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I know exactly how you feel, because I felt the same way, But I like this bipod.150 bucks? That should tell you all you need to know right there. I’d spend the extra coin on an elite iron before buying this I don’t even recall the article saying what it’s made of.
Hard pass.
It’s not elitist. It’s a matter of the simple question.......will this product function like it’s supposed to when I need to every time.Under $150, and I paid $70. Based on that review from a guy who isnt easy on equipment, how does $150 tell me all I need to know? It doesn't cost $300 so it's automatically garbage. The elitist attitude that is overwhelming our sport is getting ridiculous. There was a time when everyone considered Bushnell garbage, and now its standard knowledge that they put out quality gear. Why cant we accept that companies can evolve?
Oh, and it's made of aluminum and steel with a lifetime warranty.
No part of that review gave you any indication of the long term quality of the bipod. You're certainly correct that a new product needs time to prove itself...just like Atlas and Elite Iron have. It takes someone to purchase and use the item to gather information on longevity. All of the products that we use today have either built a reputation or failed to. Price is not always an indicator of quality, there are plenty of products out there that aren't worth a shit to anyone that isn't a brand whore. I'm not looking for validation about the bipod, $70 was well worth a look. I have no stake in the bipod, but you have no basis to dismiss it either. (Outside of the pan feature, which is certainly valid.) I see this attitude thread after thread, where someone bags on a product with little to no information to back it up.It’s not elitist. It’s a matter of the simple question.......will this product function like it’s supposed to when I need to every time.
have you ever relied on a weapon system for your life in the past or currently? I don’t look at equipment from a fun day at the range with my boys, I look at it from a would I trust my life to it.
it may very well be a decent product, but the Harris is cheaper. The military relied on the Harris for far too long. They finally woke up.
you get what you pay for. Check back with me after a few thousand rounds with it with some big bore calibers, some comps and a few hunting trips. Oh and Pan is not a feature I look for in a bipod. But that’s just me. It seems to me you bought a product and are look for justification of that purchase, instead you should be doing research before you buy and you will quickly learn from the 300 or so threads on bipods that cheap don’t go round here. No one recommends a magpul bipod. No one recommends a Harris.
im not knocking the product, it fills a void. I’m just saying hard pass. Made in China ain’t for me.
@coldboremiracle, good article. Well written. Any comment I have isn’t toward the article or OP, just the product.
I understand, no offense taken. And for the record, I have never had to depend on my shooting gear in life or death. And Id assume that the huge majority of people who use the exact same gear dont rely on it to save lives. Most people dont do goon shit, and the only tangos they've downed are Cheeto fingered operators operating out of their Mom's basement.@coldboremiracle, good article. Well written. Any comment I have isn’t toward the article or OP, just the product.
no longer on Leapers website, found one though, thank you!
They are making some products here, but I'm not sure if this falls under that category. This is my first UTG product, so I hope it holds up.I have been hearing a lot lately about UTG picking up efforts and making stuff that isn’t junk. Thanks for the review.
Aren’t they actually making some of this new stuff in America?
I'd be interested to see the alterations that you made.I got one as well. You don't appreciate how beefy it is until it's in your hand.
You can use it on a NV bridge, but if you are using low scope rings, then the top of the mount will be about the middle of your optic. I can see a little ghost at the bottom quarter but no black spot or full obstruction.
The max rifle height is also lower than most 6-9" biopds max height.
I did some tweaking and it's now and under mount. It has a little flex in it at the panning pivot point. Just wish there was a spiked foot option. Something else I am going to have to tweak. Going to run it at the SRM this weekend on my Grendel AR, then if it survives (I have a tendency to really load the bipod), then will try it at the magnum match the next month under my MPA 6.5 PRC.
I keep forgetting to mount it with a standard under mount bipod to show the diff.
I'd be interested to see the alterations that you made.
Good to see your still around Greg. Im not big on the side mount bipods, the pivot and pan options are curtailed, and leveling is tedious. The UTG in the article above is removed for the rifle in a second or two, so stowing it is simple if you dont want blockage.I like the concept; but I don't like the weight or the cost.
I recently reviewed LL's workup on Bipods. I buy into the points, but I'm never going to get that kind of purchase past the Chancelor-ess of the Exchequer (AKA SWMBO). One of my main takeaways was the idea of getting the bore axis well down below the apex of the triangle.
So, I set about a lookabout to find out if something suitable might be priced more within my realm of the possible. I came up with this, interestingly also from UTG. It meets with my above criterion, pretty definitely.
It mounts really solid. It stows really snug. With five different setpoints; it's versatile, and can be carried without all of that customary snaggage up front. It's quite light. The repositioning, once it's been done a few times, is really quick, really simple, and pretty logical.
When stowed, it does not interfere with the use of a rest.
It has a taller brother, which I'm eyeing for use on my PA-10, which uses taller magazines.
I'm aiming on making these my basic bipod setup on my M-LOK AR'S.
Just thought this might be a good place to tuck in a blurb...
Greg
Can you re upload these photos I would love to see them!Picture of the mount and cant tensioner. They installed pins to keep it from unscrewing and falling out. Also 3 decent recoil lugs with two mounting screws.
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Quick release lever for the mini spigot mount. You have to have the cant tension mostly loosened up to release. There is also a pin (red locktite set screw) that limits the panning into a machined "V" in the mount and a friction gasket (not pictured) to keep it slow and smooth.
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The pan mechanism disassembled. 2 rubber gaskets provide the smooth L/R panning and also the source of the flex when loading.
I was initially hoping that I could simple flip the spigot mount over, but the machining in the bracket and the pin prevents that, and I could not get the setscrew broken free.
Simply flipping the spigot mount over works to a point, but a lot more flex.
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This flat head screw is what attaches the spigot mount (oval shaped) into the eye .
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Pin removed
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Eye removed ((pry/tapping - very snug fit). Now simply flip the eye over and installation is reverse of removal. Sucks getting that hole perfectly centered to get the threads started on the pin.
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Can you re upload these photos I would love to see them!
I will say that in the cheap bipod market, they do have a few that are well made and do the job.
I picked up a UTG Recon 360 on a whim for a spare AR. A $60 bipod with pan and tilt. It's well built. Locks up like a drum and has so far been a testament to what's possible in a budget. That being said it hasn't seen hard use in competition and that is where the rubber meets the road. But, it functions so well so far that I'm willing to try it when it counts just for fun. It may be a catastrophic failure but if not ill give credit where due.
You wanna stay on topic? You're constant epistles on off-topic stuff is beginning to annoy...You are either low IQ or just poorly educated.
People like to dog on Business Major and Economic Majors just as much as they dog on Diversity and Inclusion majors. That said even a MBA would understand that price point has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with quality of materials, fit, finish or total quality. If simplistic low IQ logic like yours ruled the world a $180K Mercedes would be more reliable, durable and low maintenance than a $25K Toyota Corolla or Camry but it is not. A million dollar Ferrari should be able to easily stand up to 5 years of daily driving year round including hard rust belt winters with little in repairs. Clearly a new top of the line BMW SUV should easily be able to out perform a lowly TOyota 4Runner as a daily driver and occasional off road recreational vehicle! A Rolle Royce COntinental GT should easily be able to go 120K miles with almost no need for repair outside of routine maintenance!
A Weatherby Mark V should be 3X-5X more accurate than a Howa 1500, Ruger American, Tikka T3 Lite.
How much better is an Origin Action going to perform compared to a $200 Savage with $175 of machine work? Will it be 3X or 4X better than my $375 with Machining Savage? Is a $3000 Scope going to Shrink my groups by 3X compared to a $1000 Japanese made scope?
Clearly you are a well trained super consumer that has ZERO understanding of Marketing! Do not confuse Marketing with Advertising totally different focus with Marketing being far more inclusive of the entire process from start to finish. Pricing is part of marketing and it has ZERO and I do mean ZERO to do with production cost of an item.
I bet you have no idea what the fastest and cheapest method of making a barrel it? Button rifling is faster and cheaper than any other method of rifling. Initial investment is lower, tooling cost are lower, it produces a rifled barrel faster than any other method. I am sure you thought CHF was cheaper but it is not. Invest in the machinery and tooling is far higher. It CHF is slower than button rifling.
You have sadly been brainwashed by marketing and advertising to the point that you are so out of touch with what goes into manufacturing to retail that you have absolutely no clue.
I have been reviewing a lot of F Class bipods and if you think any of the $400+ bipods are worth that you are not as smart as you think you are maybe take a look at Dunning Kruger Effect!!!!
No one takes a loss on a part so how is it that I get $400+ dollar barrels for $69 to $209? I am not buying from individuals. Did the quality of the barrel drop the second the price was discounted or is your logic just not sound?
If I purchase a part for $195 made in the USA on machinery is antiquated that needs a lot of work to finish it and it is sub standard but I purchase a part that is superior in materials, surface finish, clearances and tolerances out of Taiwan for $2.48 who is the bigger fool?
Why do you think GM and Ford are making more vehicles in China than the USA? Why do you think they are importing vehicles from China including the newest Lincoln SUV? You think it is just because of labor cost? Get real! New Plants, new infrastructure, new machinery, low tax rates, low energy cost. You think Tesla electric motors and batteries made in China are grossly inferior to what can be made in the USA? You think Aviation companies have not been making high end parts in Taiwan for many decades now?
Name a single mass production rifle company in America that is making a rifle action at any price point that has forged action and bolt like a $400 to $500 Howa. I will wait! Talk to me about how Leupold and Burris are making all of their optics int he USA still oh that's right they don't! What about Redfield and Weaver oh that's right the don't.
Last I checked there are only 3 companies in Japan that make rifle scopes so if you have a scope that says made in Japan only 1 of 3 companies could have made.
Japanese made optics glass is the best int he world but it comes in grades and you can purchase glass your self in batches sometimes as little as a single tray but normally you have to buy more than that. Glass is made in bulk then graded. Just like diamonds are sold based on asperties/artifacts flaws you get bubbles in optics glass and the more bubbles it has the lower it's grade.
The best silica for making optics comes out of Vietnam just like construction grade sand is in short supply so is optics quality silica! Not all sand is created equally just ask Saudi Arabia how they know this!
Just like when a scope says made in the Philippines how many scope plants exactly do you think are on that Island? Do you think any factory does not have levels of designs and glass quality? Do you think all plants today have a single level of design and quality? All scopes out of Japan are world class and all scopes out of China are shit? What type of simpleton thinking is that? China has a space program, satellites and are ahead of us in Hypersonic Missles. All of our cameries, laptops, pc, semiconductors are made in China or Taiwan!
Companies even Chinese and Russian will build what ever you are willing to pay for. You would have to be living under a 1950's rock to think that the USA is the place where the highest technology and machinery standards live! That has not been universally true since the 1980's and by the 1990's Bills Clinton had given so much technology to the Chinese that by the early 2000's that idea was universally untrue.
He’s a professional troll.You wanna stay on topic? You're constant epistles on off-topic stuff is beginning to annoy...
For those of you that don't want to read all of this, here is the Reader's Digest condensed version.You are either low IQ or just poorly educated.
People like to dog on Business Major and Economic Majors just as much as they dog on Diversity and Inclusion majors. That said even a MBA would understand that price point has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with quality of materials, fit, finish or total quality. If simplistic low IQ logic like yours ruled the world a $180K Mercedes would be more reliable, durable and low maintenance than a $25K Toyota Corolla or Camry but it is not. A million dollar Ferrari should be able to easily stand up to 5 years of daily driving year round including hard rust belt winters with little in repairs. Clearly a new top of the line BMW SUV should easily be able to out perform a lowly TOyota 4Runner as a daily driver and occasional off road recreational vehicle! A Rolle Royce COntinental GT should easily be able to go 120K miles with almost no need for repair outside of routine maintenance!
A Weatherby Mark V should be 3X-5X more accurate than a Howa 1500, Ruger American, Tikka T3 Lite.
How much better is an Origin Action going to perform compared to a $200 Savage with $175 of machine work? Will it be 3X or 4X better than my $375 with Machining Savage? Is a $3000 Scope going to Shrink my groups by 3X compared to a $1000 Japanese made scope?
Clearly you are a well trained super consumer that has ZERO understanding of Marketing! Do not confuse Marketing with Advertising totally different focus with Marketing being far more inclusive of the entire process from start to finish. Pricing is part of marketing and it has ZERO and I do mean ZERO to do with production cost of an item.
I bet you have no idea what the fastest and cheapest method of making a barrel it? Button rifling is faster and cheaper than any other method of rifling. Initial investment is lower, tooling cost are lower, it produces a rifled barrel faster than any other method. I am sure you thought CHF was cheaper but it is not. Invest in the machinery and tooling is far higher. It CHF is slower than button rifling.
You have sadly been brainwashed by marketing and advertising to the point that you are so out of touch with what goes into manufacturing to retail that you have absolutely no clue.
I have been reviewing a lot of F Class bipods and if you think any of the $400+ bipods are worth that you are not as smart as you think you are maybe take a look at Dunning Kruger Effect!!!!
No one takes a loss on a part so how is it that I get $400+ dollar barrels for $69 to $209? I am not buying from individuals. Did the quality of the barrel drop the second the price was discounted or is your logic just not sound?
If I purchase a part for $195 made in the USA on machinery is antiquated that needs a lot of work to finish it and it is sub standard but I purchase a part that is superior in materials, surface finish, clearances and tolerances out of Taiwan for $2.48 who is the bigger fool?
Why do you think GM and Ford are making more vehicles in China than the USA? Why do you think they are importing vehicles from China including the newest Lincoln SUV? You think it is just because of labor cost? Get real! New Plants, new infrastructure, new machinery, low tax rates, low energy cost. You think Tesla electric motors and batteries made in China are grossly inferior to what can be made in the USA? You think Aviation companies have not been making high end parts in Taiwan for many decades now?
Name a single mass production rifle company in America that is making a rifle action at any price point that has forged action and bolt like a $400 to $500 Howa. I will wait! Talk to me about how Leupold and Burris are making all of their optics int he USA still oh that's right they don't! What about Redfield and Weaver oh that's right the don't.
Last I checked there are only 3 companies in Japan that make rifle scopes so if you have a scope that says made in Japan only 1 of 3 companies could have made.
Japanese made optics glass is the best int he world but it comes in grades and you can purchase glass your self in batches sometimes as little as a single tray but normally you have to buy more than that. Glass is made in bulk then graded. Just like diamonds are sold based on asperties/artifacts flaws you get bubbles in optics glass and the more bubbles it has the lower it's grade.
The best silica for making optics comes out of Vietnam just like construction grade sand is in short supply so is optics quality silica! Not all sand is created equally just ask Saudi Arabia how they know this!
Just like when a scope says made in the Philippines how many scope plants exactly do you think are on that Island? Do you think any factory does not have levels of designs and glass quality? Do you think all plants today have a single level of design and quality? All scopes out of Japan are world class and all scopes out of China are shit? What type of simpleton thinking is that? China has a space program, satellites and are ahead of us in Hypersonic Missles. All of our cameries, laptops, pc, semiconductors are made in China or Taiwan!
Companies even Chinese and Russian will build what ever you are willing to pay for. You would have to be living under a 1950's rock to think that the USA is the place where the highest technology and machinery standards live! That has not been universally true since the 1980's and by the 1990's Bills Clinton had given so much technology to the Chinese that by the early 2000's that idea was universally untrue.
That's in the third BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHYou fergot the “Im an idiot” in there…..
Oh ye of low IQ how dare you belittle the great OZThat's in the third BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Just letting some light in.Oh ye of low IQ how dare you belittle the great OZ![]()
You are either low IQ or just poorly educated.
People like to dog on Business Major and Economic Majors just as much as they dog on Diversity and Inclusion majors. That said even a MBA would understand that price point has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with quality of materials, fit, finish or total quality. If simplistic low IQ logic like yours ruled the world a $180K Mercedes would be more reliable, durable and low maintenance than a $25K Toyota Corolla or Camry but it is not. A million dollar Ferrari should be able to easily stand up to 5 years of daily driving year round including hard rust belt winters with little in repairs. Clearly a new top of the line BMW SUV should easily be able to out perform a lowly TOyota 4Runner as a daily driver and occasional off road recreational vehicle! A Rolle Royce COntinental GT should easily be able to go 120K miles with almost no need for repair outside of routine maintenance!
A Weatherby Mark V should be 3X-5X more accurate than a Howa 1500, Ruger American, Tikka T3 Lite.
How much better is an Origin Action going to perform compared to a $200 Savage with $175 of machine work? Will it be 3X or 4X better than my $375 with Machining Savage? Is a $3000 Scope going to Shrink my groups by 3X compared to a $1000 Japanese made scope?
Clearly you are a well trained super consumer that has ZERO understanding of Marketing! Do not confuse Marketing with Advertising totally different focus with Marketing being far more inclusive of the entire process from start to finish. Pricing is part of marketing and it has ZERO and I do mean ZERO to do with production cost of an item.
I bet you have no idea what the fastest and cheapest method of making a barrel it? Button rifling is faster and cheaper than any other method of rifling. Initial investment is lower, tooling cost are lower, it produces a rifled barrel faster than any other method. I am sure you thought CHF was cheaper but it is not. Invest in the machinery and tooling is far higher. It CHF is slower than button rifling.
You have sadly been brainwashed by marketing and advertising to the point that you are so out of touch with what goes into manufacturing to retail that you have absolutely no clue.
I have been reviewing a lot of F Class bipods and if you think any of the $400+ bipods are worth that you are not as smart as you think you are maybe take a look at Dunning Kruger Effect!!!!
No one takes a loss on a part so how is it that I get $400+ dollar barrels for $69 to $209? I am not buying from individuals. Did the quality of the barrel drop the second the price was discounted or is your logic just not sound?
If I purchase a part for $195 made in the USA on machinery is antiquated that needs a lot of work to finish it and it is sub standard but I purchase a part that is superior in materials, surface finish, clearances and tolerances out of Taiwan for $2.48 who is the bigger fool?
Why do you think GM and Ford are making more vehicles in China than the USA? Why do you think they are importing vehicles from China including the newest Lincoln SUV? You think it is just because of labor cost? Get real! New Plants, new infrastructure, new machinery, low tax rates, low energy cost. You think Tesla electric motors and batteries made in China are grossly inferior to what can be made in the USA? You think Aviation companies have not been making high end parts in Taiwan for many decades now?
Name a single mass production rifle company in America that is making a rifle action at any price point that has forged action and bolt like a $400 to $500 Howa. I will wait! Talk to me about how Leupold and Burris are making all of their optics int he USA still oh that's right they don't! What about Redfield and Weaver oh that's right the don't.
Last I checked there are only 3 companies in Japan that make rifle scopes so if you have a scope that says made in Japan only 1 of 3 companies could have made.
Japanese made optics glass is the best int he world but it comes in grades and you can purchase glass your self in batches sometimes as little as a single tray but normally you have to buy more than that. Glass is made in bulk then graded. Just like diamonds are sold based on asperties/artifacts flaws you get bubbles in optics glass and the more bubbles it has the lower it's grade.
The best silica for making optics comes out of Vietnam just like construction grade sand is in short supply so is optics quality silica! Not all sand is created equally just ask Saudi Arabia how they know this!
Just like when a scope says made in the Philippines how many scope plants exactly do you think are on that Island? Do you think any factory does not have levels of designs and glass quality? Do you think all plants today have a single level of design and quality? All scopes out of Japan are world class and all scopes out of China are shit? What type of simpleton thinking is that? China has a space program, satellites and are ahead of us in Hypersonic Missles. All of our cameries, laptops, pc, semiconductors are made in China or Taiwan!
Companies even Chinese and Russian will build what ever you are willing to pay for. You would have to be living under a 1950's rock to think that the USA is the place where the highest technology and machinery standards live! That has not been universally true since the 1980's and by the 1990's Bills Clinton had given so much technology to the Chinese that by the early 2000's that idea was universally untrue.
You are either low IQ or just poorly educated.
People like to dog on Business Major and Economic Majors just as much as they dog on Diversity and Inclusion majors. That said even a MBA would understand that price point has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with quality of materials, fit, finish or total quality. If simplistic low IQ logic like yours ruled the world a $180K Mercedes would be more reliable, durable and low maintenance than a $25K Toyota Corolla or Camry but it is not. A million dollar Ferrari should be able to easily stand up to 5 years of daily driving year round including hard rust belt winters with little in repairs. Clearly a new top of the line BMW SUV should easily be able to out perform a lowly TOyota 4Runner as a daily driver and occasional off road recreational vehicle! A Rolle Royce COntinental GT should easily be able to go 120K miles with almost no need for repair outside of routine maintenance!
A Weatherby Mark V should be 3X-5X more accurate than a Howa 1500, Ruger American, Tikka T3 Lite.
How much better is an Origin Action going to perform compared to a $200 Savage with $175 of machine work? Will it be 3X or 4X better than my $375 with Machining Savage? Is a $3000 Scope going to Shrink my groups by 3X compared to a $1000 Japanese made scope?
Clearly you are a well trained super consumer that has ZERO understanding of Marketing! Do not confuse Marketing with Advertising totally different focus with Marketing being far more inclusive of the entire process from start to finish. Pricing is part of marketing and it has ZERO and I do mean ZERO to do with production cost of an item.
I bet you have no idea what the fastest and cheapest method of making a barrel it? Button rifling is faster and cheaper than any other method of rifling. Initial investment is lower, tooling cost are lower, it produces a rifled barrel faster than any other method. I am sure you thought CHF was cheaper but it is not. Invest in the machinery and tooling is far higher. It CHF is slower than button rifling.
You have sadly been brainwashed by marketing and advertising to the point that you are so out of touch with what goes into manufacturing to retail that you have absolutely no clue.
I have been reviewing a lot of F Class bipods and if you think any of the $400+ bipods are worth that you are not as smart as you think you are maybe take a look at Dunning Kruger Effect!!!!
No one takes a loss on a part so how is it that I get $400+ dollar barrels for $69 to $209? I am not buying from individuals. Did the quality of the barrel drop the second the price was discounted or is your logic just not sound?
If I purchase a part for $195 made in the USA on machinery is antiquated that needs a lot of work to finish it and it is sub standard but I purchase a part that is superior in materials, surface finish, clearances and tolerances out of Taiwan for $2.48 who is the bigger fool?
Why do you think GM and Ford are making more vehicles in China than the USA? Why do you think they are importing vehicles from China including the newest Lincoln SUV? You think it is just because of labor cost? Get real! New Plants, new infrastructure, new machinery, low tax rates, low energy cost. You think Tesla electric motors and batteries made in China are grossly inferior to what can be made in the USA? You think Aviation companies have not been making high end parts in Taiwan for many decades now?
Name a single mass production rifle company in America that is making a rifle action at any price point that has forged action and bolt like a $400 to $500 Howa. I will wait! Talk to me about how Leupold and Burris are making all of their optics int he USA still oh that's right they don't! What about Redfield and Weaver oh that's right the don't.
Last I checked there are only 3 companies in Japan that make rifle scopes so if you have a scope that says made in Japan only 1 of 3 companies could have made.
Japanese made optics glass is the best int he world but it comes in grades and you can purchase glass your self in batches sometimes as little as a single tray but normally you have to buy more than that. Glass is made in bulk then graded. Just like diamonds are sold based on asperties/artifacts flaws you get bubbles in optics glass and the more bubbles it has the lower it's grade.
The best silica for making optics comes out of Vietnam just like construction grade sand is in short supply so is optics quality silica! Not all sand is created equally just ask Saudi Arabia how they know this!
Just like when a scope says made in the Philippines how many scope plants exactly do you think are on that Island? Do you think any factory does not have levels of designs and glass quality? Do you think all plants today have a single level of design and quality? All scopes out of Japan are world class and all scopes out of China are shit? What type of simpleton thinking is that? China has a space program, satellites and are ahead of us in Hypersonic Missles. All of our cameries, laptops, pc, semiconductors are made in China or Taiwan!
Companies even Chinese and Russian will build what ever you are willing to pay for. You would have to be living under a 1950's rock to think that the USA is the place where the highest technology and machinery standards live! That has not been universally true since the 1980's and by the 1990's Bills Clinton had given so much technology to the Chinese that by the early 2000's that idea was universally untrue.