Safest 700 trigger?

[SolidCopper]

Ladies and Gents,

I have read a lot about safety issues regarding Remington 700 mechanical safeties. I'd like to hear what the Hide thinks is the "safest" aftermarket trigger. Mind you, I understand that mindset and handling go a long way to keeping safe whilst handling firearms. That said, I've read that Geissele's new Super700 trigger is supposed the only one to pass the military's drop safety test.... Should this be a defining benchmark? Anyone ever have any issues with Triggertech/Jewel/Timney/etc in terms of mechanical safety failure? My rifles are users, not bench/safe queens and I want to be able to handle unkindly without concern for unintentional discharge. Thanks.

 

[diverdon]

I want to be able to handle unkindly without concern for unintentional discharge. Thanks.

Perhaps I'm quibbling semantics, but if you want a hobby where you need not be concerned about unintentional discharge then sell your guns and seek a job in porn.

 

[Steel head]

I thought the Huber 2 stage also passed that drop test?

 

[XLR308]

I looked at these awhile back but prefer a single stage trigger.
Verified during testing to repeatedly pass the mil spec drop test.

X-Treme Shooting - Rem style triggers

 

[diverdon]

I thought the Huber 2 stage also passed that drop test?

I have Hubers set at 2 pounds and they are very nice. But there is no such thing as a safe trigger, only safe shooters.

 

[Matt_3479]

I currently have 2 jewels, 1 timney and just dropped the second trigger tech in before typing this up. I’ve hunted hard with mine, banged mine around, and not once have I had an issue occur on any of mine. My jewels are sitting in a custom 260 and a semi custom 20 tac. Both these rifles regularly get hunted with, coyotes, pests, deer and bear. The timney is sitting in my factory 700 7mm mag which has accompanied me moose hunting, bear hunting deer hunting and 1 elk hunt. Never given me an issue. And the 2 trigger techs are in a custom 6mm creed now, and the other in a factory 700 243. Win that has been dragged around and beaten pretty good! All 5 triggers have been increadibly reliable. From now on my money will be put into trigger tech

 

[Steel head]

I have Hubers set at 2 pounds and they are very nice. But there is no such thing as a safe trigger, only safe shooters.

Well duh!
That’s not the point I’m making.
I’m just saying I thought it passed the drop test.

Not like that’s an excuse to go running around the living with a loaded rifle because the trigger is considered safe.

 

[Xander3Zero]

Can anyone tell me what the specifics are of the military's drop safety test is? If I have disassembled/reassembled my rifle or adjusted the trigger in any way I always perform my own "drop test" in which I cycle the bolt to cock the firing pin (empty chamber of course) and strike the butt of the stock against a hard surface a few times at varying angles.

I'm not replicating the rifle falling from a 10-story building, but its certainly more force than it would see being dropped from someones arms or falling off a table. This is with a TriggerTech Special set around 2lbs and I've never had it fire.

 

[BurnOut]

Factory X-mark... 'cause NO ONE wants to pull that trigger.

 

[Snuby642]

Just how far do you have to drop a firearm to get it to discharge?
I have many light triggers but none below 2lb, slick no creap/drag.

Bench rest triggers should stay on the bench..

Been shooting since early 1970's.
1 nd on my sxs 12g as 2 years of desert dust mixed with grease froze my firing pins.
Was a supprise when both bbls went off 6 ft downrange at a skeet shoot.

I have and have seen all manner of firearms dropped over the years, not 1 nd yet?

Firearms with bench rest type triggers should not be chambered with a round untill pointed down range.

 

[SolidCopper]

My thanks to all who provided useful feedback.

 

[Derek200]

Never understood why people put so much stock into “milspec”. I was in the army. Trust me you want better. Hahaha.

 

[Xander3Zero]

Never understood why people put so much stock into “milspec”. I was in the army. Trust me you want better. Hahaha.

Not a veteran, but in my engineering experience your assessment is 100% correct! I was just curious about the details of this "test" that only the Geissele trigger passed... This is the first I'm hearing that my TriggerTech might not be "up to the same safety spec" as another trigger, which sounds like some bull lol.

 

[dreever]

I have a Bix and Andy Tac Sport which has served me well.

 

[plidenbrock]

Working on my own dream-build I've run into reports of problems with pretty much every 700 trigger out there, to include the CG X-treme.

Probably not a huge contribution, if not downright Captain Obvious, but what seems to be a possible common thread among the problems is people trying to fiddle with them beyond the specs that they were designed for. Lightening a trigger to 4 oz when it was designed for 12oz - 3 lbs, for example. Or sanding this and bending that to make it fit where it wasn't designed to fit.

Several fancy 700 triggers on youtube have issues with unintentional discharges, but if you root around, the people eventually betray themselves by admitting that they want it outside the parameters it was designed to operate within, at which point you say "d'uh"...

The new CG X-treme is supposed to have a "Fail-safe" mechanism whereby the firing pin is drawn and retained, very similar to the excellent M70 / AIAW style safeties. I know nothing about the new Geissele.

 

[Friday]

It’s hard to beat a good ol timney 510 I have a Bix N Andy Tac sport I put the wide gator grip shoe in and a jewel trigger Huber concept but I find myself always impressed every time I get behind my ol timney 510 granted I can turn them triggers down a lot farther but I am partial to the 1.5lb vs 2 oz so most of my triggers are set around 1 to 1.5lb my second favoret is my Bix N Andy.