Seekins Element or custom?

clark33

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I am looking to put together a lightweight 6CM for backpack deer hunts and something my lady can also shoot (she wants to try hunting). I have a PH1 and love it. Any Element owners have a 6CM? If so let me know how its performing. I heard they switched from the Timney Elite hunter, if so, anyone know what trigger they are using now?

Budget its $5,000, so I was also toying with the idea of getting a barreled action done with a 20" proof CF and lightweight action. Then tossing it in a Manners LRH. My dilemma is, the parts and smith fees may eat up a lot of that and not leave much room for optics. I know the price of the element and will have plenty left over for good glass.

I have paralysis by analysis.
 
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For that, you could do a nice action, prefit, CF stock, all the odds n ends, and glass pretty easy.

Im in the “buy a tikka or build it off a custom action” boat.

I love my barrels from my smith and prefits make it tough money wise
Especially in cartridges like 6 creedmoor.
 
I had no budget and am very new to precision shooting/hunting. Got tire of hunting with wildly inconsistent $300 rem700 and went looking for guaranteed accuracy.
I have buddies that cut their own barrels telling me I was a fool not to go custom but I felt a bit differently. Custom was more time consuming, much more expensive and has no guarantee or warranty. I got a 6.5prc element 2 weeks ago and myself an the buddies are flat out impressed with it. (They shoot it much better than I do). It’s easily a sub moa gun and looks at least .5 moa when I’m not shooting it (top two 2 shot groups pictured). I stuck a March 4.5-28, 8” arca, and Seekins rings on top and it weights in 7.5lbs. Prefect hunting rig, no regrets. I would recommend it 100%.
Simply due to the light weight I am buying a Seekins HIT Pro too because the element is just too light for a day of long range shooting. One rifle for hunting and one to try to shoot way far.
 

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I would go custom and look at the zermatt arms ti and a cf proof prefit and you’d still have plenty of money left over to put really nice glass on top.
 
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I have numerous hi dollar and one custom rifle. My wife traded in the ph1 havak I bought for her, for a new seekins element in 6.5 cm. I hunted w it this year. It’s a amazing rifle, lacking nothing more expensive rifles offer, at 265 yards, I hit my mulie this year surgically. Amazing accuracy at a weight that won’t weigh u down.
 
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I figured, my PH1 has been nothing but dependable. I have a couple customs, yet I reach for the PH1 6 creed more often than the others. I've thought about it more and Euro optic has the element in 6cm in stock, I've been down the custom road and know the wait will most likely be months.

I have also been doing some reading on the Waypoint 2020 in 6cm. It's about a pound heavier (6.6 lbs) but have heard decent things about them. Leaning 60/40 element.
 
The elements a níche rifle, extremely light, you cannot build one lighter for near the price. They run a custom contour to keep muzzle 5/8x24 but is super light with fluting. Here's a comparable custom build: Ti action, 1500-1700$, Uber light carbon stock 700+, fluted Barrel+ smith work, 900$, trigger, bottom metal and bedding 500$, every havak I've been around has shot great. Now that nrl hunter has no power factor for factory class, havak ph2 in 6cm is THE gamer gun. Unfortunately a picked up a ctr prior to the new power factor rules or I'd gone havak all day.