Recently bought an Ar 15 to get used to using a rifle slightly larger than the 1911 Winchester .22 my Grandfather gave me. Looking at a Savage Palma 12 308. Gun Shop says its accurate to 1200+ yards. A little costly. Can anyone recommend whether this is a good choice or is something better out there. Like I said I am new to rifles.
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Rifle Quality Vs. Price (Answers Welcome)
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Re: Rifle Quality Vs. Price (Answers Welcome)
I think the gun shop is stretching the 308 catridge a tad. The 308 is very effective at 800 and to a 1000 depending on bullet used- 1200 is possible and doable with the 308 but it needs a very skilled shooter to be consistent at that range.
I think the gun shop is stretching the 308 catridge a tad. The 308 is very effective at 800 and to a 1000 depending on bullet used- 1200 is possible and doable with the 308 but it needs a very skilled shooter to be consistent at that range.
Re: Rifle Quality Vs. Price (Answers Welcome)
Yep. What JSTARZ said. Shooting a 308 beyond 1000 yards is going to be like shooting an AR15 at 800 to 1000. Some guys can do it, but they're really few and far between.
Just as a suggestion, it appears you're just breaking into distance shooting. Use your AR to work your way out to six or eight hundred yards. By the time you're hitting out there you'll have a much greater data base concerning your own personal shooting characteristics which should be a huge aid in picking a larger caliber. Shoot small targets at 100, 200, 300. Invest in the best scope you can swing - at long range that's going to matter more than your stick.
Yep. What JSTARZ said. Shooting a 308 beyond 1000 yards is going to be like shooting an AR15 at 800 to 1000. Some guys can do it, but they're really few and far between.
Just as a suggestion, it appears you're just breaking into distance shooting. Use your AR to work your way out to six or eight hundred yards. By the time you're hitting out there you'll have a much greater data base concerning your own personal shooting characteristics which should be a huge aid in picking a larger caliber. Shoot small targets at 100, 200, 300. Invest in the best scope you can swing - at long range that's going to matter more than your stick.
Re: Rifle Quality Vs. Price (Answers Welcome)
There is always something better out there : ). But Savage rifles have run very well for me and for a lot of other people. I always liked how easy it was to get prefit barrels and swap them.
As far as accuracy, I have shot a model 10 and a model 12 that did all I ever needed them to do. I still shoot the 12 (260 rem).
What kind of deal were they offering on that Palma?
I like the 308 since there are so many components, data, factory loads etc. There are better cartridges of course, but the 308 is a good middle ground I think, especially if you are not going to be reloading.
It is going to come down to exactly what you want to do and how much you can spend really.
There is always something better out there : ). But Savage rifles have run very well for me and for a lot of other people. I always liked how easy it was to get prefit barrels and swap them.
As far as accuracy, I have shot a model 10 and a model 12 that did all I ever needed them to do. I still shoot the 12 (260 rem).
What kind of deal were they offering on that Palma?
I like the 308 since there are so many components, data, factory loads etc. There are better cartridges of course, but the 308 is a good middle ground I think, especially if you are not going to be reloading.
It is going to come down to exactly what you want to do and how much you can spend really.
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