Rifle Scopes S&b h59

[LRT]

Can anyone please let me know the Pros/Cons on the H59 Reticle? I am thinking of getting it on a Smith & Bender 3-20x50 PM II/LP/MTC/LT Front Focal with Mrad Adjustment, I think it also only comes illuminated but you have the option to dim it low.

Thank you.

 

[Dogtown]

Personally, I think the H59 is the best reticle Horus has done so far. Just about everything that's come before it has plenty of things I didn't like, most of which is just how busy they can get at mid-to-max magnification. The H59 is a nice balance, but some people just have an aversion to them the same way some people have aversions to bullpups - there's no rhyme or reason, just personal preference. I think they're most effectively employed on short action semi-autos because you can spot the splash, move the POI to the new POA and pretty much hit every time inside the effective range of the rifle. That's been my experience with an H59 on my Mk12 clone. That said, for a bolt gun I can see it being handy if you want to make accurate holdovers, say for rapid engagements between varying distances.

But if you've never shot one you would be wise to get behind one and see if it'll excite you or turn you off. If you spend the majority of your time at min or max magnification, then it's probably best to stay away because that's when the reticle seems the most problematic, IMO.

 

[steve123]

No cons for me.

I agree with Dogtown, it's my favorite H reticle so far, mainly because I like the floating dot if I'm in the mood to dial.

 

[One-Eyed Jack]

Perhaps you've had experience with another Horus reticle and are aware of the drawbacks. The main complaints are that it (1) obscures the clear viewing area with the grid, and (2) is distractingly cluttered when using the grid.

The H59 is smaller and lower in the sight picture than many other Horus reticles, so it obscures less of the clear viewing area. Because it's lower in the image, you will lose some of the lower grid that is useful for very long range shooting. In that case you simply dial in 10 mils of elevation and mentally add it to the grid number. I had a USO with a Horus H37 and found that I could deal with the grid clutter at 22x (the max magnification of my scope), but the clutter became prohibitive at lower magnifications. The H37 is an extreme shooting range grid and is placed higher in the viewing area.

If you plan to use your scope at 20X or higher and can mentally see "through" the grid to the target image, then you might have a positive experience with the H59. Eventually I sold my USO/H37 and went back to a mil-scale reticle. I think the advantage of the Horus is rapid shooting at multiple targets using reticle holdovers, either competitively or ones that shoot back.

 

[19Scout77]

No cons for me.

I agree with Dogtown, it's my favorite H reticle so far, mainly because I like the floating dot if I'm in the mood to dial.

Not with the SB. Solid main stadia.

 

[steve123]

Not with the SB. Solid main stadia.

I had read where the first S&B's version of the H-59 didn't have the center dot but in mine, which I bought a few months ago, the center dot is present and accounted for, not only that but there is a dot every 2 mils down on the center stadia for 8 mils or so, those dots also illuminate.

 

[RonboF117]

We have the H59 on our 5-25x and it works well for us. With have other scopes without the Horus reticle also. The H-59 makes multiple shots at multiple distances very easy. Establish zero, lock the turrets, hold over, shoot.

 

[19Scout77]

I had read where the first S&B's version of the H-59 didn't have the center dot but in mine, which I bought a few months ago, the center dot is present and accounted for, not only that but there is a dot every 2 mils down on the center stadia for 8 mils or so, those dots also illuminate.

Interesting. Mine do not.

 

[110len]

the first few S&B H59s did not have a floating dot. That was a mistake that was not initially picked up on. S&B has since fixed that. If you have a solid crosshair and want a center dot, email Jerry Ricker and he will exchange it for you.

 

[LRT]

It's for long range tactical on a m40/rem700P. I'm hoping for wind holds it will be most useful and for second engagement hold corrections. I have a permanent wrist bone injury and the less I have to dial the easier & faster it will be. The reticle doesn't bother me. However I still will have to try it out.

Thank you.

 

[LRT]

Thank you it may be a life saver for me

 

[LRT]

Thank you everyone for the information

 

[LRT]

the first few S&B H59s did not have a floating dot. That was a mistake that was not initially picked up on. S&B has since fixed that. If you have a solid crosshair and want a center dot, email Jerry Ricker and he will exchange it for you.

Thank you for the heads up. I can see the difference without a floating dot. I confirmed and it does have the floating dot.

Regards,

LRT

 

[LRT]

I had read where the first S&B's version of the H-59 didn't have the center dot but in mine, which I bought a few months ago, the center dot is present and accounted for, not only that but there is a dot every 2 mils down on the center stadia for 8 mils or so, those dots also illuminate.

Thank you. Ours does have a floating dot.

 

[LRT]

Interesting. Mine do not.

If your referring to not having a floating dot then I believe Schmidt and Bender will change the reticle out for you for free.

SCHMIDT & BENDER Service Center
Ashburn VA 20147
703-953-1253