For those of you with experience on either of these scopes - Shell out the money for the Schmidt and Bennder PMII 5-25 or buy the Vortex Razor HD Gen II 4.5-27? Have the $ for either.
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The Schmidt will hang on to it's resale much better. I have seen used HD Vortex scopes selling for $1200.00. Show me a mint used S&B 5-25 for $1500.00. Nothing at all wrong with the HD Vortex, just something to think about.
I would take my &B over a Vortex any day. March also. Vortex, however, are a great buy for the money. Cheaper parts allow more for practice ammo!!!
PS-Don't forget the new Steiner T5Xi due to arrive at dealers mid September. All the right features and even cheaper and smaller than the new Vortex "beast". The new Nightforce BEAST seems to be falling from grace lately!
I am not sure that anyone that has used the new razor has paid a penny for them.
I am excited to hear feedback and comparisons from shooters who actually purchase these Gen 2 Razors. I am not sure that anyone that has used the new razor has paid a penny for them. Smart by Vortex obviously, get a handful of scopes in the hands of a couple top national shooters, or powerful people in the community.
It depends on what kind of shooting you'll be doing. I've got both and am 59 and I've got to tell you that with older eyes the SB's glass will make your eyes feel young again. Also...and this is experience talking after having laid up behind an optic for hours on end the SB will not fatigue your eyes. Any scope will work if your going to take it out once in awhile and blast away but for serious professional work pick the SB. My vortex is on my .22
It depends on what kind of shooting you'll be doing. I've got both and am 59 and I've got to tell you that with older eyes the SB's glass will make your eyes feel young again. Also...and this is experience talking after having laid up behind an optic for hours on end the SB will not fatigue your eyes. Any scope will work if your going to take it out once in awhile and blast away but for serious professional work pick the SB. My vortex is on my .22
Just so you know I paid more than a few pennies for mine. Not full retail but not free by a long shot.
Rob do you miss the H2CMR?
Still seems like only a few (? 10-20) of the 4.5-27X Vortex scopes have been released the the buying public. Also I believe many people are still waiting for their BEAST orders to be filled. What is causing such a big delay for Vortex and Nightforce to get their present orders filled? There must be some kind of production issues.
Is the Schmidt better? Yes. Is it $1400 better? I'm not sure.
Just so you know no one is feeding me. I paid for my scope and waited 6 months to get it. I decided to get on board with Vortex after seeing the scope at SHOT and being in this sport for quite a while I can see quality pretty easy and this scope is quality.
I used to get offended when people through out backhanded statements like "I think anyone asking the question should keep in mind WHO is answering" but not anymore. People who know me know I wouldn't use something that doesn't work. We get offered to shoot for alot of companies and probably turn down a majority. It's not about just getting stuff. Also if you see I didn't speak badly of S&B as they are a very good scope but not $1400 more good and I used to shoot for S&B and have owned more than a few and did a side by side comparison with the new Razor. So take my word for it if you want or don't. Your money but when you get to look through one and handle it finally then let me know so I can say I told you so
If there is a difference between the glass in the two I doubt its huge.
Wait until you look through it. There is a difference. The glass on the new scopes is right there with all the high end scopes.
The only thing I would want in the Razor that the S&B has is the .2 mil marks on the reticle and that is a small thing that's nice but not needed.
Second question is definitely no.