San FranScumCo... Congressman has called for the kidnapping and execution of Gun Owners.

[sirhrmechanic]

https://firearmsunknown.com/FU2/blog/post/congressman-advocates-kidnapping-or-murdering-gun-owners

Well, ok, knob-gobbler. Bring it!

Send your legions of skirt-wearing, gender-fluid, parents-basement, can't go outdooors in outdoors club, meterosexual, lumberwannabe, Starbucks-SS, Ass-pirates out to kidnap and kill us. Please. Send them. Send them in droves! Because Antifa Faggots are cheaper to me than paper targets... that I have to pay $.25 each to buy. And I don't have to recycle them. Because the coyotes, buzzards and worms... do it for me.

So... please Congressman Hairy-bagpipe-player... please. Send them? Send me your kidnappers and executioners. Bring them in waves, in fact. We'll stack them like cordwood and come up with a good recipe for cooking them with Orange Sauce and Shake and Bake....

Unreal... are these people totally delusional?

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[deersniper]

The fact that nothing happens to people like him shows how law abiding the right side is

 

[oneshot86]

just bring a good supply of body bags

 

[1J04]

He can't help but toss Nut-Job chum can he.

 

[CrazyHorse_mk14]

Would the second wave continue attacking even though they would have to crawl over the bodies of the first wave?

If so, then use the second waves bodies, with the first waves, and build a fort, defend the walls.

Only problem I see is they’ll be carrying rifles with three times the velocity of a 9mm. What’s that like 3,600 FPS !?

 

[j-huskey]

just bring a good supply of body bags

Bulldozer with rome plow to cut the trench and roll them in, less waste of bags, energy, and less chance of contact with diseased fluids. Quicker, more efficient, and reminiscent of gulf war 1 where they did that to a couple of trench lines with live Iraqis in them. Worked fine then, work fine now.

mobile.nytimes.com/1991/09/15/world/us-army-buried-iraqi-soldiers

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

So he is going to ban Lowe's, Home Depot and a boat load of other stores from selling hammers and axe handles?

 

[Veer_G]

Swalwell exempts the government from any ban and then advocates for the forcible kidnapping, at the point of these weapons of war, of gun owners who do not turn in theirs and throwing them in prison. And if gun owners resist, they are to be murdered, by the government, with these weapons of war.

That's quite a claim. Anybody got a source to corroborate the *COUGH* hyperbole?

 

[Alphatreedog]

Trying to read this on my phone but the print is to small . Having said that this moron wants to deny me due process , have me kidnapped and murdered for a non crime . For a " God given right " . I'm outta what the fucks . Not only am I not surprised it reaffirms that batshit crazy is the new norm and rule of law does not exist . If he really said this , this is chargable and yet no charges or conviction will come .

 

[j-huskey]

That's quite a claim. Anybody got a source to corroborate the *COUGH* hyperbole?

Don't see one, looks like a blog with several previous articles combined to say "what he says" with his contribution

 

[Mwalex]

If he said that is there no legal recourse that could be taken against him? People like him are trying to catalyze a reaction just so he can go “See, I told you gun owners were evil!”

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I read it on NBC news. Posting from my phone and I am just a hick that can't post a link on this complicated POS.

 

[pmclaine]

All part of their plan.

It took awhile for the Nazis to prepare their people for the final solution.

It started with ideas and pushing thoughts into the mainstream that initially would be unacceptable so that they soon became acceptable.

This is dumb though.

"I advocate we the morally superior unarmed attacking those that believe in arming themselves for self defense" seems like a statement you dont need Darwins help to figure out how it ends.

 

[Rthur]

On a count of one...

R

 

[shoobe01]

This appears to be based on his column in USA Today published today. Read it here if you would like:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...em-back-prosecute-offenders-column/570590002/

 

[...]

i love how these politicians feel like they could get away with whole sale murder of gun owners...........as if gun owners would not.....i dunno......use their guns to defend themselves.

 

[deersniper]

i love how these politicians feel like they could get away with whole sale murder of gun owners...........as if gun owners would not.....i dunno......use their guns to defend themselves.

What do you need guns for?
You motherfuckers is why I need guns.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Bulldozer with rome plow to cut the trench and roll them in, less waste of bags, energy, and less chance of contact with diseased fluids. Quicker, more efficient, and reminiscent of gulf war 1 where they did that to a couple of trench lines with live Iraqis in them. Worked fine then, work fine now.

mobile.nytimes.com/1991/09/15/world/us-army-buried-iraqi-soldiers

I remember that.... Official Army line was "a few dozen..." got buried. Unofficial tally from the engineer tank drivers was in the thousands....

I believe the drivers. Turned it into a hell of a psyop, too. Plow Abrahms could run those front line trenches, in full defilade, at 20 MPH. Noone got out. War sucks... sucks worse when you are the baby seal and we have the club.... or an engineer tank.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[...]

well thats just the thing......these politicians are literally talking about whole scale murder of american citizens.....and not even under thinly veiled threats.....but straight up saying it to our faces....

and they have the balls to call us "crazy" for not wanting to give up our guns.....like, they must literally think we are fucking retarded.

 

[JustSomeOldGuy]

Why doesn't anyone ask these people a simple question:
How many Americans are you willing to murder over this issue?

Basically how many lives are worth taking to get what you want and take away the guns? More than a few people over the years have suggested police enter people's homes to enforce whatever weapons bans they enact.
When a not so small number of gun owners refuse, and lives are taken (which will happen no matter what anyone thinks), then the question remains. How many people (on both sides) are worth killing to remove the guns you want to remove?

 

[...]

.....Well happily kill thousands of people if "it saves just one life"......

 

[ArmyJerry]

they murdered a few hundred million last century, I think they will try for a billion or two this century. They know that they know how to make socialism succeed because they are smarter than the last guy to try it.

Why doesn't anyone ask these people a simple question:
How many Americans are you willing to murder over this issue?

Basically how many lives are worth taking to get what you want and take away the guns? More than a few people over the years have suggested police enter people's homes to enforce whatever weapons bans they enact.
When a not so small number of gun owners refuse, and lives are taken (which will happen no matter what anyone thinks), then the question remains. How many people (on both sides) are worth killing to remove the guns you want to remove?

 

[P-Squared]

https://firearmsunknown.com/FU2/blog/post/congressman-advocates-kidnapping-or-murdering-gun-owners

Well, ok, knob-gobbler. Bring it!

Send your legions of skirt-wearing, gender-fluid, parents-basement, can't go outdooors in outdoors club, meterosexual, lumberwannabe, Starbucks-SS, Ass-pirates out to kidnap and kill us. Please. Send them. Send them in droves! Because Antifa Faggots are cheaper to me than paper targets... that I have to pay $.25 each to buy. And I don't have to recycle them. Because the coyotes, buzzards and worms... do it for me.

So... please Congressman Hairy-bagpipe-player... please. Send them? Send me your kidnappers and executioners. Bring them in waves, in fact. We'll stack them like cordwood and come up with a good recipe for cooking them with Orange Sauce and Shake and Bake....

Unreal... are these people totally delusional?

Cheers,

Sirhr

Shake and Bake??? 'An I helped'

 

[pmclaine]

This appears to be based on his column in USA Today published today. Read it here if you would like:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...em-back-prosecute-offenders-column/570590002/

Sounds like he should be mad at the shitty criminal justice system that let the unlawfully armed man later be released and hunt down the person that turned him in with an AK.

 

[mdmp5]

Why doesn't anyone ask these people a simple question:
How many Americans are you willing to murder over this issue?

Basically how many lives are worth taking to get what you want and take away the guns? More than a few people over the years have suggested police enter people's homes to enforce whatever weapons bans they enact.
When a not so small number of gun owners refuse, and lives are taken (which will happen no matter what anyone thinks), then the question remains. How many people (on both sides) are worth killing to remove the guns you want to remove?

This isn't a rational question, because you are making the assumption that there is some good in these "people". They are absolute fucking self serving scumbags with zero morals. They don't give a fuck about you, me or anyone else for that matter. To answer your question, the number of lives worth taking to get what they want is ∞....As many as it fucking takes. Stop wasting time trying to reason with these deplorable slime fucks

 

[RNWRKNP]

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

 

[pmclaine]

This isn't a rational question, because you are making the assumption that there is some good in these "people". They are absolute fucking self serving scumbags with zero morals. They don't give a fuck about you, me or anyone else for that matter. To answer your question, the number of lives worth taking to get what they want is ∞....As many as it fucking takes. Stop wasting time trying to reason with these deplorable slime fucks

 

[deersniper]

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

That is the talk of a domestic terrorist

 

[tnichols]

What a tool. If they could actually muster a force (I use that term loosely) I’d be glad to provide them with the address of the ol’ grey house on the hilltop. We’ll stack ‘em like cord wood.

 

[ArmyJerry]

no such thing as a unlawfully armed man in the USA. There are only unlawful laws on bearing arms.

Sounds like he should be mad at the shitty criminal justice system that let the unlawfully armed man later be released and hunt down the person that turned him in with an AK.

 

[christopher.dow]

To be clear, he’s tha Alameda County representative. Pelosi is San Francisco’s representative.

 

[RNWRKNP]

That is the talk of a domestic terrorist

I was thinking more along the lines of a prophetic quote but you call’m as you see them?

 

[SilentStalkr]

well thats just the thing......these politicians are literally talking about whole scale murder of american citizens.....and not even under thinly veiled threats.....but straight up saying it to our faces....

and they have the balls to call us "crazy" for not wanting to give up our guns.....like, they must literally think we are fucking retarded.

So, should we call the local police and say we were threatened and that this man should be arrested?

 

[mdmp5]

So, should we call the local police and say we were threatened and that this man should be arrested?

I don't think they respond to threatened. You might have to tell them that he hurt your feelings

 

[Bender]

Bring

It

On.....

 

[Bender]

I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

 

[jrassy]

Tarred and feathered this sob should

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Tarred and feathered this sob should

And start that process off with a "hot tar" dip!

 

[Veer_G]

This appears to be based on his column in USA Today published today. Read it here if you would like:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...em-back-prosecute-offenders-column/570590002/

Nobody seems to want to stand up in the face of a more preferable narrative/interpretation of Swalwell. The difference between arrest and kidnapping, among other things, hinges upon its legality, like it or not. I may not agree with the idea of involuntary seizure and compensation, as I am sure that it unconstitutional, but nowhere in Swalwell's words do I see him advocating murder and kidnapping. Folks are making baseless statements mired in reactionary, emotional scribblings. Would there be bloodshed? Assuredly. Mass arrests of doubtful legitimacy? Undoubtedly. But neither I nor you will be outlaws, like the bumper sticker says, until guns are outlawed. When that happens, all bets are off. But, until then, let's just post the column in its entirety for individual analysis, unacceptable anathema to us or not:

Gary Jackson never stood a chance.

Gary was 28 and working as a security guard at a taco truck in Oakland, Calif., in 2009 when he saw Dreshawn Lee carrying a sawed-off shotgun and reported it to police. Three months later, Lee took his revenge by shooting and killing Jackson with an AK-47-style semiautomatic assault rifle.

I was the prosecutor who persuaded a jury to convict Lee and persuaded a judge to put him away for 65 years to life. But Gary’s autopsy report still haunts me.

Trauma surgeons and coroners will tell you the high-velocity bullet fired from a military-style, semiautomatic assault weapon moves almost three times as fast as a 9mm handgun bullet, delivering far more energy. The bullets create cavities through the victim, wrecking a wider swath of tissue, organs and blood vessels. And a low-recoil weapon with a higher-capacity magazine means more of these deadlier bullets can be fired accurately and quickly without reloading.

An assault weapon, then, is a hand-held weapon of war, capable of spraying a crowd with more lethal fire in seconds.

So Gary didn’t stand much chance. First-graders and teachers in Newtown, Conn., didn’t either. Nor did dancers at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, nor concert-goers in Las Vegas, nor teenagers at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High in Parkland, Fla., nor the people at the Waffle House outside Nashville. Like so many American mass-shooting victims in recent decades, their doom was all but assured by the murderer’s tool.

Nonetheless, we can give ourselves and our children the chance these victims never had. We can finally act to remove weapons designed for war from our streets, once and for all.

Reinstating the federal assault weapons ban that was in effect from 1994 to 2004 would prohibit manufacture and sales, but it would not affect weapons already possessed. This would leave millions of assault weapons in our communities for decades to come.

Instead, we should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons. The ban would not apply to law enforcement agencies or shooting clubs.

There's something new and different about the surviving Parkland high schoolers’ demands. They dismiss the moral equivalence we’ve made for far too long regarding the Second Amendment. I've been guilty of it myself, telling constituents and reporters that “we can protect the Second Amendment and protect lives.”

The Parkland teens have taught us there is no right more important than every student’s right to come home after class. The right to live is supreme over any other.

Our courts haven’t found a constitutional right to have assault weapons, anyway. When the Supreme Court held in 2008 that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote that this right “is not unlimited” and is “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

Since that District of Columbia v. Heller decision, four federal appeals courts have upheld assault weapons bans. Many other firearms are available for self-protection, they found, and the danger that assault weapons pose to society is a legitimate reason for states and localities to ban them.

Australia got it right. After a man used military-style weapons to kill 35 people in April 1996, that nation adopted strict new measures and bought back 643,726 newly illegal rifles and shotguns at market value. The cost — an estimated $230 million in U.S. dollars at the time — was funded by a temporary 0.2% tax levy on national health insurance.

America won’t get off that cheaply. Gun ownership runs so deep that we don’t even know how many military-style semiautomatic rifles are in U.S. civilian hands.

Based on manufacturing figures and other indirect data, there could be 15 million assault weapons out there. If we offer $200 to buy back each weapon — as many local governments have — then it would cost about $3 billion; at $1,000 each, the cost would be about $15 billion.

It’s no small sum. But let’s put it in context.

The federal government is spending an estimated $4 trillion this year; $15 billion would be 0.375% of that, not that we must spend it all in one year.

Meanwhile, the GOP’s tax “reform” — a giveaway to corporations and the rich that threw comparatively meager scraps to working families — is projected to increase the national debt by $1.9 trillion over the next decade.

What is it worth to American taxpayers to not see our families, friends and neighbors cut down in a hail of gunfire? Consider this an investment in averting carnage and heartache and loss.

When I think of Jackson, I think of all the others who died with wounds like his. I think about my dad and two brothers who put their lives on the line as law enforcement officers. I think about my 11-month-old son, Nelson, and the safe classrooms I want him to learn in.

America has a deadly problem, a problem other developed nations have avoided or addressed. Some say we’re already too far gone to take corrective action, but we cannot have a defeatist attitude about this. Fixing our problem requires boldness and will be costly, but the cost of letting it fester will be far higher — for our wallets, and for our souls.

 

[Strykervet]

https://firearmsunknown.com/FU2/blog/post/congressman-advocates-kidnapping-or-murdering-gun-owners

Well, ok, knob-gobbler. Bring it!

Send your legions of skirt-wearing, gender-fluid, parents-basement, can't go outdooors in outdoors club, meterosexual, lumberwannabe, Starbucks-SS, Ass-pirates out to kidnap and kill us. Please. Send them. Send them in droves! Because Antifa Faggots are cheaper to me than paper targets... that I have to pay $.25 each to buy. And I don't have to recycle them. Because the coyotes, buzzards and worms... do it for me.

So... please Congressman Hairy-bagpipe-player... please. Send them? Send me your kidnappers and executioners. Bring them in waves, in fact. We'll stack them like cordwood and come up with a good recipe for cooking them with Orange Sauce and Shake and Bake....

Unreal... are these people totally delusional?

Cheers,

Sirhr

You pegged it brother! It's what I've been saying. NOT going looking for a fight, but NOT backing down on my rights either. If you want a post-Bill of Rights era, then yeah, bring it because that's what'll be necessary for you to achieve you new utopia.

I'm as peaceful as it gets despite how brash I come off. But I've been victim of violence too many times to ever disarm and put myself in that position again.

Kidnappers and executioners indeed. I don't talk like that. I have no fantasy of killing anti's or those that disagree with me, but I won't take it laying down either. I'm a former SBASC instructor for SDM program and very proficient with AR platform as well as others. Arms parity and then some with the average infantryman. Years, decades in the security field. My platoon still keeps in touch and is armed better now than they were in service (because yes, we keep in touch despite the time, we're a brotherhood). It'd behoove you anti's to find another target. No threat of violence, just a promise not to back down on what we hold dear. We'd rather rip this nation in half before giving in on the BOR's, and I think it's obvious who'd win --your EMO kids vs. vets and patriots with everything to lose? Come on.

AND, last but not least, I DOUBLE DOG DARE you to publish my name, address and what I own. Because the first time some asshole decides to use that info to rip me off, I'll use your same information to determine households with no firepower and just target them for resources any buy my shit back because hey, if it's gonna be a free-for-all, I want in too!

We've patiently jumped through every hoop, obeyed every law, and they still come in droves. At some point, don't be surprised if the industry goes underground and a black market develops due to your "laws". Don't be surprised if the tables turn. Don't be surprised if we don't roll over and give in. But hey, if you can run faster than 3200fps, you just may be able to take us out!

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Why doesn't anyone ask these people a simple question:
How many Americans are you willing to murder over this issue?

Basically how many lives are worth taking to get what you want and take away the guns? More than a few people over the years have suggested police enter people's homes to enforce whatever weapons bans they enact.
When a not so small number of gun owners refuse, and lives are taken (which will happen no matter what anyone thinks), then the question remains. How many people (on both sides) are worth killing to remove the guns you want to remove?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

^^^ How many were the Secessionists and the Unionists willing to have die for their causes? Hey, the footsoldiers got slaughtered wholesale. Not the politicians. Or the business-interests (on both sides) who funded the whole thing.

Wars are not logical. They make no sense. Well, that is unless they are fought by vassels. In which case, it's a splendid, profitable little spectacle and doesn't touch your neighborhood. It's why 'total war' as practiced by Grant and Sherman and Sheridan... and almost all armies since... came as such a shock. "Wait... we never counted on having our plantation burned. This is not what we signed up for." "But... Dresden... how dare they?"

Funny thing is that if you extrapolate this whole thing out a bit... it's still the Cold War. It's Communist ideology running rampant in our Constitutional Republic... which is at odds with the centrally-controlled and planned economic and social groupthink that is at the core of Communist ideology. It IS what McCarthy railed on about... it IS what was predicted back all the way from the 1920's when COMINTERN laid out their plans... and Americans looked at it and shuddered.

But, hey they are patient... and I daresay they are willing to sacrifice the entire population... as long as their political agenda arises from the ashes. That, by the way, is core to Communist expansionism and their belief in the eventual triumph of their cause. Marx said that it is inevitable that we will end up in 'his' Utopia. And for the losers and idiots that follow false dreams (or easy ones.... sit back and you will get your reward... just believe what I tell you?) it's sure easier than getting a job or coming up with a good patent. Does this also sound familiar? Martyr yourself... and you will have a reward with Allah... you will be remembered. Your life here in this sh**hole sucks... but blow yourself and a marketplace to kingdom come... and you'll get virgins in the afterlife. Follow my ideology... don't think for yourself or strive for better. It's all in Allah's hands anyway... How is that different from "Communism is inevitable and so you might as well get aboard the red train to Utopia where we are all equal and Unicorns and crap? How much of a leap, then, is it to assume that the same tactics (ANTIFA? Weather Underground Bombings? Days of Rage? Kill 30 million Kulaks) would not make total sense to get to the promised land.

What was the quote? "A Communist has read Marx and Engels. An Anti-Communist has read and understood Marx and Engels." ?????

I don't know about you guys... but the 'promised land' where I grew up was the promise that if you are smart, work hard, have a bit of luck, do your part... etc. You can achieve anything you want in America. I don't remember promises of "Shut up and the Government will provide." Because that's what's being taught. And those teaching it, IMHO, are prepared to kill any number of people if they thought they could get away with it....

Let's not forget, there are a lot of global climate change crazies... teaching away in Universities and think-tanks... who have openly advocated exterminating 9/10ths of the worlds population... in order to save the planet... and have it run under the stewardship of a few intelligencia who 'get it' when it comes to a Utopian dream. And since I've long said that the whole 'climate debate' is socialism under another banner... it goes back to a clash of ideologies.... One that says "Live and let live... work hard... succeed... help others... rugged individualism is the natural human state and that will create progress and a brighter future... "

And another that says "Central control and submission is the only way to Utopia... and that the human condition is one of cowed herd mentality."

Well, ok... those are two valid possible human conditions. But let me ask you this... When those two political scenarios are actually playing out... in the real world.... which one has brought us flush toilets, medicine, electronics, transportation, moon landings and the like... and which system has resulted in Gulags, deaths of millions of 'untermenchen and wreckers" and misery... as people line up for toilet paper. Which of the two experiments... has proved the most successful?

And what documents.... have made it possible. Is it the Magna Carta, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Or is it Das Kapital and Mein Kampf?

Happy Star Wars day....

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[RNWRKNP]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

^^^ How many were the Secessionists and the Unionists willing to have die for their causes? Hey, the footsoldiers got slaughtered wholesale. Not the politicians. Or the business-interests (on both sides) who funded the whole thing.

Wars are not logical. They make no sense. Well, that is unless they are fought by vassels. In which case, it's a splendid, profitable little spectacle and doesn't touch your neighborhood. It's why 'total war' as practiced by Grant and Sherman and Sheridan... and almost all armies since... came as such a shock. "Wait... we never counted on having our plantation burned. This is not what we signed up for." "But... Dresden... how dare they?"

Funny thing is that if you extrapolate this whole thing out a bit... it's still the Cold War. It's Communist ideology running rampant in our Constitutional Republic... which is at odds with the centrally-controlled and planned economic and social groupthink that is at the core of Communist ideology. It IS what McCarthy railed on about... it IS what was predicted back all the way from the 1920's when COMINTERN laid out their plans... and Americans looked at it and shuddered.

But, hey they are patient... and I daresay they are willing to sacrifice the entire population... as long as their political agenda arises from the ashes. That, by the way, is core to Communist expansionism and their belief in the eventual triumph of their cause. Marx said that it is inevitable that we will end up in 'his' Utopia. And for the losers and idiots that follow false dreams (or easy ones.... sit back and you will get your reward... just believe what I tell you?) it's sure easier than getting a job or coming up with a good patent. Does this also sound familiar? Martyr yourself... and you will have a reward with Allah... you will be remembered. Your life here in this sh**hole sucks... but blow yourself and a marketplace to kingdom come... and you'll get virgins in the afterlife. Follow my ideology... don't think for yourself or strive for better. It's all in Allah's hands anyway... How is that different from "Communism is inevitable and so you might as well get aboard the red train to Utopia where we are all equal and Unicorns and crap? How much of a leap, then, is it to assume that the same tactics (ANTIFA? Weather Underground Bombings? Days of Rage? Kill 30 million Kulaks) would not make total sense to get to the promised land.

What was the quote? "A Communist has read Marx and Engels. An Anti-Communist has read and understood Marx and Engels." ?????

I don't know about you guys... but the 'promised land' where I grew up was the promise that if you are smart, work hard, have a bit of luck, do your part... etc. You can achieve anything you want in America. I don't remember promises of "Shut up and the Government will provide." Because that's what's being taught. And those teaching it, IMHO, are prepared to kill any number of people if they thought they could get away with it....

Let's not forget, there are a lot of global climate change crazies... teaching away in Universities and think-tanks... who have openly advocated exterminating 9/10ths of the worlds population... in order to save the planet... and have it run under the stewardship of a few intelligencia who 'get it' when it comes to a Utopian dream. And since I've long said that the whole 'climate debate' is socialism under another banner... it goes back to a clash of ideologies.... One that says "Live and let live... work hard... succeed... help others... rugged individualism is the natural human state and that will create progress and a brighter future... "

And another that says "Central control and submission is the only way to Utopia... and that the human condition is one of cowed herd mentality."

Well, ok... those are two valid possible human conditions. But let me ask you this... When those two political scenarios are actually playing out... in the real world.... which one has brought us flush toilets, medicine, electronics, transportation, moon landings and the like... and which system has resulted in Gulags, deaths of millions of 'untermenchen and wreckers" and misery... as people line up for toilet paper. Which of the two experiments... has proved the most successful?

And what documents.... have made it possible. Is it the Magna Carta, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Or is it Das Kapital and Mein Kampf?

Happy Star Wars day....

Cheers,

Sirhr

Very well said Sirhr!

 

[Greg Langelius *]

I'm trying to recall which, if any, wars were declared where the aggressor did not insist that they were forced to engage in the killing.

If war is so terrible that one must be forced into engaging it, why do it in the first place?

Why? Because there must be something worse than war that requires the war.

I think we are living that thing right now, where warfare of some sort (but always a lethal sort) becomes the preferred choice.

Now, stop and ask yourselves whether this society has been manipulated to such an end. It should be easy to see whose goals are being pushed; they'd be the ones who are smiling as the death tolls are being read on camera. You know, like in Las Vegas last year...

This society has become so disgusting that even the unthinkable becomes a reasonable talking point.

Consider the ethics behind the term, "Preemptive strike".

Err, Conductor; I'd like to get off right up there, please...

Greg

PS, All these 'struggles' emerge from the very most basic drive among humans, simple simian dominance. Everything else is just dressing that same dreary thing in a new, catchy frock.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

If you want to understand the underlying script, it was actually written in the 20th Century, by Heinlein..

Start reading here...

Greg

 

[Nik H]

https://firearmsunknown.com/FU2/blog/post/congressman-advocates-kidnapping-or-murdering-gun-owners

So... please Congressman Hairy-bagpipe-player... please. Send them? Send me your kidnappers and executioners. Bring them in waves, in fact. We'll stack them like cordwood and come up with a good recipe for cooking them with Orange Sauce and Shake and Bake....

Unreal... are these people totally delusional?

Cheers,

Sirhr

I read a lot about being civil during these types of things but sometimes you can't. At a recent rally in RI, a couple of us were yelled at by the MAD MOTHERS group. They told us that they would personally take our guns away and I lost it. I got about 3" from her face and just let loose a salvo of profanity that even I was amazed at. I also made it clear that if she escalated it, I would treat her like a complete equal. Needless to say her and the other MAD MOTHERS walked away.

I really thought it was incredibly therapeutic.

As to this SF fucktard, they are delusional and I would love to see it.

 

[mdmp5]

As to this SF fucktard, they are delusional and I would love to see it.

Not something I would love to see at all. Because it won't be little cunts like this guy who will be coming for you.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

What that will very likely be is Foreign "Contractors" being paid under DHS contracts, which some suspect would have already been a fact had the Arkansas Succubus been elected. Manufacture an incident, declare martial law, bring in the "Contractors" from their comfortable green room where they have been patiently waiting while planning how they will be spending their vast acquisitions of American taxpayer dollars.

Delusional?

Of course it is..., of course...

Greg

 

[mdmp5]

Yes and if they do something that extreme, such as something akin to a UN civil protection team, fucking game on

 

[ArmyJerry]

That is a twofer get rid of the deep state and get out of the UN all in one move.

 

[ArmyJerry]

It will start with the gang in blue enfocing just one more unconstitutional law and telling us we must comply so they can go home safe. Once they get a reality check the ones that are left at least would just go back to handing out seat belt tickets. Then you would get the blue helmets. At that point any foreign born person would not feel welcome in the USA.

Not something I would love to see at all. Because it won't be little cunts like this guy who will be coming for you.