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Curious here, what is a real world time for you guys to prime, powder charge and bullet seat 100 cases using the Auto Trickler setup?
Assume you start with everything all set up and ready to begin working, so just the actual amount of time for the priming, weighing powder into the case, and seating bullets.
Sheldon,
I do all my loading on a Hornady progressive one of two ways, either "full auto" running a decap die-prime-size-mandrel-charge station (funnel)-seat all at once, or more often I separate into two runs of decap-prime-size-mandrel and a separate charge-seat. So not exactly what you're asking for, but hopefully a reference you can compare to.
I have an FX-120i with the Autotrickler only, I pre-throw charges low with a Harrels measure. Am interested in the Autocharge but I don't really expect it to improve efficiency much.
Running "full auto" I have timed myself doing 200 match rounds in almost exactly an hour, setup not included. That's running as fast as possible when late for a match! Just doing a charge-seat run I am 25-30 min for 100 rounds. I think below 25 min would be possible but I haven't tried to push the speed for a while, I'm reasonably content with the efficiency as is.
Also, I don't try to get every single charge to the kernel, I give myself a +2/-1 tolerance (using .02 gr/kernal Varget) which really reduces the number of times I have to manually intervene.
No, you won't have the best.but at least I'll have the best, right?
No, you won't have the best.
Only for those that haven't used one.The advent of technology making automation and accuracy possible at lower and lower price points is going to be tough for his business model.
I get "best", I like fancy stuff like high end mechanical watches. Yes something mechanical is likely to continue to work longer. Electronics will crap out eventually, and there's certainly more electronics in a digital scale/auto trickler combo than there is in a Prometheus (though there's some in there too).
But when it comes down to powder weighing, isn't this more about just the basics of performing a task accurately, repeatably, quickly, with low effort? Otherwise we're just talking about man jewelry for the reloading bench. Sure, the Promethues is the Rolex of reloading (and is priced accordingly), but most people are just looking to put the right amount of powder in a case and go shoot. And looking at things through that lens, I don't see any functional difference between these two options. Which means that the Prometheus is priced 5 times higher, for just those quasi intangibles.
".... stay in their lane...." really... I'll be sure to stay in my lane and away from your company.
In on an 'Orkan knows best' thread!
I just smack my Tangent Theta scope on my chargemaster until the power charge looks about right.
Good. I don't want customers who are so easily offended.
Yea I just got an email yesterday from CE that they finally got the new shipment of AutoThrowers shipping to them from Adam tomorrow and will be receiving them next week. Looking forward to not throwing on the CM then moving it over to the A&D setup to finish trickling up.
Got scale and thrower right away. The throwers were out of stock. They got another shipment last week but not sure how many the received and how many backorder they have. You can email them, customer service is excellent.
padom - you should post pictures and brag about it - like all the guys who have found H4350
dttheliman If you need any someone that works at this shop told me that had over 60 pounds of it yesterday. Posted it to try and help some people out. You might still be able to get some.
http://www.recobstargetshop.com/brow...atid=65&step=2
I received mine yesterday! What a quality product. Assembly took about 20-30 minutes and I was throwing charges soon after. It's very fast and accurate! I started with a 77.8 grain charge of Retumbo. Out of 100 charges thrown, only about 8 to 10 were off by .02. I absolutely love this thing. I timed each charge right at 13 seconds each. I did replace the trickler base with the Area 419 aluminum base and the plastic cups with a cut down pill bottle. I did have a few kernels splash out of the supplied plastic cup. The taller pill bottle solved that. Also, I've heard some guys saying that this powder dispenser would not work well with ladder test loads. That's totally wrong! I did a test pack of 5 different loads at a .4 difference (10) each and it went really quickly. I would just throw an eleventh charge and hand trickle another .4 and hit start again. All in all, I give this setup a huge thumbs up. It is well worth the money spent.
Best Regards,
Todd
Beam scales suck. Get a good digital.
My beam scale doesn't suck. It would take a $3000+ digital to even start competing with it.
My beam scale doesn't suck. It would take a $3000+ digital to even start competing with it.