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Rifle build action decision HELP!!

steveptr

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So I'm going to be building a 300win and I've been talking with my smith and I can get a rem 700 long action for 500 bucks and have him blueprint it for another 350$.


Or


I can get a stiller preditor long action all done for 1100 plus tax. It's a few hundred dollers difference and I'm having a hard time deciding.
 
#3
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I would go stiller all day. I wouldn't even think twice about it, way more resale value and it is a sweet action. I dont think Ill build another r700 action again unless I start doing the work myself or find it for $350
 
#5
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I'd go for the Stiller. Of course it isn't much further to a Surgeon.
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#6
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steveptr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I can get a stiller preditor long action all done for 1100 plus tax. </div></div>

That seems high.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nauta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stiller charges 950
http://www.viperactions.com/ - click on prices </div></div>

If you call Stillers directly you can get an even better deal.
 
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$350 to true a Rem 700 action? That's mighty steep. $500 for an action is steep too. You can find a used magnum rifle for in the $400-$350 range if you look around.
 
#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chrisj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$350 to true a Rem 700 action? That's mighty steep. $500 for an action is steep too. You can find a used magnum rifle for in the $400-$350 range if you look around. </div></div>

Not for around where I live about 500 is a cheap magnum and I can get the stiller for 1100 pined and a 20moa base included.
 
#13
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whit</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been seeing a lot of rifles being built with a Badger M2008 actions. For the Winchester Magnum action its $1185. I have read they are built like a tank, and smooth to run. They also come with a 20 MOA Base.

http://badgerordnance.com/m2008-rifle-action/ </div></div>

Right here I just built one in .308
Its F*&king Bad A$$.

Go with a custom action youll be glad you did.

My 700 trued....etc & Rock Creek barrel, which was a hammer, is nothing like my
Badger action w/Rock barrel.
I wish I would have went with a custom action right off the bat.

Go with the Stiller

AL
 
#14
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Go custom action! As been already said, if you want a Stiller contact Greg at Bugholes.com and you can get one with 20moa rail for $990 shipped. If your willing to spend $1100 as mentioned in you post. I'd contact Thrid Generation Shooting Supply and for $1077.95 shipped you can purchase a Bighorn Tactical action with 20moa rail. Also both actions come with pinned recoil lug. I think Bighorn is the best value for your money in a custom action today.
 
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You have to count into the price difference a custom action comes with a 20moa rail and an oversized bolt knob. So that $500 700 action is now $650 or so and still no where near the accuracy of that Stiller. I bought a 700 SA from Brownells and even with an LE discount I wish I would of paid for a cusom action instead. Only a couple hundred more in the scheme of things and way better action.
 
#16
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brosseau</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have to count into the price difference a custom action comes with a 20moa rail and an oversized bolt knob. So that $500 700 action is now $650 or so <span style="color: #FF0000">and still no where near the accuracy of that Stiller.</span> I bought a 700 SA from Brownells and even with an LE discount I wish I would of paid for a cusom action instead. Only a couple hundred more in the scheme of things and way better action. </div></div>

bullshit.
 
#17
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300sniper is right - a good smith can true up a Rem 700 action & make it shoot with any custom action.

Customs action are very nice & come with lots of options, but a trued up Rem 700 by a quality smith can be built into a tack-driver!!
 
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One thing that steered me away from building on a trued Rem 700 action is the fact that they sometimes don't cam right afterwards. This happened to a buddy of mine and he had to spend an additional $200 on a new PTG both. He didn't save much if anything over buying a Stiller but I'll admit it does shoot well.
Why send a pair of shit stained draws to a custom Taylor to have lace sewed on. When for about the same price you could have gone to Victoria Secret and got something alot more sexy. LOL!
 
#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Swamplife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing that steered me away from building on a trued Rem 700 action is the fact that they sometimes don't cam right afterwards. This happened to a buddy of mine and he had to spend an additional $200 on a new PTG both. He didn't save much if anything over buying a Stiller but I'll admit it does shoot well.
</div></div>

Your buddy needs a new smith then, that should have been addressed in the truing process and is easily corrected
 
#20
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RTK</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Swamplife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One thing that steered me away from building on a trued Rem 700 action is the fact that they sometimes don't cam right afterwards. This happened to a buddy of mine and he had to spend an additional $200 on a new PTG both. He didn't save much if anything over buying a Stiller but I'll admit it does shoot well.
</div></div>

Your buddy needs a new smith then, that should have been addressed in the truing process and is easily corrected</div></div>



Give me the details of how this is easily corrected. I would like to know for myself.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300sniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brosseau</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have to count into the price difference a custom action comes with a 20moa rail and an oversized bolt knob. So that $500 700 action is now $650 or so <span style="color: #FF0000">and still no where near the accuracy of that Stiller.</span> I bought a 700 SA from Brownells and even with an LE discount I wish I would of paid for a cusom action instead. Only a couple hundred more in the scheme of things and way better action. </div></div>

bullshit. </div></div>

Out of the box a 700 action will shoot as good as a Stiller? I find that hard to believe. Once a 700 action has been trued by a 'smith it will. That's what I was getting at, you still have to have work done to it to make it as nice as a custom actiion.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Swamplife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Give me the details of how this is easily corrected. I would like to know for myself. </div></div>

Look up at the top of the gun smithing forum (I think that is the one) there is a sticky by STR on truing a Remington 700 action. Somewhere in there it is shown how he does it.
 
#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RTK</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Swamplife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Give me the details of how this is easily corrected. I would like to know for myself. </div></div>

Look up at the top of the gun smithing forum (I think that is the one) there is a sticky by STR on truing a Remington 700 action. Somewhere in there it is shown how he and most do it.</div></div>


I saw those videos quite some time ago. I don't think you know what I'm talking about and I'll leave it at that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brosseau</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300sniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brosseau</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have to count into the price difference a custom action comes with a 20moa rail and an oversized bolt knob. So that $500 700 action is now $650 or so <span style="color: #FF0000">and still no where near the accuracy of that Stiller.</span> I bought a 700 SA from Brownells and even with an LE discount I wish I would of paid for a cusom action instead. Only a couple hundred more in the scheme of things and way better action. </div></div>

bullshit. </div></div>

Out of the box a 700 action will shoot as good as a Stiller? I find that hard to believe. Once a 700 action has been trued by a 'smith it will. That's what I was getting at, you still have to have work done to it to make it as nice as a custom actiion. </div></div>

i thought the op was weighing the option between a trued 700 vs. a stiller.

but since you mentioned it, i bet a rifle built on a off the shelf 700 using the same components, methods and craftsmanship as one built on a stiller predator/tac action would probably shoot just as good. would i guarantee it? no but i feel there's a high probability of it shooting just as good.
 
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SSC sells a trued R700 LA with magnum bolt face for $600.

http://scoutsupplycompany.com/shop/trued-remington-700-action/

Often, if you get a barrel cut, crowned, and chambered at the same time, you get a discount on the work. Phoenix Custom Rifles gives a discount on truing a receiver if done at the same time with installing a barrel.

If I was going to go the route of having a blueprinted receiver I would go to a pawn shop and find a cheap R700 long action, buy an over size badger recoil lug, buy a fluted PTG bolt with an oversize knob and magnum bolt face (optional), buy a barrel from Bugholes, send everything to GAP, RWS, SSC, or PCR for truing and assembly.
 
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