Shipping AR10 Pistol

[Doc68]

Have a few questions here:

1. Does a pistol have to be shipped overnight?
2. Could I take off pistol buffer tube and then just ship as a reciever?
3. If i went with number 2, would i be able to ship all parts in same box?

Doc

 

[hlee]

How was the receiver listed on the 4473 that transferred it to you? That is question 1. All else follows from that.

 

[Doc68]

Just a reciever.

 

[Doc68]

It was an upper/lower set.

Doc

 

[Clob McStrunk]

Approach desk at USPS/Fedex/UPS, inquire rates and times to ship your "mechanical assembly", insure for whatever you feel appropriate, send it down range. Success!

 

[Dolomite_Supafly]

Was is sold or built by you as a "pistol"?

If built by you take the upper off, take the brace off and ship them separated through USPS.

The lower without a brace is nothing more than a receiver at that point as it can be assembled into either a rifle or a pistol. The upper is not regulated. You can ship anything other than a pistol through USPS, including a receiver. To make sure you are 100% good you could also ship the lower in one box and the upper and brace in another.

 

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Was is sold or built by you as a "pistol"?

If built by you take the upper off, take the brace off and ship them separated through USPS.

The lower without a brace is nothing more than a receiver at that point as it can be assembled into either a rifle or a pistol. The upper is not regulated. You can ship anything other than a pistol through USPS, including a receiver. To make sure you are 100% good you could also ship the lower in one box and the upper and brace in another.

according to the ATF....once you assembly the lower, thats what it reamains for life....generally.

you assemble it as a rifle, its always a rifle......you cant just reconfigure it to be a pistol....legally speaking.

and once you assemble it into a pistol, you CAN convert it into a rifle, and then back into a pistol......but it will no longer ever be a "receiver" or "other firearm".....it will either be a "pistol" or a "rifle", legally speaking.....a pistol lower without a brace on it is still a pistol lower.

i would mount a rifle buffer tube and stock to it, and ship it as a rifle*


*i am not a fucking lawyer, i am a retard on the internet, take my advice as such.

 

[Dolomite_Supafly]

according to the ATF....once you assembly the lower, thats what it reamains for life.....

you assemble it as a rifle, its always a rifle......you cant just reconfigure it to be a pistol....legally speaking.

and once you assemble it into a pistol, you CAN convert it into a rifle, and then back into a pistol......but it will no longer ever be a "receiver" or "other firearm".....it will either be a "pistol" or a "rifle", legally speaking.

i would mount a rifle buffer tube and stock to it, and ship it as a rifle*


*i am not a fucking lawyer, i am a retard on the internet, take my advice as such.

A standard RIFLE or CARBINE buffer tube is legal on a pistol. Any buffer tube is legal on a pistol so long as it is not a stock in an of itself. You can legally use a rifle tube or a carbine tube that were designed to readily accept stocks.

It is the stock that makes it a rifle on a completed firearm. ATF has even said that a completed lower shipped with a RIFLE stock isn't a rifle. The ATF has said the classification cannot be determined until the weapon is in its assembled configuration. An assembled AR lower (without an upper) can be engraved with "rifle", the FFL can transfer it as a rifle and it can have a rifle stock at the time it is transferred and it is still not a RIFLE, that happens when you add an upper. ATF has said it in several opinion letters stating that what is marked on the form and on the gun itself is not what determines what the firearm is.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Kinda fucks up that "Shall Not Be Infringed" thing, doesn't it?
Fuck the ATF

 

[Dolomite_Supafly]

Kinda fucks up that "Shall Not Be Infringed" thing, doesn't it?
Fuck the ATF

Yep, like every other federal enforcement agency they too punish the ignorant. Most criminal investigations start with the .gov asking some sap to do something that the sap doesn't know is illegal. Then they get caught doing the thing they would have never done in the first place had it not been for the .gov.

Then when there are real threats, that they are told about, they drop the ball but to save face they always have some sap waiting for his turn to run afoul of our government.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Kinda fucks up that "Shall Not Be Infringed" thing, doesn't it?
Fuck the ATF

But...but...
Our forefathers couldn't POSSIBLY have foreseen the super dangerous nature of the weapons we have today.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Well actually.

But...but...
Our forefathers couldn't POSSIBLY have foreseen the super dangerous nature of the weapons we have today.

 

[Doc68]

Thank you all.

I will be shipping lower separate and all other things in another box.

Appreciate all the feedback.

Doc