ok I'll bite
majority of all gunsmiths specilize in rem700's for a reason
I was born a died in the wool rem man
wouldnt even consider ever owning a x brand
I've had 2 of many that would shoot moa or better
both .308's made in the 60's before the tooling got loose
still have one of them -& it still shoots .5 moa
unlike the others that others now own
I bought a 300.00 pan shop savage for a truck gun
so's i wouldnt screw up my nice-ens
& the 1st group was 5 shots about the size of a dime
since then I have bout 4 more savys
they all but one shot .5 moa-ish
I'm still working up a load for it
if it dont shoot -worst case is
I'll
have to change the barrel
at home
in about 10 min
including headspacing
if I shoot out my others
I'll
have to change the barrel
at home
in about 10 min
including headspacing
I dont know of any other brand of rifles that consistanly win matches
in
box stock
factory configuration
here is a ( quote) regarding team Savage
They recently added the 2010 F T/R National Championship to that list by taking the team competition in grand fashion. The won both the 600 and 1,000 yard events, establishing an new 1,000-yard record of 778-21X.
Darrell Buell of Damascus, OR; John Weil of Welches, OR; Monte Milanuk of Wenatchee WA and Stan Pate of Milwaukie, OR made the trip to Sacramento, CA to represent Savage Arms. The competition featured some of the best talent and most expensive custom rifles from around the Country. But, once again, those expensive custom guns were no match for four skilled marksmen armed with STOCK Savage Model 12 rifles.
armed with STOCK Savage Model 12 rifles.
"We continue to be thrilled with the winning results from Team Savage. It says a lot about them and it says a lot about the rifles,"
Savage VP of Sales & Marketing Brian Herrick said. "We're not trying to tell anybody that they can just buy a Savage and shoot like Darrell, John, Monte and Stan,
but it should be fairly obvious by now
that shooting stock Savage rifles isn't holding these guys back at all."
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...rifles/105567-savages-floating-bolt-head.html
Yes I agree with Ring. The MSR is using them and I also think the XM2010 is too. So thier must be something to it. What I do not know.
Originally Posted By: Ring
well the reminton MSR is using it now.. so cant be that bad...
This is humorous to me. Remington homers have been using the argument that Savages are build cheap
because the floating bolt head allows the bolt to be made in parts, not one piece like the 700.
Guess they'll have to find a different reason to hate Savages now.
Let's not forget Big Horn actions also have a floating bolthead. The one I saw appeared to BE a Savage bolthead.
If it wasn't made by Savage, it was an absolute copy. I'm pretty sure it was a Savage part.
This is not criticsm, by the way...why reinvent the wheel?
I don't think the floating bolthead was chosen so that receiver manufacturing could be done "sloppily".
Rather, I think it was chosen to allow nearly the entire bolt to be interchangable amonst all calibers...just pin a different bolthead on it.
Also, I think Savage recognized the floating design to be an easy way to guarantee both lugs share the bolt thrust load.
Originally Posted By: skog
Savage does it because it is cheap. Remington does it so you can change caliber depending on the mission.
LOLZ
So when Savage uses a floating bolt head its because its inexpensive/cheap;
when Remington starts using a floating bolt head its because it provides flexibility.
Got it.
Never mind the fact shooters have been swapping cheap Savage bolt heads to change calibers depending on their needs for decades now...
I can't decide if I want the 110 action sitting in my safe to use the .378 bolt head currently in it to shoot 223,
or if I want to put in a .532 bolt head in and build a 7 SAUM, or buy a vanilla .473 bolt head and build a 284 Win or 30-06.
THANK GOODNESS FOR MISSION FLEXIBLITY
didnt know if the link would work so I pasted some of the posts