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Scope that focus down to 25 yards
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I was just fixing to say, the Vortex Strike eagle focuses down to 15 yards.
And the Arken SH4 goes down to 25 yards.
And the Arken SH4 goes down to 25 yards.
Get that SE above but if you miss out the Venom is $499 and goes down to 15 yards also.
Don't skimp out on your rimfire scope, because it is just a 22. The targets are tiny, far away, and you are going to be doing a ton of dialing. Budget for the best you can afford, then eat Ramen for a month and bump up one more tier... I am considering moving my Mark V over to my 22 as soon as I can find some center X...
Doing a ton of dialing is why I put the Strike Eagle on the .22. I wanted to test its reliability and it’s been right on.
You can spend more as people put ZCOs on their .22s but you can see and hit the targets with the SE too.
You can spend more as people put ZCOs on their .22s but you can see and hit the targets with the SE too.
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There are lots of new scopes at great prices out there. This the only one I own in that price range. mil/mil. FFP. Locking knobs. Tree retc. Zero stop. and throw lever.
the retc is a bit thin tho in the 15x. Which I like. I bought to use for the Hunter series as it weighs only 23 oz.
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Check out the 6-24 SH-4 Gen-2 scope from Arken. I'm very impressed with the 2 we have. I have 55moa of cant and can dial to 550 with zero holdover. The floating dot is really nice for moving around on small targets. The quality is well above the $450.00 price and it has a lifetime warranty. I've never been a fan of a tree reticle but honestly, when I'm focusing on the floating dot and/or the close subtensions I don't even know there is a tree down there.
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They're in stock on their website... Anyone can get one. LOL
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Good to see they are back in stock. I know for a while they were hard to get with how fast they were selling.They're in stock on their website... Anyone can get one. LOL
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25 yards, which is really only a couple clicks down from 50 yards if you want to get picky but depends on scope height above bore. The gun in the picture is the same for both 25 and 50 with the apex being about 35 to 37 yards. The Arken has over 110 MOA of elevation travel.
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With the Strike Eagle you can use a 60 MOA base if you wanted and still be able to zero at 50. I have a little over 6 mils under my 50 yard zero with a 40moa base. 25 yard and 50 yard are basically the same. When I go to 25 yards from my 50 yard I leave it on zero. Only around 35-42 yards do I go below my zero and have to dial .1-.2 mils below zero.
I currently use a Vortex Strike Eagle on my 22lr and I love it. It seems to track perfectly. My only complaint is that the clarity in shooting in shadows is no where near what my Schmidt and Bender is. I placed a KYL target in the woods and shot it at 75 yards. Due to the shadows I had trouble making out the 1/4” target but if you looked at it with my S and B PMII, it was clear as day.
I just tossed an Athlon Helos BTR Gen 2 4-20x50 APRS6 on my 10-22 over the weekend and had no issues taking it to 300y this weekend.
I did not see your intended use for the scope, but maybe this is another to consider as it is within your listed price range and has a very nice set of features.
I did not see your intended use for the scope, but maybe this is another to consider as it is within your listed price range and has a very nice set of features.
Go to Cyclops Scope Reviews on YouTube. You might be enlightened, especially about the Vortex Strike Eagle.
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Cyclops is full of shit. His Venom review is laughable at best.
Edited to add the video. Does he have his Arken discount code in that video like the Venom video? Lol
Don't kick me off the hide here. I put on a plinker (so not really looking at hard-core target stuff), Hawke, and I'm pretty darn pleased with it. With a non-target gun (plinker mind you) I can hit 150 yards consistently at 6" plate using cheap-as-hell "plinking" ammo even in moderate (5mph) wind. So, if you're just plinking and stuff, this may be a nice alternative. If it's more precision, I totally understand and would NOT recommend this one:
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His review of the Vortex Venom vs Arken was crap. Yeah the image clarity was bad if he indeed tried his best to get a clear image but what about the eye relief and eye box? More to a scope than just glass. Sure it’s important as is tracking but he fails to touch on any other details. It comes across as click bait. A better review of the Arken here. Doesn’t seem like a bad scope for the money though.
He didn’t try and do anything from the views shown. Many who actually own them commented that it was BS. Owning one myself I feel the same way. No it’s not an S&B or ZCO but it’s also sub $500. Eye box is good and the scope is easy to get behind. He is easy to see through for anyone actually looking. And my above comment was not a slam on Arken but him. Looked over an Arken last weekend and it seems like a good optic in that price range also.
I own both the Arken SH4 Gen2 6-24x50 and the Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25x56. They're both great scopes for the money. I don't like Cyclops Joe's reviews. He's very biased. Understandably, now that he's monetary vested in the Arken company. That being said, I don't think investing in anything and making money is bad, just don't put out blatantly biased reviews and expect people to take you serious. Be honest and transparent.
Both scopes have great glass for their price point. Both scopes have awesome features for their price point. The Arken has more adjustment and the zero-stop still allows you to reach the full range of the remaining elevation travel. I still get 23.5 MILs after setting zero on my .260 Rem with a 20 MOA base.
The Strike Eagle's RevStop is also REALLY nice and solid, but using it limits you to 18 MILs (just checked mine, and it lets me go to 18.9 MILs) of elevation after setting it. Which is a pretty good bit of travel. 1 MIL = 3.6" @ 100 yards, so you still get ~68" of travel. And one cool feature is it lets you click back beyond your zero for 1/2 a MIL (then hits a solid wall), which means you can dial back some for closer targets if need-be.
They both have pros and cons... I recommend either one.
I know you shoot for Vortex, and I've been rocking Vortex scopes for over 10 years (got over 15 different Vortex optics), but you should get one of the Arkens and give it a fair shake-down. I think you'd be impressed. They still have some bugs to work out, but if they are dedicated to continuous improvement, I can see them quickly going places in the industry. Almost like how Vortex did. Make waves with cutting-edge or niche' products, stand behind your products, and implement continuous improvement. That's how you become something in the firearms industry.
I'd also like to see your comparisons between some of your higher-end Vortex scopes along side it. I don't have any monetary stake in ANY company, I just like finding diamonds in the rough and those "killer deals" that really can hang in there with higher-priced optics (as far as function & features, not necessarily the glass quality). If you decide to give one a try, post up your thoughts over in my Arken thread.
How much elevation does the Arken have? The SE has 31 mils and if you use a 40-60 moa base then you don’t need the zero stop. I don’t use it on my 40 moa base.
Might try one in the future. Just from the short time I had it it’s not up in Razor territory but would be interesting to put it next to a PST.
Might try one in the future. Just from the short time I had it it’s not up in Razor territory but would be interesting to put it next to a PST.
The Arken has 32 MILs. But after setting zero stop I still get 23.5 up.
I know it's not in Razor territory, was just curious to know your thoughts, since you own Razors. I would say you'll probably like the FOV on the Arken better than the HS/HS-T/PST (Gen1). HUGE difference...Night & day. When I was going back and forth this weekend at the range between my Arken and HS-T, I was honestly looking through the HS-T thinking...I wouldn't mind selling these and buying more SH4's...
That's not a plug, just saying, side-by-side on 24x magnification, there was clearly a winner, and it was not the Vortex. It was quite disappointing actually, considering I was comparing a $450 scope to a $700 scope, and the $700 scope was losing the glass game. I will give the Vortex this, while the glass was not as bright, and the FOV was not as large, the eye box was more forgiving, and the scope wasn't as sensitive or jumpy while breathing. I don't know if this is because the Arken HD glass is actually sharper glass that can transmit a higher-quality image, therefore, you are actually seeing more of the smaller movements...Or what? I'm curious to know your thoughts on this phenomenon.
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So just one mil more. Ok. And I realize the zero stop differences. Thanks.
Yup more after zero stop but even 18.9 mils is a lot. In a Rimfire it will get you to almost 400 yards and in a centerfire you have more than most people will ever use.
Yeah I was thinking PST Gen II. Not even concerned with Gen I as they aren’t made anymore. Vortex may have designed the SE to be like the Razor for eye box which is very easy to get behind and stay behind under recoil. Not a big issue with the Rimfire but more for centerfire.
When you say 24x side by side you talking about the Strike Eagle or the PST Gen 1 comparing to the Arken?
I'm talking about my HS-T 6-24x50 VPR MIL (same glass and scope as the PST Gen1, minus the illuminated reticle) compared to the Arken SH4 Gen2 6-24x50 VMR MIL.
I think the Strike Eagle will be a much closer competitor to the Arken than the older Vortex Viper series scopes. I mean, we are talking 10+ years worth of technology, and a lot has happened in those 10 years with scope quality vs. price.
I have an EP4. I bought it second hand on here. Initially the parallax was off, worked to 200 or so but not “infinity”. I got bent out of shape due to lack of response from Arken after Cyclops having their rep on his video saying they were addressing customer service complaints. In his credit, I guess, he asked the rep straight up about the slow response time for issues. The rep said they were improving it. In the end I had an old email and once rectifying that they responded quickly, paid for shipping return, and sent me a new (black, not graphite) scope with all the trimmings (caps, shade, etc) within 2 weeks. I’m not touting them just sharing my recent experience. The glass is very good and everything functions as it should now. Paid $500. I’m satisfied. I just wanted to see for myself compared to my much more expensive scopes. ZCO, SB , DMR3 etc. It holds its own.
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Does it say "Gen 2" or anything on it? I have heard about the black finish EP4 scopes, but not seen one in person only a couple times on the internet. It doesn't even have them on their website. Also, does it have numbers on the parallax, or is it just a dial with a swipe like the old ones?I have an EP4. I bought it second hand on here. Initially the parallax was off, worked to 200 or so but not “infinity”. I got bent out of shape due to lack of response from Arken after Cyclops having their rep on his video saying they were addressing customer service complaints. In his credit, I guess, he asked the rep straight up about the slow response time for issues. The rep said they were improving it. In the end I had an old email and once rectifying that they responded quickly, paid for shipping return, and sent me a new (black, not graphite) scope with all the trimmings (caps, shade, etc) within 2 weeks. I’m not touting them just sharing my recent experience. The glass is very good and everything functions as it should now. Paid $500. I’m satisfied. I just wanted to see for myself compared to my much more expensive scopes. ZCO, SB , DMR3 etc. It holds its own.
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Yep. I have the 3-15x42mm on several rimfire rifles, and have found them to be superb scopes regardless of the price. If they run the usual Black Friday sale ($200 off), it's a no-brainer for a mid-range magnification option, although availability has been a problem (the 1-4s I ordered last Black Friday didn't arrive until April of this year).
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