REPR is a pig and if you are looking for a lightweight reliable semi auto 308 the SCAR is the answer. Now I really want one lol.

 

[texag0842]

Please show me where they are flexing and cracking... If anything, flex is a good thing vise metal..... metal is much more brittle.

The gun is stupid reliable, Super light, The most accurate non Gap/OBR/(Krieger/Bartlien/PREMO barrel) I have ever shot, a ton of rail space, and a very good trigger. It also breaks down very easy, has a folding stock, suppresed gas settings, and has the least ammount of recoil of any .308 I have ever shot........which is amazing considering the light weight.

My trigger is fantastic for a DMR/Sniper setup. Its not benchrest < 1lb, and neither is any gun I own.


Texag, Look around armslist and try and find a dealer posting on there. It is how I got my scar the cheapest. Buy out of state so there is no sales tax and find one that doesnt charge the 3% for CC. I paid $2820 for mine shipped from a dealer in colorado.

Good luck finding a MIL/LEO FN.........

Mags for the SCAR17 can be found for $37 bucks and with sales/discount codes, as low as $33-34. If you have other .308PMAG guns then the handle lower is not a bad idea if you plan to own ~15+ or so SCAR mags. That was the rough break -even calculator I created to determine whether the handl was worth it.

Even If the Scar cost $1000 or 5,000 more than the REPR, its still a better gun and a better value.

Tactical Firearms in Katy has LE Scars for 2300 right now as does GT Dist.

Both are selling the mags for $45 which Im fine with. Ill go pick one up this afternoon and be done with it. Sounds like I can't get hurt

 

[Cobracutter]

If You can snag a SCAR17 for 2300, don't hessitate. Might even wana grab 2.

 

[Raven34]

^^ Yeah grab two then sell me one!

 

[turnandshoot4]

I've had the pleasure of shooting both side by side and I own one of them. The REPR was heavier, had more recoil, and wasn't as accurate. They were both 16" with PWS brakes.

This question was very different two or three years ago, the SCAR has come a long way in that time.

Issues fixed in the last few years.
1. Mag availability
2. Reciprocating charging handle
3. Terrible trigger
4. The myth that SCARs "eat" optics
5. Different barrel lengths
6. Knuckle busting charging handles
7. Scope mounts that force knuckles to be busted
8. Inability to use Pmags


I got .7MOA out of my SCAR 17 three weeks ago.

 

[Desert_Racer]

I put the finishing touches on my SCAR-17 last week with a Geissele trigger and its outstanding. I love that damn gun; don't think it'll ever leave my arsenal unless it gets stolen or the house burns down. I picked up a Bushnell Elite Tactical 1-6.5x for it night before last because I believe it will be a much better fit than the NF 1-4x I had on it previously, but I digress.

This rifle eats everything I put it through with nary a malfunction. I haven't done any formal accuracy testing with it using match ammo, but it damn sure hits whatever I point it at with the M80 ball I put through it regularly. And its as clean as a whistle after putting a shitload of rounds through it. The recoil is virtually non-existant. As a matter of fact, my fiancee prefers to shoot it over all the other guns I have, including the ARs, .22s, ect.



Bottom line, the SCAR-17 is an outstanding weapons system. I paid $2650 for mine and it was money well spent.

 

[DMONEY]

SCAR 17S vs REPR - YouTube

 

[DMONEY]

I've had the pleasure of shooting both side by side and I own one of them. The REPR was heavier, had more recoil, and wasn't as accurate. They were both 16" with PWS brakes.

This question was very different two or three years ago, the SCAR has come a long way in that time.

Issues fixed in the last few years.
1. Mag availability
2. Reciprocating charging handle
3. Terrible trigger
4. The myth that SCARs "eat" optics
5. Different barrel lengths
6. Knuckle busting charging handles
7. Scope mounts that force knuckles to be busted
8. Inability to use Pmags


I got .7MOA out of my SCAR 17 three weeks ago.

SCAR 17S vs REPR - YouTube

 

[Thebelly]

I would say the scar is the best choice.

The one that I had was easily minute-of-face accurate out to roughly 600m.

 

[JeffLebowski]

I would not bet on LWRC being around in the future. SCAR.

 

[texag0842]

What rail extension is that?

I put the finishing touches on my SCAR-17 last week with a Geissele trigger and its outstanding. I love that damn gun; don't think it'll ever leave my arsenal unless it gets stolen or the house burns down. I picked up a Bushnell Elite Tactical 1-6.5x for it night before last because I believe it will be a much better fit than the NF 1-4x I had on it previously, but I digress.

This rifle eats everything I put it through with nary a malfunction. I haven't done any formal accuracy testing with it using match ammo, but it damn sure hits whatever I point it at with the M80 ball I put through it regularly. And its as clean as a whistle after putting a shitload of rounds through it. The recoil is virtually non-existant. As a matter of fact, my fiancee prefers to shoot it over all the other guns I have, including the ARs, .22s, ect.



Bottom line, the SCAR-17 is an outstanding weapons system. I paid $2650 for mine and it was money well spent.

 

[Desert_Racer]

Midwest Industries

 

[Guest]

Anybody put their SCAR with variable scope on a scale? I'm interested in knowing what it's weighing in at with glass? Or without glass and I can add that.. I've recently read posts of guys saying their AR10's were weighing in the 16-20# range which I don't understand. My P308 as outfitted below in my sig is weighing about 11#.

Interested to know how the SCAR compares.

 

[hk dave]

Easily the SCAR.

LWRC is just marketing.

 

[dbransco]

Just weighed mine this morning at 11.8 lbs., dressed out like the photo below minus the DBAL, but with a full 10 rd. magazine;

I have owned a REPR in the past and it was a beautiful rifle. I didn't own it real long or put it through any real paces, but it seemed built very nicely and I didn't ever feel that it wouldn't last. Customer service at the time was good too. However, as said above, it was a pig! After owning it, I found its role pretty much as a bench shooter and figured there were more accurate "pigs" out there, so why settle on this one.

The SCAR 17s is now my go to "ranch" rifle!! I have it setup and use it for coyote hunting at night, its light weight so I carry it around the ranch. Its probably my favorite rifle right now.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for weighing your SCAR. I wanted to see how my P308 compares. As outfitted below it is weighing in at 10.6" but that's without a loaded 20rd PMAG. I love it and its my go to rifle at the moment.

 

[Oakland Tactical]

We have sold quite a few SCAR17s, NONE of them have had a respectable trigger. The hammer forged barrels have very good accuracy with quality ammo and good optics to exploit it. I thought they were non-heterosexual for a long time until I spent time around them.

 

[smithjd]

I had an 18" REPR. It was very reliable, but heavy and had surprisingly heavy recoil. I could only get it to shoot up to (down to) about 1 MOA and only on a good day. Not necessarily holding it against the rifle, as it could have been other factors. However, it was still a pig. I would have to start juicing to run it as I wanted. LWRC had good customer service. Have team mates with 5.56 LWRC's who are very happy with them. No LWRC bashing from me.

Sold it and bought the SCAR. It does the same thing, at the same or better accuracy, with about 3# less weight, and less recoil on top of it. Accuracy has been ridiculous for a battle rifle. My specimen had a trigger my son described as "horrocious". Felt kind of like dragging a brick across gravel, with at least 3 distinct stages, sometimes 4. Geiselle triggers are popular for a reason and worth the money. Reciprocating charging handle does not bother me at all. I put the MI rail on it, so I could get a purchase with off hand out farther, and also to cover more of the barrel when shooting in supported positions.

Last time I had it out at distance, I put 7 rounds (handloads) on the steel in about a 7" group at 500 laser measured yards. First round, cold bore shots are consistent at 100 and not distinct from the rest of the rounds underneath it in the magazine. I have not burned through a pile of magazines to see how a heated barrel affects group size or location, however.

Like others have said, I would not part with my SCAR. Also, I accumulated a sufficient supply of OEM magazines at $29 each. You can find them for significantly less than $45 if you look.

 

[Saito]

I bought the 1st SCAR 17 I saw 3 yrs ago. I sold it a yr ago. It was light and I liked it initially. The trigger was absolute shit. It came with ONE mag and more were nowhere to be found. Here's a list of my positives & negatives:

+s
Light weight
Accurate

-s
Mag availablity
Stuck with factory irons
Recip CH
Pencil thin bbl & 'nut' for suppressor back up(instead of a shoulder)
TRIGGER ! ! ! SOB I hated that f'n trigger ! Honestly the thing that pissed me off the most ! !
Stock felt very cheap & chincy

The little things added up & it got added to my 'first to go' list. I wouldn't mind still having it with all of the recent improvements. Still, it would be one hell of a money pit and my AR10 is my baby anyway.

 

[7.62gunr]

I shot mine at 700m prone off the gripod yesterday at a 16" gong. About 85% rapid fire shooting PPU 145 grain.

 

[swamp2]

I bought the 1st SCAR 17 ... negatives:
...
Mag availablity
Stuck with factory irons
Recip CH
Pencil thin bbl & 'nut' for suppressor back up(instead of a shoulder)
TRIGGER ! ! ! SOB I hated that f'n trigger ! Honestly the thing that pissed me off the most ! !
Stock felt very cheap & chincy

Some counterpoints:

-Mag availability comes and goes, stock up when you need to, then no worries
-I run the Troy Micro flip up tritium sights, work great. That being said there are not many sights short enough for the large rail to barrel height.
-Thin barrel hasn't prevented many of us from getting less than 1 MOA from the rifle
-Who keeps a stock trigger on any similar rifle?

 

[xCavalryx]

I bought the 1st SCAR 17 I saw 3 yrs ago. I sold it a yr ago. It was light and I liked it initially. The trigger was absolute shit. It came with ONE mag and more were nowhere to be found. Here's a list of my positives & negatives:

+s
Light weight
Accurate

-s
Mag availablity
Stuck with factory irons
Recip CH
Pencil thin bbl & 'nut' for suppressor back up(instead of a shoulder)
TRIGGER ! ! ! SOB I hated that f'n trigger ! Honestly the thing that pissed me off the most ! !
Stock felt very cheap & chincy

The little things added up & it got added to my 'first to go' list. I wouldn't mind still having it with all of the recent improvements. Still, it would be one hell of a money pit and my AR10 is my baby anyway.

Saito, no offense bud, but you must have never lifted your irons on the SCAR. They're the best factory irons I've used and I have others who've shot my irons and concur. I'd say its a damn fine sight picture and quite accurate. Far more so than the AR 10 fixed irons or any other fixed AR platform.

As for the charging handle, again, no problem. Train yourself to not put your thumb in the way, it's easy. Or move it to the other side of the receiver. Mags are everywhere right now, three aftermarket trigger systems are available for the SCAR. Stock is fine, it won't crack on ya.

 

[turnandshoot4]

If your thumb is getting hit by the charging handle you aren't using your sling properly.

 

[7.62gunr]

This is 2 days ago with my 17
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[Saito]

Saito, no offense bud, but you must have never lifted your irons on the SCAR. They're the best factory irons I've used and I have others who've shot my irons and concur. I'd say its a damn fine sight picture and quite accurate. Far more so than the AR 10 fixed irons or any other fixed AR platform.

As for the charging handle, again, no problem. Train yourself to not put your thumb in the way, it's easy. Or move it to the other side of the receiver. Mags are everywhere right now, three aftermarket trigger systems are available for the SCAR. Stock is fine, it won't crack on ya.

I realize most of my gripes have been remedied by now. I used the irons almost exclusively and ended up putting an EOtech on the 17. I never had any trouble with the reciprocating CH & only listed it as a negative because I think it kinda sux. Never liked the fact that it only came with one mag either & for 2700$, I feel like it should come with a better trigger(mine would actually stop halfway through its travel and wouldn't return if you let off). It was gritty as shit & I can't say I've felt a worse trigger anywhere.

If I'd kept it I'm sure I'd probably have a Handl lower & a new Geiselle trigger(and 7-800 less $). I sometimes wish I did still have it & may pick up another one if the opportunity presets itself.

I didn't say I hated the rifle overall, I just felt really disappointed; mostly in the trigger & the lack of mags(cuz they were hard to find even a yr ago).

I put a couple hundred rds through it & used it to shoot jack rabbits back in WY. It would tightly cluster the 125grn TNT jack load at 50yds and I'm sure it was one of my most accurate .308s. I can't say that I noticed any less recoil than my other .308s have though(AR10 & SOCOM 16). I also didn't say I disliked the irons, I'd just like the option to have a different set(without the rifle looking funny).

Suffice it to say that I'd probably still have the rifle if I hadn't hated the trigger so much. It was that bad :-/

 

[Desert_Racer]

Suffice it to say that I'd probably still have the rifle if I hadn't hated the trigger so much. It was that bad :-/

A crappy trigger is a bad reason to get rid of such an awesome rifle, especially if it was accurate. My factory trigger sucked, but when I installed my Handl lower, I cleaned the hell out of the trigger before I put it back in and it improved it a lot. I read numerous reports of folks doing the same and having the same results. Others had a trigger job done on the factory trigger and were very happy. Now that I have a Geissele in mine, I couldn't be happier.

Yesterday I mounted my new Bushnell SMRS 1-6.5x24 SFP on my SCAR-17 and I took it out today and zeroed it. I was getting around 1 MOA without trying too hard during zeroing at 100 yards (using FGGM 175 gr [FC brass]). After that, I took her out to 500 yards and was ringing steel like it was nobody's business. The recoil of the rifle is such that I was able to see where my shots were hitting and I was able to make rapid and accurate follow up shots.

My holdovers were:
200y- 1 mil
300y- 1.5 mils
385 (didn't have steel at 400 for some reason)- 2 mils
500y- 4 mils

I wanted to take her out farther, but the range I was at requires you be a member to use their 600-1000y portion of the range.

Today's trip to the range just set it in stone even more that this rifle is such an outstanding weapons system and that I won't be getting rid of it. My buddy, who is a huge REPR proponent and owner, put some rounds down-range with my SCAR today and I practically had to pry it out of his hands. His words were, "I'm going to have to sell a car or something because I want one."

On a side note, there is a lot of talk about finding the perfect optic for the SCAR-17, being that it is a very versatile weapon. For those looking for a variable low-power optic, I HIGHLY recommend the aforementioned Bushnell with their BTR-2 reticle (much better for using hold-overs versus the BTR-1 reticle). I chose the SFP version because on 1x, the reticle looks very similar to an EoTech reticle. If I need to use higher magnification, I go straight to 6.5x so there is no need for FFP for me. At 1x, it seems to be true 1x, and doing both eyes open shooting at close range is very effective and pretty much as fast as an EoTech or Aimpoint.

 

[DetroitRearView]

wow

still like my repr

1/2 moa when I do my job

reliable

killed lots of stuff

bangs steel

just shot 3 @ 100yds into one ragged hole with SS factory 175 smk with 3.5x35 acog

whacked this goat @ 450 yds 1 shot

15 other deer/goats

feeds reliably

does not kick like my 338LM

I think I must a one of the few good ones

good thing since they are apparently going out of business

oh, yeh had a scar sold it

 

[Shooter0311]

I like the scar 17 and the repr for different reasons. They are NOT going out of (LWRC) business. Do some research. In one late 2012 contract, they won almost 100 mil with and allied government. A friend of mine just left LWRC for a better personal opportunity.

 

[macfly]

The scar is nice and i woukdnt mind getting one too but i love my LWRC. threw an SSA trigger in it and have no complaints. Try both and see what grabs you

 

[Okyman]

I have both. I use the 16" REPR for 3 gun, as I have had it longer. It's a good, reliable platform and generally shoots right at about 1" or 1 1/4". I use pmags and a nightforce 2.5x10 NPR1 scope. I have never had an issue with reliablity or failure to fire. It's a fine rifle. I like the non-reciprocating charging handle and the ability to use it as a forward assist when I need it, usually because I was chamber checking. The only thing I did to the system is to change out the trigger spring with a yellow JP enterprise spring to reduce the factory trigger weight. The system is great. If you cannot handle weight this is not the system for you. I will say it's great for follow thru, however. Lastly, I run an AAC suppressor at times also. The gas system allows me to use it like a bolt gun without the bolt slapping back, so that 's handy for varmints.
The Scar 17. I changed out the trigger for a geissle, changed the lower to a handl defense, changed the pistol grip to a hogue(magpull doesn't fit well), added a nightforce 2.5-10 npr1 on top, use the same aac suppresor I have for the repr and have been running it hard since. The weight seems to be half of what the REPR is and the SCAR seems to be just as reliable. I smacked my thumb several times with the charging handle, so I moved it to the other side and run it just like an ak for charging. The same pmags I use in my REPR run in the SCAR just fine. The accuracy seems to be about 1-2" with whatever I stick in there and it always goes bang. I have to say that this is the ugliest rifle I have ever loved. Everything about it works, and it shoots.
I think you can't go wrong with either, just don't expect them to be tack drivers. You may luck out and get one, but the main thing is that both systems (the ones I own or have played with) will and are more than capable of shooting targets to 750-800 yards any time it is needed. Plus, if you miss, just pull the trigger again.
Anyway, either system is great.

 

[Cobracutter]

I put the finishing touches on my SCAR-17 last week with a Geissele trigger and its outstanding. I love that damn gun; don't think it'll ever leave my arsenal unless it gets stolen or the house burns down. I picked up a Bushnell Elite Tactical 1-6.5x for it night before last because I believe it will be a much better fit than the NF 1-4x I had on it previously, but I digress.

This rifle eats everything I put it through with nary a malfunction. I haven't done any formal accuracy testing with it using match ammo, but it damn sure hits whatever I point it at with the M80 ball I put through it regularly. And its as clean as a whistle after putting a shitload of rounds through it. The recoil is virtually non-existant. As a matter of fact, my fiancee prefers to shoot it over all the other guns I have, including the ARs, .22s, ect.



Bottom line, the SCAR-17 is an outstanding weapons system. I paid $2650 for mine and it was money well spent.

Please let me know how that 1-6.5 works out. its on my very short list of SCAR17 optics to pick up next year.

 

[Cobracutter]

We have sold quite a few SCAR17s, NONE of them have had a respectable trigger. The hammer forged barrels have very good accuracy with quality ammo and good optics to exploit it. I thought they were non-heterosexual for a long time until I spent time around them.

Mine has a fantastic trigger for a Battle rifle from the factory. Maybe I just got lucky. It is good enough that I will not be wasting money on a giesselle (every gun I own has a G or a KAC for reference).

 

[Desert_Racer]

Please let me know how that 1-6.5 works out. its on my very short list of SCAR17 optics to pick up next year.

I plan on doing a review on it, mainly in its relation to the SCAR17 itself as there is already a pretty extensive review on the optic here on the hide somewhere. Stand by for words...

 

[swamp2]

A crappy trigger is a bad reason to get rid of such an awesome rifle, especially if it was accurate.

+1

 

[Cobracutter]

I plan on doing a review on it, mainly in its relation to the SCAR17 itself as there is already a pretty extensive review on the optic here on the hide somewhere. Stand by for words...

Yea , I saw that a while ago. I am more concerned with how effective and how it ballances with the SCAR17. More magnification is nice but if it kills the lightweight of the weapon, then its zero gain. I want to keep it light and agile.

 

[Desert_Racer]

Yea , I saw that a while ago. I am more concerned with how effective and how it ballances with the SCAR17. More magnification is nice but if it kills the lightweight of the weapon, then its zero gain. I want to keep it light and agile.

In terms of effectiveness, I think it is an excellent dual-role optic. As I mentioned before, on 1x with the illumination on, it is really easy to shoot both eyes open and is very similar to an EoTech. At 6.5x, it is still very clear and I found the reticle to be extremely user friendly for using holdovers, but not so busy that it obscures your sight picture. I also feel that it balances really well.

In terms of weight, it does add a little bit to the weapon. I didn't find it too be over-encumbering, but I wouldn't say you can throw it around like an SBR either. Honestly, if you're not a limp-wristed pussy, you can handle it (which I'm sure you aren't). I suppose the best way to describe the weight (since I haven't weighed it) was similar to carrying an M4 with an M203, maybe a touch heavier.

I think running just an EoTech or a T-1 really impedes the overall versatility of this weapon. The good that comes from these is that it keeps it nice and light, but it also makes it difficult to engage with precision at distance.

I think the same is true if running an ACOG: it keeps it light but in a CQB role, it may prove to be more difficult with the fixed magnification.

Everything is a give and take when it comes to your choice in optics it seems; everything has a price. Bottom line, I think the pros far outweigh the cons (the only con I found being a little extra weight).

Just my .02¢. To each his own. Good luck with your search for the perfect optic for your SCAR.

 

[John1911.com]

I am seeing some egos in this thread which is to be expected. I try not to have my ego tied to any firearm.

1. I have never heard or seen a SCAR "crack" a lower. We use them at work. For a few years now. Maybe I missed this.
2. The reciprocating handle is a mental thing. Bugged me at first, but I got over it.
3. I just recently saw the kit to make the charging handle not-recip. Seems like a cool idea. I knew it would come along eventually. I had an idea to make a kit my self, but that one mentioned seems like a better idea. But you go first. I want to see if it holds up.
4. They are accurate. Enough for LE Sniper work.
5. They are light and handy.
6. All those 308 AR's are kind of piggish. Simple fact. Perception has changed on that to the detriment of the AR.
7. If you wish to run 175g ammo out of an AR, there can be a timing issue. (DI).
8. AR's simply DESTROY the SCAR on after-market parts and options. But that's a reflection of it's maturity.
9. We are seeing more SCAR stuff come out to the point I don't think it's going away like a fad.
10. But if something does comes out that does what the SCAR does but better than the SCAR, it's dead in the US.

Disclosure: I choose to run the SCAR over the AR. It's mostly because I'm a shoot and move guy.

Will the SCAR be here 10 years from now? Probably. But that doesn't mean when all these SCAR's hit X round count they won't fall apart either. Only time will tell.

In 1986, I don't recall too many hot-shit ninja types talking about 400,000 round Glocks either. Who knows?

If you like the SCAR, get it. If you like the AR. Get it. These bullet launchers have more in common than not.

TTR

 

[thmpr]

Had two REPRs and sold it to fund my two SCAR17 and two SCAR16. The REPR is a heavy 308 and could not justify the benefits and value it had over the SCAR platform. I did however kept the M6 LWRC platform.