There are some places that do adjustable kydex adjustable cheek pieces. If you go back to the earlier pages of this thread a guy has his sent out and had a one very nicely done.
Seekins HAVAK Precision Rifle
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Anyone have a good starting load using h4350 for the Havak? Available bullets are hornady 143's and 147's.
Got my Havak in today. Fit and finish is stellar. Bolt lift and throw is a bit heavy but I expect it to loosen up a bit. Bolt does not bind or is not gritty. I wiped it down with a clean rag, used a bit of lube and it was very smooth. Trigger is crisp, a little heavy for my liking but it can be adjusted, probably 3.5lbs. I was definitely bummed it did not come with the carbon fiber mag, as I was told by the customer service rep that it would. Action to barrel fit and bedding appears to be well done. I mounted it up with a Bushnell DMR-2i, Harris bipod, Short Action Precision sling, and a Seekins ATC muzzle break. I will definitely be cerakoting the silver action and barrel to a matte or graphite black. Before that I will be shooting it tomorrow with factory Hornady 143 ELD-X and 147 ELD-M. Will make a post regarding accuracy and velocity on Labradar. I'll put pics up soon! Purhase time to my FFL was a little over 3 months!
I got a 6.5CM no carbon fiber mag, only a magpul AICS 5rd. I'm gonna email them about it but I'm sure they will say that they cant keep up with production or something. Just kind of a bummer since that was a very unique part of the rifle I was interested in.
I picked up my Seekins from FFL last night too. I couldn’t ask for the action to be any smoother than it is. Similar to my 591 Surgeon.
So off problem - never ran into this.
Seekins Precison Havak 6.5creed
Brand new in box Medium height 30mm badger rings.
Freshly pulled Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x42 glass.
Mounted everything up, ran out of windage to thr Left.
Ran out of elevation going down. Rifle shoots 9” to right at 75yards and 4” High.
How in the hell is this happening!??!
I pulled the Nightforce, pulled the rings, and remounted. Same results.
I have Seekins rings in the mail - but I’m out in the woods hunting and they are 120 miles from me.
Super bummed.
So off problem - never ran into this.
Seekins Precison Havak 6.5creed
Brand new in box Medium height 30mm badger rings.
Freshly pulled Nightforce NXS 2.5-10x42 glass.
Mounted everything up, ran out of windage to thr Left.
Ran out of elevation going down. Rifle shoots 9” to right at 75yards and 4” High.
How in the hell is this happening!??!
I pulled the Nightforce, pulled the rings, and remounted. Same results.
I have Seekins rings in the mail - but I’m out in the woods hunting and they are 120 miles from me.
Super bummed.
I would make sure everything is tight then put ring alignment bars on rings to make sure everything is lined up. If that’s not the problem, the list is too big.
I’m super confused.
The only thing I can come up with is the Seekins rail isn’t square? It’s factory installed and I don’t need to adjust right?
It doesn’t look like it can adjust.
I’m heading home from hunting this PM and will slap Seekins rings on to check.
The only thing I can come up with is the Seekins rail isn’t square? It’s factory installed and I don’t need to adjust right?
It doesn’t look like it can adjust.
I’m heading home from hunting this PM and will slap Seekins rings on to check.
Yes, shift difference maybe 1/4” as Templar advertised. I’m going to peel the scope off the rings, rings off the base, and check Seekins base screws to make sure they’re tight.
Might pull base and reinstall.
Shot 40 rounds through the Havak a few days back. Accuracy was .3 to .9 in varying 3 and 5 shot groups. As I expected, trigger was heavier than I would have liked. I just lightened it up and am going to put 60 more rounds through today or tomorrow. Only thing I don't like is that even with Seekins Low rings (.92), cheek weld is still very low and I have to torque my neck in an uncomfortable position. I may do an adjustable cheek piece or but some sort of stock pad/pack. Needs to be lifted 1/4 to 1/2 inch IMO.
I am trying one of the Bradley adjustable cheek rests on mine. I have the Havak with the Mcmillan Game Warden stock.
Okay, I feel like a total dork. I’m home now.
I thought I had pulled the Nightforce cap (Allen) and adjusted windage, and I had only pulled and adjusted the elevation knob - not windage. Triple checked myself just to be sure and found it.
I’m good on windage which was my biggest worry. I’m out of elevation and still shooting high - but I’m sure that’s the 20 MOA rail.
I was slinging Barnes lighter weight pills and I’m going to be hunting with 143gr ELDX - which I just picked up and will try to sight back in shortly.
I thought I had pulled the Nightforce cap (Allen) and adjusted windage, and I had only pulled and adjusted the elevation knob - not windage. Triple checked myself just to be sure and found it.
I’m good on windage which was my biggest worry. I’m out of elevation and still shooting high - but I’m sure that’s the 20 MOA rail.
I was slinging Barnes lighter weight pills and I’m going to be hunting with 143gr ELDX - which I just picked up and will try to sight back in shortly.
Do you drop the action from the stock to adjust the trigger? It’s too heavy for me as well.
And yes - I agree on the stock. After hunting season I need to send it off for the adjustable piece modification.
That nightforce has 100 MOA of elevation adjustment, a 20 moa rail isn’t going to max you out. Did you readjust your zero stop to accommodate for the rail?
That trigger can go down to 1.5 lbs reliably. Please let us know if you need any help!
I got my rifle today. It’s beautiful. Pictures don’t do justice. Action is extremely smooth. the balance of rifle is for lack of a better word comforting . Came with carbon mag. I’m happy as I can be with a rifle without shooting it. Also perfect weight for a hunting rifle in 300 winmag.
It’s actually the 2.5-10x32 non-zero stop model. My other NF Zero-Stops have 4 Allen’s after pulling caps, and I didn’t realize after pulling the cap there was 1 Allen screw horizontally that allowed me to adjust more elevation on the non-zero stop model. The instructions don’t say anything of the sort.
Got it figured out - and can’t wait to shoot again this weekend up hunting!!!
I have been following this while I was waiting for my rifle in 300 win mag. Ordered it in March and I picked it up yesterday. I went to sight it in- Loaded it with some PPU ammo just to get it on paper- pulled the trigger and all I got was a click. 3 out of 4 of the rounds didn't fire. So I tried the ammo I was going to sight it in with, some ABM (berger) and 2 out of 4 didn't work. It looks like a pretty weak strike on the primers.
I was disappointed that it made it out of GC with the problem.... but I'm sure Seekins will fix it or give me the parts.
But what bothers me the most (and maybe it's not a big deal) is the chamber. On my headspace gauge my brass grew .013, and using the Redding competition shell holder kit I could use the +.010 holder and get the .002 shoulder bump. I then tried fired brass from 2 other 300wm's and they both chambered with no problem. They were just off the shelf rifles- Was I wrong to expect the Havak to have a small chamber?
I was disappointed that it made it out of GC with the problem.... but I'm sure Seekins will fix it or give me the parts.
But what bothers me the most (and maybe it's not a big deal) is the chamber. On my headspace gauge my brass grew .013, and using the Redding competition shell holder kit I could use the +.010 holder and get the .002 shoulder bump. I then tried fired brass from 2 other 300wm's and they both chambered with no problem. They were just off the shelf rifles- Was I wrong to expect the Havak to have a small chamber?
How are you folks liking the new Seekins PH1 stock? How does it compare to the McMillan and Manners?
Mine just came with the magpul. Now it’s in the Bravo and it’s a very nice set up
I picked up one in 6.5 CM from Mile High recently. Very smooth after running the bolt a few hundred times. Shot a match with it and it ran great. I have since tried an AW mag in it and it definitely works better with AW mags than with the Magpul 5 or 10 rounders.
I'm new to belted magnums (Havak 300 WM is my first) but i was also surprised to see 0.015" base-to-shoulder growth on first firing. After looking around it seems this is pretty common in 300 WM chambers. I found a number of examples where people are seeing their shoulders move forward over 0.020".
#'s for consideration:
-saami CASE minimum Base-to-shoulder dimension = 2.263.
-saami CHAMBER maximum Base-to-shoulder dimension = 2.2791.
-Maximum growth with minimum dimension case and maximum dimension chamber: 2.2791 - 2.263 = .0161".
Edit: I previously indicated that Seekins wasn't responding to my emails. I have since found responses in my Junk inbox. They did miss one email but I'd have been fired long ago if that was a serious infraction. Apologies for incorrectly representing the situation.
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The only Micky or Manners stocks I've owned are an EH-3 and EH-SL. The seekins stock is stiffer than both of the Manners, it's nicely done. For people who obsess about a flawless finish they might be a step down from Manners but it is more than sufficient to make me happy.
Got the Havak some glass today. VX6HD 4-24
FNG here. I've been a 3 gun shooter for years and since moving to the Texas panhandle, the 3 gun matches are few and far between and the longer range opportunities are more abundant. I've shot at Raton and Woodward and my measly 5.56 just isn't enough for me anymore.
I've been researching hard and have settled on the Havak Pro HP1. It has most of the features I want, with the Seekins reputation, R700 footprint so a boatload of accessories (even if some slight modification is required). This will mostly be a match style gun and I think it will work fine for as much as I currently shoot. I reload but like having the ability to get factory ammo. I was looking for 6CM and emailed Seekins asking if the HP1 would be offered in 6CM and they said basically subscribe to the email newsletter and watch for new stuff at SHOT. So I am thinking about just going 6.5CM and later getting a 6CM barrel from Seekins (when they ever offer them) or one of the other places that will make barrels for it.
I already have an optic mil/mil FFP 34mm tube and 56mm objective, what Seekins rings would I need for the Havak Pro HP1? Low, Medium, High?
I would also be interested in knowing more about the ability to swap bolt knobs as I've seen it talked about before in this thread but not really in any detail.
I have some funds and I am ready to "pull the trigger" on this rifle. I'm hoping to have it in time for the Sporting Rifle matches in Raton next year.
I've been researching hard and have settled on the Havak Pro HP1. It has most of the features I want, with the Seekins reputation, R700 footprint so a boatload of accessories (even if some slight modification is required). This will mostly be a match style gun and I think it will work fine for as much as I currently shoot. I reload but like having the ability to get factory ammo. I was looking for 6CM and emailed Seekins asking if the HP1 would be offered in 6CM and they said basically subscribe to the email newsletter and watch for new stuff at SHOT. So I am thinking about just going 6.5CM and later getting a 6CM barrel from Seekins (when they ever offer them) or one of the other places that will make barrels for it.
I already have an optic mil/mil FFP 34mm tube and 56mm objective, what Seekins rings would I need for the Havak Pro HP1? Low, Medium, High?
I would also be interested in knowing more about the ability to swap bolt knobs as I've seen it talked about before in this thread but not really in any detail.
I have some funds and I am ready to "pull the trigger" on this rifle. I'm hoping to have it in time for the Sporting Rifle matches in Raton next year.
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I started with lows, moved to 1" mediums, and now currently on 1.26" highs because of the adjustable cheek piece I am currently running. I could personally purchase 1" mediums.
I'm in the same boat with you, I wonder if anybody has changed out the bolt knobs. I'm getting a new barrel spun on this winter on and going to ask the smith if he can do something about the havak's bolt.
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What’s your total weight, without bipod on that guy? I may buy the same setup in the next couple weeks.
Finally got the 28 Nosler rung out. Was waiting on cooler weather.
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(3) shot group at 100 yds. I know it should have been 5 shot group
Factory Ammo
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(3) shot group at 100 yds. I know it should have been 5 shot group
Factory Ammo
Got my Havak in .300 WM on 10/23, ordered 6/15. It had a loose barrel that I discovered when I was removing the thread protector! The barrel was not as tight as the thread protector, so I’m not to happy to put it lightly. I called Seekins Precision and the rep tried to make it as palatable as possible by sending my gunsmith the action wrench to fix the loose barrel problem, but I’m not exactly over it, and yes they would’ve fixed it but I told them it’s my choice to send it back and not have the rifle for hunting this season or have it fixed on my dime and hunt, so I chose the latter and kept the rifle had it Cerakoted Burnt Bronze and put on a Athlon Cronus in Brown with ARC mounts and turned out great, BUT IF Seekins had shot the rifle, and had better QC there would be no such issue’s involving a potential catastrophic failure over not properly doing QC on the rifle, and had I not been just checking over the gun and slapped a scope on the rifle and fired it they would be a MUCH worse situation they would be dealing with. I have 3 other Seekins Precision rifles (AR’s) and love them and two are sub MOA the other is a pistol in .300 Blk, but the Havak is my last one and I’m not sure if I’ll keep it after the season is over or not yet BUT when I do buy another rifle it will be a test fired rifle, and had they just sent a new rifle out I’d be fine it’s just ruined my confidence in their QC and customer service period and had it been in june instead of October I would’ve sent it back and got a refund, but having sold my other bolt gun not many options were available in a week’s time...Turned out ok though after all that
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