Sidearms & Scatterguns S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

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    #1
    I was looking to get a HiCap handgun so I went looking. I looked at the Springfield XD and the S&W M&P. I liked the feel of the S&W M&P and the fact that it had an external safety so, I purchased that one. When I was getting the 9mm they had a .40 S&W(without the external safety) for $400, so I picked that up too.

    Took them to the range and put 500 rounds of Wolf ammo through each with no problems. I was really surprised by the trigger and I liked it a lot. I have owned a Glock 17 gen 2 before and never like it. I thought the trigger was sloppy. The trigger on the S&W M&P was closer to a 1911, which is my preferred handgun.

    Also, I like the slide release on the S&W M&P better than a Glock. The slide release is similar to Sig with the exception that there is a sear locking pin that you need to push down to be able to release the slide. This can be over ridden by just pulling the trigger, making field stripping easier.

    I would recommend the S&W M&P to anyone looking for a new handgun. I will mention that the one I purchased are the latest generation and I have heard that they had a lot of problems when they first came out. It seems these problems have been addressed.
     
    #2
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I just got a 40 and I really like it. The thing I hate thought is the trigger. I ordered the APEX trigger kit that replaces the actual trigger and brings the pull down to 4lbs.

    Do you notice a huge difference in flip between the two?
     
    #4
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I got to say I love them as well. So much so that I now own 3 9mms (1-compact and 2-fullsize). I also have the APEX kits in all three. This coming from a Glock Armour that no longer owns any Glocks. I also have one of them Stippled and the other 2 are going this week to be stippled. They are great guns. I am in the works of tring to get my cheif to switch my department duty guns to M&Ps and I think we have a preety good shot at it.
     
    #5
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I found it alot easier to do a trigger job on my M&P9.

    I figured, if I fuck up, I'll buy a apex.

    But I didnt, and it breaks nicely at 3lbs
     
    #7
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I've always been a Glock guy, but seriously thinking about going out and picking one of the M&P's up to give them a try. I really like the looks and ergos. Now to get 9mm or .40. For some reason the .40 is calling my name.
     
    #10
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NTRP-CKA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much shit have you bought it the last two weeks? </div></div>

    More than I can afford. I am just doing what the fed is doing. I keep borrowing.
    smile.gif
    I will talk to you about the apex trigger soon.
     
    #11
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I have been a die hard Glock shooter for the last 15 years. In the last year or so I am struggling with how much I like the M&P. I purchased an M&P 9mm after a few fellow trainers pushed me to try it out. I have about 3k rounds through the pistol myself and another 500 through it via friend who borrowed it for a class.

    I truly believe if the M&P came out the same time the Glock did, Glock would not be so popular today. Lucky for Glock they have finally pulled their head out of the ass and made the right changes with the Gen4 series of Glocks though I think it may be too late. Many agencies are slowly transitioning from Glock to S&W M&P.

    Concerning the XD, I really dislike the XD series for many reasons. I also owned 3 XDs and have traded them off never to try them again.
     
    #13
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: joe90</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do any of you concealed carry the M&P and if so do you have the Apex trigger on that? How does it effect the reliability? </div></div>

    I carry it concealed.

    why would it affect reliability? I think ti's something SW should have done in the 1st place, but perhaps it was just too 'nice' for the public. perhaps too light.

    you won't have ANY reliability issues if u get the apex. it's pretty much a better part..
     
    #15
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    The M&P was designed around the 40S&W cartridge and adapted for the 9mm. Glock when the other way, and there have been many issues for some agencies with their 40s.

    The M&Ps reportedly keep getting better and better. Randy at APEX has built himself quite a business addressing the few weaknesses. If he can find a solution for the accuracy issues that some full-size 9mm M&P owners are reporting, there will be little else to improve upon.
     
    #16
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I now own 5 M&P and the wife has 2. I would take my M&P over anything else, but still like the high end 1911 every now and again. I got around 1000 though each of mine. I have a 40 compact, 9 compact, 40 full size, 45 full size and a 40 5" pro. Wife has a 9mm pro and a 9mm compact. We use the pro's in competition and put the apex duty kit in both. The apex kit is killer, everyone that shoots my comp gun cannot believe the reset of the trigger and want's to know what I did to it.

    +1000 on loving M&P
     
    #17
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    What is the mag safety and do you think the pro is worth it? I'm looking at getting it for carry and if I end up getting the M&P I plan on putting the apex trigger in it. Would it be more cost efficient and a better end product if I bought some nice night sights and the apex instead of getting the pro?
     
    #18
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    My M&P Pro has over 5,000 rounds now without a single malfunction. Just over 1,000 of those were in one day at a class. It is still as it came from the factory and the trigger is really nice. I think the only thing I would do is change out the striker plunger in the slide with the Apex rounded one.
    I now have two Pros and there is a M&P45 on the way soon.
     
    #19
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I personally don't like the mag safety. Also I didn't put a trigger kit in my daily carry gun. I am just over paranoid when it comes to getting sued afterwards, if something should happen.

    I went with the pro model for the 5” barrel just for comp.
     
    #20
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: joe90</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the mag safety and do you think the pro is worth it? I'm looking at getting it for carry and if I end up getting the M&P I plan on putting the apex trigger in it. Would it be more cost efficient and a better end product if I bought some nice night sights and the apex instead of getting the pro? </div></div>

    mag safety is more for LE...

    it's meant so that if someone tries to grab your gun, you can try pulling the mag out, and render the pistol useless...

    they say it changes the trigger pull, but I don't notice it.

    my duty pistol has it, but the compact I carry around doesn't.
     
    #21
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: theogre</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also I didn't put a trigger kit in my daily carry gun. I am just over paranoid when it comes to getting sued afterwards, if something should happen.
    </div></div>

    You installed something on your pistol so that it would make it more accurate for you to hit your intended target under stress, instead of hitting a bystander. It was simply a modification to the weapon to make it more safe.

    Hopefully you'll have a good lawyer, and he will turn that right back at the prosecutor.
     
    #22
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: theogre</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also I didn't put a trigger kit in my daily carry gun. I am just over paranoid when it comes to getting sued afterwards, if something should happen.
    </div></div>

    You installed something on your pistol so that it would make it more accurate for you to hit your intended target under stress, instead of hitting a bystander. It was simply a modification to the weapon to make it more safe.

    Hopefully you'll have a good lawyer, and he will turn that right back at the prosecutor.</div></div>

    NICE!!!!
     
    #25
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I just installed the APEX tactical trigger kit and it makes a world of difference. I know there are many references to 1911 triggers, which I don't like, BUT this trigger is the closest to a 1911 on a 1911 gun.

    I can't wait to shoot it Sunday. I feel like this is going to make it a much better gun and well worth the extra.
     
    #28
    Re: S&W M&P 9mm and 40 S&W

    I personally love the M&P platform, however, a couple of mine have issues.

    The main problem with my .40 FS and 9mm primarily is accuracy, or the lack thereof. Barrel lockup is abysmal with the factory barrel, using the .40 as an example, deflecting as much as ~3-4mm. I dropped in a Storm Lake and the lockup is better, but still not perfect, and it's a 6"-8" gun at 25 yards with good loads, and won't hit paper with bad ones, from a rest.

    I have 10K through the .40 and it needs to go back to Smith for work. Shoots decent up close so until I started pushing out the distances for USPSA and using a rest to test loads, I blamed always myself for any errant shots.

    I go back and forth between the M&P and Glock and the M&P has everything I want except accuracy with the addition of some relatively inexpensive Apex parts and grip tape.

    While I know there are good M&P examples out there that would put mine to shame in the accuracy department, I haven't bought one of them, yet.
     
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