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Re: Savage Precision Carbine 308
They're awesome from what I understand.
Had a FCP-SR myself. I don't think there's any question
about accuracy. But, the FCP-SR I had was wonderful.
I would imagine the PC being one helluva fine rifle.
Hope that helps......
They're awesome from what I understand.
Had a FCP-SR myself. I don't think there's any question
about accuracy. But, the FCP-SR I had was wonderful.
I would imagine the PC being one helluva fine rifle.
Hope that helps......
Re: Savage Precision Carbine 308
looks like a pretty good rifle to me. could probably build the same rifle for a bit more with a nice after market barrel.
stevens 200 in 308 - 350
Shilen barrel - Chrome Moly
Match Grade- $ 345.00
Stainless Steel
Match Grade -$ 374.00
Stainless Steel
Select Match - $ 449.00
(used Shilen as an example)
you'll need a stock but most of the time ppl buy those anyway.
if you don't plan to build it up then the off the shelf rifle is the way to go. if you want to do a build then might as well build from scratch.
just my opinion
looks like a pretty good rifle to me. could probably build the same rifle for a bit more with a nice after market barrel.
stevens 200 in 308 - 350
Shilen barrel - Chrome Moly
Match Grade- $ 345.00
Stainless Steel
Match Grade -$ 374.00
Stainless Steel
Select Match - $ 449.00
(used Shilen as an example)
you'll need a stock but most of the time ppl buy those anyway.
if you don't plan to build it up then the off the shelf rifle is the way to go. if you want to do a build then might as well build from scratch.
just my opinion
Re: Savage Precision Carbine 308
I have one with a Savage R5 barrel. Extremely accurate and definitely worth what I paid for it. Only thing I didm;t like was the Accutrigger, which I just replaced with a Rifle Basix trigger. Will be taking it to the range this weekend to see how well the new trigger works.
I have one with a Savage R5 barrel. Extremely accurate and definitely worth what I paid for it. Only thing I didm;t like was the Accutrigger, which I just replaced with a Rifle Basix trigger. Will be taking it to the range this weekend to see how well the new trigger works.
Re: Savage Precision Carbine 308
I have the 10PC in .308.
Added the following:
Seekins PRS rail and Atlas bipod.
Triad stock pack
Seekins 20 MOA base - bedded with JP weld method.
SWFA SS 5-20 scope
Aadland low rings
RAD brake - just to see what difference a brake makes. (not in picture)
Phoenix Custom Rifles bolt knob install.
Can't say anything bad about this gun. It shoots plain and simple. If it's off, it's more the driver's fault than the gun.
For an off the shelf gun, I'm very happy with my purchase.
Accu-trigger..... people either love them or hate them. I find it very usable, but then I've never used any of the popular after market triggers, so I can't comment in that regard.
Accu-stock.... it's no after market stock like many around here prefer, then again it's not the bottom of the bin, flexable tupperware either. It is most certainly is usable. I've loaded my bipod quite heavily "just to see" and it doesn't come close to touching the barrel which tells me that the alluminum pillars in the stock do in fact work.
The threaded barrel..... what's there to say about that? It's a nice option to have. If you never plan on using a brake or can, just add a drop of blue or green loc-tite to the threads, snug it up and forget it. If you want to use the threads, they are already there from the factory, potentially saving you the hassle of having them cut down the road.
So far have only taken it out to 550 yds with some reloads -
Hornady 150 grain SST's
Hornady match brass
CCI primers
46.5 grains Varget
2750 velocity
I just saw the 10PC on sale at my local Cabela's yesterday for $699.00 For some reason, it's not on the Cabela's web site at the moment????
I will say that the brake is not a necessity, however I'd never used a brake before and wanted to try one. Since the barrel was already threaded, I decided to give it a go. Recoil reduction is very noticable. I'd say the recoil is less than my AR. Muzzle blast for those off to the sides is punishing to say the least! Without the brake I had a hard time staying on target looking through the scope, with the brake it just pushes straight back. No doubt it could be my technique, but I like what the brake offers.
I bought the PC with the intentions of shooting steel "out there aways" and as a deer hunting gun. For the ranges I shoot and hunt, this seemed the best all around option, and can honestly say I'm not disappointed. In fact, I'm considering picking up another one in .223
For the cost of the 10PC and the way mine shoots, I personally think you get alot of gun and great accuracy, provided the driver does his part. Would I like to shoot and own a Surgeon, Gap, Tac Ops, etc. .308? You damn right I would! Having said that, my skills probably wouldn't have me shooting any better with those guns which cost $2500 - $5000. In that regard, the 10PC is a bargain. Buy one, determine what load it likes to shoot and enjoy the hell out of it. I am!!!!
Regards
Stock bolt knob
Phoenix Custom Rifles bolt knob install
Savage 10PC .308 in McRee Chassis. Also RAD brake from Battle Arms Development. Another option today would be the new Gen II from APA -
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...uipment/249045-apa-gen-ii-little-bastard.html
I have the 10PC in .308.
Added the following:
Seekins PRS rail and Atlas bipod.
Triad stock pack
Seekins 20 MOA base - bedded with JP weld method.
SWFA SS 5-20 scope
Aadland low rings
RAD brake - just to see what difference a brake makes. (not in picture)
Phoenix Custom Rifles bolt knob install.
Can't say anything bad about this gun. It shoots plain and simple. If it's off, it's more the driver's fault than the gun.
For an off the shelf gun, I'm very happy with my purchase.
Accu-trigger..... people either love them or hate them. I find it very usable, but then I've never used any of the popular after market triggers, so I can't comment in that regard.
Accu-stock.... it's no after market stock like many around here prefer, then again it's not the bottom of the bin, flexable tupperware either. It is most certainly is usable. I've loaded my bipod quite heavily "just to see" and it doesn't come close to touching the barrel which tells me that the alluminum pillars in the stock do in fact work.
The threaded barrel..... what's there to say about that? It's a nice option to have. If you never plan on using a brake or can, just add a drop of blue or green loc-tite to the threads, snug it up and forget it. If you want to use the threads, they are already there from the factory, potentially saving you the hassle of having them cut down the road.
So far have only taken it out to 550 yds with some reloads -
Hornady 150 grain SST's
Hornady match brass
CCI primers
46.5 grains Varget
2750 velocity
I just saw the 10PC on sale at my local Cabela's yesterday for $699.00 For some reason, it's not on the Cabela's web site at the moment????
I will say that the brake is not a necessity, however I'd never used a brake before and wanted to try one. Since the barrel was already threaded, I decided to give it a go. Recoil reduction is very noticable. I'd say the recoil is less than my AR. Muzzle blast for those off to the sides is punishing to say the least! Without the brake I had a hard time staying on target looking through the scope, with the brake it just pushes straight back. No doubt it could be my technique, but I like what the brake offers.
I bought the PC with the intentions of shooting steel "out there aways" and as a deer hunting gun. For the ranges I shoot and hunt, this seemed the best all around option, and can honestly say I'm not disappointed. In fact, I'm considering picking up another one in .223
For the cost of the 10PC and the way mine shoots, I personally think you get alot of gun and great accuracy, provided the driver does his part. Would I like to shoot and own a Surgeon, Gap, Tac Ops, etc. .308? You damn right I would! Having said that, my skills probably wouldn't have me shooting any better with those guns which cost $2500 - $5000. In that regard, the 10PC is a bargain. Buy one, determine what load it likes to shoot and enjoy the hell out of it. I am!!!!
Regards
Stock bolt knob
Phoenix Custom Rifles bolt knob install
Savage 10PC .308 in McRee Chassis. Also RAD brake from Battle Arms Development. Another option today would be the new Gen II from APA -
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...uipment/249045-apa-gen-ii-little-bastard.html
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Re: Savage Precision Carbine 308
I've got the 10PC. Mine is pretty much bone stock. I've actually ended up using it quite a bit as my deer hunting rifle. It's heavier than a sporter weight rifle, but the 20" barrel is very portable. The accustock is not in the same league as even a B&C composite, but it's better than the old Savage tuppeware.
You can put me in the "like" camp for the accutrigger. I haven't touched the one on this rifle, it is near bout perfect from the factory. light, no creep, little overtravel. Note however, if you slam the bolt shut, it WILL trip. not a problem for my uses, but if someone was buying this thing for use in tense situations I would have it replaced.
Accuracy is good, but not as good as my 700P. Mine needs at least a 168 g boattail to group. I didn't have any luck with 150 or 165 g flat base hunting bullets. with the loads it likes, it will keep 5 shots inside the 1" squares at 100 yds. 3 shots usually go into .75" or so. I read an article that was getting similar accuracy, and described this rifle more as a patrol rifle than a heavy tactical rifle. I tend to agree. I don't think the barrel is quite as heavy a contour as the other savage HB .308's.
what else ... back to the accustock. it's shaped like Savage's typical sporter stock. fine for hunting or general use, sub-par for shooting off sandbags or prone. again, just depends on what you want to use it for.
When I got this rifle, I felt like it had a pretty cheap look and feel compared to my 700P. the detachable magazine looks like cheap stamped metal (bc it is cheap stamped metal). bolt, action, stock ... none of it looks as refined as a remmy. bolt feels loose, and working the action isn't as nice as a remmy. BUT ... my 700P came from the factory with all kinds of feeding issues. I basically had to sacrifice a couple of rounds to try and break it in by repeatedly feeding them through the magazine, you should see how scarred up they are.
the 10PC has NO such issues. That cheap looking centerfeed magazine feeds like a charm. never had an issue with it, straight from the factory.
Anyway, long story short, I've really grown to like this little rifle. it's not perfect, but it works. If I had to liquidate most of my inventory this is one of the ones that would stay.
I've got the 10PC. Mine is pretty much bone stock. I've actually ended up using it quite a bit as my deer hunting rifle. It's heavier than a sporter weight rifle, but the 20" barrel is very portable. The accustock is not in the same league as even a B&C composite, but it's better than the old Savage tuppeware.
You can put me in the "like" camp for the accutrigger. I haven't touched the one on this rifle, it is near bout perfect from the factory. light, no creep, little overtravel. Note however, if you slam the bolt shut, it WILL trip. not a problem for my uses, but if someone was buying this thing for use in tense situations I would have it replaced.
Accuracy is good, but not as good as my 700P. Mine needs at least a 168 g boattail to group. I didn't have any luck with 150 or 165 g flat base hunting bullets. with the loads it likes, it will keep 5 shots inside the 1" squares at 100 yds. 3 shots usually go into .75" or so. I read an article that was getting similar accuracy, and described this rifle more as a patrol rifle than a heavy tactical rifle. I tend to agree. I don't think the barrel is quite as heavy a contour as the other savage HB .308's.
what else ... back to the accustock. it's shaped like Savage's typical sporter stock. fine for hunting or general use, sub-par for shooting off sandbags or prone. again, just depends on what you want to use it for.
When I got this rifle, I felt like it had a pretty cheap look and feel compared to my 700P. the detachable magazine looks like cheap stamped metal (bc it is cheap stamped metal). bolt, action, stock ... none of it looks as refined as a remmy. bolt feels loose, and working the action isn't as nice as a remmy. BUT ... my 700P came from the factory with all kinds of feeding issues. I basically had to sacrifice a couple of rounds to try and break it in by repeatedly feeding them through the magazine, you should see how scarred up they are.
the 10PC has NO such issues. That cheap looking centerfeed magazine feeds like a charm. never had an issue with it, straight from the factory.
Anyway, long story short, I've really grown to like this little rifle. it's not perfect, but it works. If I had to liquidate most of my inventory this is one of the ones that would stay.
Re: Savage Precision Carbine 308
MP15 ... where'd you pick up your brake from? Am looking for the same for my rifle.
MP15 ... where'd you pick up your brake from? Am looking for the same for my rifle.
This is sort of a thread highjacking, but I feel justified because it would be useful to others considering the 10PC.
I've got the 10 pc in .308 on the way to my local FFL, and I was hoping to get a jumpstart on load selection. So here's my set up summary and what I'm hoping to do:
10 PC as expected (20" barrel, 1/10" twist, threaded)
Plan on using a can most of the time (Gemtech Quicksand)
Variable scope with max magnification around 15x (considering Leupold VX-2 at the moment)
I'd like to really push myself as a shooter with this set up. But here's the rub, and my question - I'm going to be sticking to a factory load. Does anyone have suggestions, based off shooting their PC for reliable and accurate factory loads?
The twist rate lends itself to the heavier slugs, but that's about as much reliable info as I have. I've been reading and it seems the most popular 168gr has inconsistent range reports. The 175gr is also very popular, and I've seen more good reports in that weight.
So, I'm leaning towards the Federal GMM 175gr. Very available, so if it groups well, I could stockpile from a single production lot.
However, I'm here for suggestions.
Also, I know best results would be handloading and testing, but please don't try to suggest hand loading. At the moment it is just not an option (it is a goal, but a couple of years away). I'm a student and lucky to have the space for the gun.
If you have other problems/questions about the set up (can, optic) you can mention it, but I am really looking for ammo info.
I've got the 10 pc in .308 on the way to my local FFL, and I was hoping to get a jumpstart on load selection. So here's my set up summary and what I'm hoping to do:
10 PC as expected (20" barrel, 1/10" twist, threaded)
Plan on using a can most of the time (Gemtech Quicksand)
Variable scope with max magnification around 15x (considering Leupold VX-2 at the moment)
I'd like to really push myself as a shooter with this set up. But here's the rub, and my question - I'm going to be sticking to a factory load. Does anyone have suggestions, based off shooting their PC for reliable and accurate factory loads?
The twist rate lends itself to the heavier slugs, but that's about as much reliable info as I have. I've been reading and it seems the most popular 168gr has inconsistent range reports. The 175gr is also very popular, and I've seen more good reports in that weight.
So, I'm leaning towards the Federal GMM 175gr. Very available, so if it groups well, I could stockpile from a single production lot.
However, I'm here for suggestions.
Also, I know best results would be handloading and testing, but please don't try to suggest hand loading. At the moment it is just not an option (it is a goal, but a couple of years away). I'm a student and lucky to have the space for the gun.
If you have other problems/questions about the set up (can, optic) you can mention it, but I am really looking for ammo info.
Never shot factory loads in my Savage 
168 A-max OR 175 SMK seated to 2.815", Winchester brass, CCI primers and 43.5gr of Varget. The 168 and 175 shoot same POI out of my gun and are both sub 1/2 MOA.
168 A-max OR 175 SMK seated to 2.815", Winchester brass, CCI primers and 43.5gr of Varget. The 168 and 175 shoot same POI out of my gun and are both sub 1/2 MOA.
This! For the cost, great rifle. Still regret getting rid of mine but I HATED the latest bolt-release and the lack of after market support it had.
I agree as well. The FGMM is the way to go for factory ammo. They have SMK BTHP projectiles and I believe they use the 210M Federal match primers. I was at academy the other day and around here, they can be had for ~$25/box.
agree on federal GMM for factory ammo. just read my old review above ... pretty accurate. I've still got the rifle, it really likes 168's loaded to FGMM speeds.
get a scope with knobs if youre thinking about doing long distance shooting. VX-2 is more or less a huntin scope
I'm glad to see I was on the right tract with FGMM. I'm also happy with 175gr responses. Anyone try heavier slugs? I've seen some 180gr and 185gr, but less available/popular.
Thanks for the info all.
The vx-2 has finger adjustments. Optional CDS as well. Are you talking about larger target turrets?
I found two good loads for my 10PC through ladder testing.
Hornady 178 grain A-max
LC machine gun brass, SB sized, trimmed, swaged, primer pockets uniformed.
Varget powder
Wolf large rifle primers
Loaded to 2.81" which was .015 off the lands in my chamber.
I found two great accuracy nodes at 43.5 grains and 45 grains.
Warning!!!!! 45 grains in LC brass is a very hot load. It didn't show ejector swipe in my rifle but it has in others.
If you are on a budget, look to the weaver grand slam tactical from midwayusa, it is on sale about every other month for 300 bucks and in an excellent choice for the money.
I have one. My accutrigger was defective. Had a frustrating time replacing it, but ended up with a rifle basix. Accu stock is OK if it fits you. Its a bit to long for me. Mine shoots FGMM 175s very accurately. However, I ended up getting a Remington for target work since it is much easier to get aftermarket parts for. I still use the savage for hunting, but planning on getting something shorter and lighter for hunting. Just my $.02.
I enjoy my Sav 10 PC in .308
I have a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 mrad / mrad topping mine.
Went out and shot today for the first time this year with a rifle and the 1st 3 shot group was 0.172 MOA at 100yd. with my handload of a 175gn SMK over Varget. Went out to 300yd and shot a .264 MOA 3 shot group.
I really enjoy shooting this rifle and it has served me very well for target and hunting. I'm now working up a load for the Berger VLD.... I've heard good things but as we all know each firearm has a favorite load
As for the accutrigger, well I guess my .02 is that if you like it ... you will probably really like it ... if you hate it .. well you'll really hate it each to their own.
I don't believe getting one is a wrong choice. They are very high quality rifles and shoot wonderfully right out of the box. Get one and take it out to a 1000. It's a blast
Good luck
I have a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 mrad / mrad topping mine.
Went out and shot today for the first time this year with a rifle and the 1st 3 shot group was 0.172 MOA at 100yd. with my handload of a 175gn SMK over Varget. Went out to 300yd and shot a .264 MOA 3 shot group.
I really enjoy shooting this rifle and it has served me very well for target and hunting. I'm now working up a load for the Berger VLD.... I've heard good things but as we all know each firearm has a favorite load
As for the accutrigger, well I guess my .02 is that if you like it ... you will probably really like it ... if you hate it .. well you'll really hate it
each to their own.I don't believe getting one is a wrong choice. They are very high quality rifles and shoot wonderfully right out of the box. Get one and take it out to a 1000. It's a blast
Good luck
spend some time reading in the optics section, think there's a good sticky in there on riflescope selection. I've got no problem with the VX-2, it's just designed to set and forget (use holdover/holdoff for elevation/wind). other scopes have knobs that are meant to be spun every time you shoot at longer range, and also have reticles to account for more precise holdover/holdoff. Just depends on what your goals are.
I understand the knobs for range, but the vx-2 I'm looking at does have finger-adjustable dials for ranging. The leupold CDS is also available allowing quick ranging adjustments, printed on the dials. Maybe we are looking at a different models, because there are a few variations in reticle and turrets/knobs.
Interesting take, but I don't have need for a truly lightweight field gun at the moment. I've heard a few other reports of trigger problems as well, fingers crossed. Thanks for the info on the FGMM 175s. I've just ordered a couple of boxes.
I enjoy my Sav 10 PC in .308
I have a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 mrad / mrad topping mine.
Went out and shot today for the first time this year with a rifle and the 1st 3 shot group was 0.172 MOA at 100yd. with my handload of a 175gn SMK over Varget. Went out to 300yd and shot a .264 MOA 3 shot group.
I really enjoy shooting this rifle and it has served me very well for target and hunting. I'm now working up a load for the Berger VLD.... I've heard good things but as we all know each firearm has a favorite load
As for the accutrigger, well I guess my .02 is that if you like it ... you will probably really like it ... if you hate it .. well you'll really hate it
I don't believe getting one is a wrong choice. They are very high quality rifles and shoot wonderfully right out of the box. Get one and take it out to a 1000. It's a blast
Good luck
Haha, let me hit 500 first. Thanks for the tips, I'll check out the viper. I looked over a few of their models a while back but...memory...faded.
That's impressive accuracy from your hand loads. Did you ever test out any factory loads?
Unfortunately no... well other than some Rem SP's when I first got it setup to make sure I was at least hitting paper, only fired 3 shots though. Then it was off to handloads. As for the Viper, a superb piece of glass IMO.
I had a Savage 10PC. It had the threaded barrel and was a pretty good rifle, for the money. If you are looking for a carbine-length rifle, (shorter, lighter weight), it filled the bill quite well. I had a guy on here make me some extended mags from Axis magazines, and was pretty good to go. I had to adjust my scope settings, but yes, I was still able to run 175gr FGMM out to 1000 yards. The accutrigger, while many on here despise them, I thought was pretty good. It just took me a little bit to get used to it, and I loved it. The stock could've been better, IMO, but worked well enough. I think the 10FCP-SR is a better rifle, but it's also noticeably different, too. Over all, I'd recommend the rifle today as much as I did when I owned one before. Hope this helps.
Thanks. I actually just picked it up yesterday and I keep hearing more and more good things. Haven't taken it to the range yet, but I've pulled the trigger a few times and love it.
I agree about the stock. It may be free float and sturdy enough to use a bipod without making contact, but it's not as rigid as I'd like. But hell I only spent $730.
One problem/annoyance is the thread cap. It was fine when I picked it up, but when I got home and removed it, there was some cuttings from the machining (probably knurling) still on the cap. Like little bits of steel sand. I tried to put the cap back on and there's some interference and it won't screw beyond halfway. I didn't have time to solve the problem yet, but I think/hope it's a cutting in the cap that can be swept out. Got a suppressor coming and if this is a barrel problem I'm going to shit bricks.
I hope it's not a barrel issue. More than likely, it's just some filings or bead blasting residue from when Savage blued the barrel. I had the SAME issue on my 10FCP-SR when I removed the barrel; that stuff was up under the barrel nut. Hope it works out well for you.
Just wanted to report that the problem was remedied. I looked at the threads under good light but couldn't see anything. I assumed it was roughness or residue from bluing so I oiled and brushed and rethreaded many times. Eventually I got movement and she screws on like a dream now.
Unintentionally suggestive, but I'll keep it.
I'll probably post an informative thread about this experience. Hopefully save someone some anxiety.
Mine loved Hornady 168 Match factory ammo. From a rest, it would shoot extremely well - around .25MOA (there are people who will call me out on this but don't believe them-they are Savage haters). It would ALWAYS be under .5 MOA. The only issue I had with mine is when I put a bipod on it, groups would open up to about an inch or 1.5". I think this was due to the stock, because I put a B&C Medalist on it and the problem went away. I shot the barrel out of it and rebarreled with a Shilen Select Match Stainless in 6.5 Creedmoor and it shot exceptionally well with that as well.
I also had an issue with the accutrigger with the PC. Sometimes, the first 'stage' or blade of the trigger would be locked solid. I had to open and close the bolt a few times and it would free up. One time, I accidentally fired it downrange because the trigger was locked, then it randomly unlocked. I had the gun pointed down range so all was well but it could have been bad if that rule wasn't being followed. I had a couple Savages after that and didn't have that problem at all, so it might have just been that particular one.
If you want extremely good accuracy, detachable mag, and a solid platform for less than $2,000, this is probably a good buy.
I also had an issue with the accutrigger with the PC. Sometimes, the first 'stage' or blade of the trigger would be locked solid. I had to open and close the bolt a few times and it would free up. One time, I accidentally fired it downrange because the trigger was locked, then it randomly unlocked. I had the gun pointed down range so all was well but it could have been bad if that rule wasn't being followed. I had a couple Savages after that and didn't have that problem at all, so it might have just been that particular one.
If you want extremely good accuracy, detachable mag, and a solid platform for less than $2,000, this is probably a good buy.
