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Runaway car, this was an awesome save
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That 94 has at least 2 ECM's .....anti lock brakes , engine management and maybe body ECM .That's what the guy with 1978 chevy pickup said about yours.
Wait, your claiming that not only do cars look different, but they weigh different and have different parts. Who is the person shocked by this?
I don't believe those have a "handle" to pull, they are electric and a button, they have been this way for years.
I can't believe that the engine would not shut down through the ignition button, shift into neutral did not work or simply hitting the brakes...
Also I don't believe the Collision avoidance system on a Honda Pilot has control of the throttle. Believe it only has the ability to apply the the brakes. Not sure on that one.
Si, it's a button but I'm like 180 years old so feel free to replace "pulling" with "operating" if you like ... same thing.
Also, just pressing and releasing the button won't so shit while the car is in gear and moving ... probably one of those beloved safety features everybody is so proud the engineers who thought electronic emergency brake was a good idea to begin with probably engineered into the design so the vehicle doesn't start trying to screech to a halt when an unruly toddler drops their sippy cup on it.
You have to press and hold the button for some number of seconds before the electronic brain decides for you if it's a good idea to apply the emergency brake ... probably another "safety" feature engineered into the brain that says "you are going too fast to engage the emergency brake, I will not allow it for your own safety and the safety of those around you".
I believe electronics can malfunction in many ways that are not expected.
Is the "ignition switch" the button you push to start it? Not a proper key? Then it's probably the same deal where the "brain" won't turn the car off by simply pressing and releasing the button while it's in gear and moving. If you're just coasting at parking speeds it might shut off or you probably have to hold it for some number of seconds before the brain decides for you if it's a good idea to turn the engine off or not. Killing the engine kills your power steering so there's more for the "brain" to digest at highway speeds like is it safe not to have power steering at 100mph ... might have to hold the button even longer because the "brain" is saying "are you sure?" ... "are you really, really sure?" ... "I'm not sure you're sure so are you sure?".
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Likely the person staying so and so tested XYB vehicle and the brakes beat the engine.
That should be a tell. They don’t have e-brake levers anyone. It’s a button to an electric parking brake.
"pulling" my word ... sorry this confuses so many people ... I think they only said the "tried the e brake"
Most cars I’ve been in with a button won’t engage while moving. Some even apply automatically when switching to park.
The car "experts" say you have to hold the button for some number of seconds when the car is moving not just press and release ... kinda like the keypad lock on your microwave that most people don't even know exists until after their kid microwaves a remote control or the cat.
Still a question in my mind if the computer wouldn't override your request to engage the parking brake at 100mph no matter how long you hold the button.
All in the previous post but it's a long post with a lot of words.
All the ones I know of, implementation may vary between manufacturer and model, refer to your owner's manual for specific details.
Functionality may vary depending on power-assist design and/or anit-lock design.
In general ... the way it works is you press (or pull) the button and a signal is sent to the ABS module which decides if the current situation is acceptable for brake application. Assuming the signal works it's all programming after that which may or may not involve reading speed sensors which may or may not be working anyway.
My current vehicle it's still mechanical but being a 2016 it's already more of an electronic Rube Goldberg machine than I'd like.
Next time I buy a vehicle I'm going to have a hard time even getting past the proximity key ... one more thing with a fucking battery that has to be fed periodically.
180, damn that must be some sorta record...
Yes Button, edited my post right after I typed it... you responded quick. Loosing power steering at high speed is not the issue, its at low speed you really need it and pretty sure these are electric power steering, so loosing an engine powered pump would not matter as it doesn't have one.
What I can't believe is 3 things all failed at once. IE no brakes, ignition button not killing engine, and the trans shifting... That I do not buy.
I can't rule out an Idiot 18 year old some how being a factor. Regardless those officers did a hell of a job.
Could have been the floor mat but that doesn't explain why the engine couldn't be cut or the brake couldn't be applied
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I watched my dad do that with the floor mat when I was a kid. Some how the matt got over the gas pedal while pulling into the drive way pinned it to the floor and we almost hit the garage. Hit brakes and killed the ignition to stop it. Wasn't till after he saw the mat over the go pedal.
I agree.
One of the funniest things I ever saw - I was sitting in Bay 3 of an Express Oil Change (owned by and located on the lot of the Chevrolet dealer I bought my truck new from, so I let them do all the oil changes as long as it was under warranty). I had my windows down. Next to me in Bay 2 was a woman sitting in a Toyota car they were just finishing up. The tech (James, whom I knew) closed her hood, then went through his check list with her: "Turn on your headlights, now Bright, now Dim, now Left turn signal, now Right turn signal, now push on the brake pedal, now your Hazard lights, now tap your horn." She did them all, and he confirmed all were working. Then I heard her ask, "I understand why you did all that, but why did you want to test the horn?" I swear he did not miss a beat, and said, "Well, ma'am, you're driving one of those Toyotas, and when the accelerator pedal sticks wide-open you're going to need that horn to work so everyone can get out of your way." I got a sly smile out of his usually dry demeanor when he heard me burst out laughing.
Yesterday on my way home, shitty little Asian woman driver whipped across 2 lanes to land in between me and the car in front of my truck, dash lit up and truck braked hard enough to to sling shit off the front seat into the floorboard. There was barely room for her car to fit. This all happened before I could react. It was also the first time it had ever braked that hard on its own.
Little shitty Asian woman was on her phone, she had it held up to her mouth and by the looks of her little shit box, it wasn't the first time she had done this. She also proceeded to pull the same maneuver until she made it to the exit she apparently wanted. So, I don't think it will be the last time either. It will probably continue until she meets @Llatikcuf truck, hopefully he has a big nasty all steel Ranch Hand on the front to maximize damage to her shitbox.
My truck has the electronic e-brake, with it applied, I touch the gas pedal it releases. I have not tried to apply it while moving, never have the need. I rarely use it except for when I have the equipment trailer hooked up or I've backed in in front of another vehicle on an incline.
Little shitty Asian woman was on her phone, she had it held up to her mouth and by the looks of her little shit box, it wasn't the first time she had done this. She also proceeded to pull the same maneuver until she made it to the exit she apparently wanted. So, I don't think it will be the last time either. It will probably continue until she meets @Llatikcuf truck, hopefully he has a big nasty all steel Ranch Hand on the front to maximize damage to her shitbox.
My truck has the electronic e-brake, with it applied, I touch the gas pedal it releases. I have not tried to apply it while moving, never have the need. I rarely use it except for when I have the equipment trailer hooked up or I've backed in in front of another vehicle on an incline.
Agreed. I drove my 63' for months without a working alternator and didn't even know it.
Funny story…. Around ‘95 in Phx, riding with a buddy towing his ski boat to the lake behind a big ol’ mid 80s Caddy. Cruise control set at 60 on the highway (in traffic) and we hit a huge bump of some sort.
My buddy started yelling “what the hell?” Turns out the cruise control would not disengage. He would stand on the brakes with both feet and the cruise would just give that big old V-8 more throttle. It would barely even slow the car down.
If you put it in neutral, the motor just screamed. We worked our way over to the right lane, he threw it in neutral, I tuned off the ignition (without locking the steering) and we came to a stop on the shoulder.
We looked under the hood, nothing looked amiss. So, we took off for the lake. Oddly enough the cruise control did work, turned on and off fine—but he didn’t use it anymore.
Probably a bit more grunt than a Pilot, but still a funny story.
ZY
My buddy started yelling “what the hell?” Turns out the cruise control would not disengage. He would stand on the brakes with both feet and the cruise would just give that big old V-8 more throttle. It would barely even slow the car down.
If you put it in neutral, the motor just screamed. We worked our way over to the right lane, he threw it in neutral, I tuned off the ignition (without locking the steering) and we came to a stop on the shoulder.
We looked under the hood, nothing looked amiss. So, we took off for the lake. Oddly enough the cruise control did work, turned on and off fine—but he didn’t use it anymore.
Probably a bit more grunt than a Pilot, but still a funny story.
ZY
Yup, still wish I had my '72 GMC, I could sit on the fender wells and work on the engine!That's what the guy with 1978 chevy pickup said about yours.
I prefer my 2000s cars and pickups. I dont remeber what it looks like under their hoods. I am under them so infrequently.
Kudos for thinking outside the box! Who knows what will appease the weirdness of these Autobots? It would be hard to come up with this solution under the gun, but having the idea in mind if/when it happens is a worthy option to try.
This thread low speed bear-pit maneuvered me out of 10 minutes I’ll never get back, lol.
Like a car accident on the interstate. After sitting in traffic for 30 minutes you have hope that you'll see the carnage when you get to the end
