Short .223 Bolt Flash Hider

[Mr. F]

Hey, so recently ive gotten a bug to cut down my 26" Heavy varmint .223 to 16.5" and have it threaded for a hider (Brake / SS maybe down the line). My question is: What hider would be your pick based off experience regarding accuracy.

I get that if the cut and thread job, and the install of the device is done right there should be no detrimental effect on accuracy. Still i want to make sure there is not something else im missing or even pick a hider thats no go.

Right now im leaning towards a SF three prong hider. The gun will not be shot suppressed for now. It mostly a truck folder. I will consider any and all hiders at this point and if you ve had a positive experience with a particular one on a setup similar to the one i'll end up with, please share!!

Kind regards.

J.

 

[spife7980]

One question, why do you want a flash hider?

A brake would net you a performance gain in that it minimizes recoil but if youre using it as a truck gun that might not be a great idea just because of hearing protection. I would go bare muzzle over a flash hider.

 

[Hoser]

Thunderbeast flash hider. Add the can later.

 

[308pirate]

I would go bare muzzle over a flash hider.

This makes zero sense. What possible advantage is there to a bare muzzle over one with a flash suppressor?

 

[Mr. F]

One question, why do you want a flash hider?

A brake would net you a performance gain in that it minimizes recoil but if youre using it as a truck gun that might not be a great idea just because of hearing protection. I would go bare muzzle over a flash hider.

When i say "truck gun" i mean a gun that will mostly ride with me, not one that i'll be discharging from inside my truck. Not asking about a break anyway although im not closed to options, its just that the gun is a pig as it is and the benefit from a break would be minimal.

A flash suppressor on the other hand serves a purpose for me.

J.

 

[308pirate]

Is there anything lacking about the good ol M16A2 flash suppressor?

They are cheap and available just about anywhere.

 

[Mr. F]

Is there anything lacking about the good ol M16A2 flash suppressor?

They are cheap and available just about anywhere.

Actually no, i just though id ask since there is a new flavor out each month. Maybe the flavor from a few months back is a nice fit for my gun. Remember im cutting down a Heavy Varmint bartlein from 26 to 16.5" so it i'll look funny as hell with a A2 on the tip... just my opinion.

 

[spife7980]

This makes zero sense. What possible advantage is there to a bare muzzle over one with a flash suppressor?

Idk, weight, length, the lack of annoying tuning fork ringing, keeping 70 bucks in your pocket. What possible advantage is there to having a flash suppressor if there isnt anyone shooting back at you that you need to hide from?

A flash suppressor on the other hand serves a purpose for me.

Just for my own curiosities, what does the flash suppressor do for you?


Personally I the only time I would put one on is if it were a silencer mount for a rifle that wouldnt be shot suppressed all of the time while also being shot without ear protection which would be prohibitive to having a brake in its place.

 

[Mr. F]

It ill be shot at night so having a effective flash hider is a plus for me.

Weight is not a consideration since the thing is a pig already.

Lenght either cuz i can get away with a 20" gun for my purpose but im going all the way to 16. 5 anyway so...lengh i dont care (as long as its not a 12" hider he)

Tuning fork sound its fine

Price, as long as it stays under 150 for a high effective FH im cool.

 

[308pirate]

Idk, weight, length, the lack of annoying tuning fork ringing, keeping 70 bucks in your pocket. What possible advantage is there to having a flash suppressor if there isnt anyone shooting back at you that you need to hide from?




Just for my own curiosities, what does the flash suppressor do for you?


Personally I the only time I would put one on is if it were a silencer mount for a rifle that wouldnt be shot suppressed all of the time while also being shot without ear protection which would be prohibitive to having a brake in its place.

Well, you were wrong about what bolt flutes do (or rather don't do) as Chad Dixon already schooled you. Now the OP schooled you on why he wants a fucking flash suppressor.

"Tuning fork ringing"? LOL Are you for real?

 

[Brownie38]

Thunderbeast flash hider. Add the can later.

^^^^^^this^^^^^^^

 

[Sendit6.5]

While I don't understand the reasoning behind wanting a hider, I'd recommend a TBAC hider (as someone else posted earlier) so you can mount a TBAC suppressor to it later. They make my favorite cans and I prefer using their brakes/hiders for mounting them. If you are considering a different brand of suppressor down the road, buy one of their brakes. Kill 2 birds with one stone. Otherwise, IMO, a hider, is a hider is a hider so I'd go cheap - like a birdcage.

Well, you were wrong about what bolt flutes do (or rather don't do) as Chad Dixon already schooled you. Now the OP schooled you on why he wants a fucking flash suppressor.

"Tuning fork ringing"? LOL Are you for real?

Dang, that's a little harsh. I've been wondering about the purpose of a flash hider myself. I think your definition of "schooled" is little different than mine. I don't think the OP's comment about shooting at night OR Chad's reply in the other thread in any way constitute a "schooling." I guess there's more going on behind the scenes, that I'm not privy to; but just seemed overly and unnecessarily harsh comment.




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[spife7980]

I guess there's more going on behind the scenes, that I'm not privy to; but just seemed overly and unnecessarily harsh comment.

No, there isn't. At least not that I've been made aware of. I guess he's just naturally a jerk.

 

[Rockfish Dave]

I do quite a bit of "night hunting" and have used smith industries vortex flash hider. It works well with no ping and is around $60 bucks. I also use the Rugged R3 but it is more of a suppressor mount for me.

If at some point you are going to run a suppressor get a matched mount. otherwise the smith industries is what I would use.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Well, you were wrong about what bolt flutes do (or rather don't do) as Chad Dixon already schooled you. Now the OP schooled you on why he wants a fucking flash suppressor.

"Tuning fork ringing"? LOL Are you for real?

I agree with him and yes most of the prong style flash hiders ring when shot.

The only time I’d run a FH would be a can mount if I don’t want a brake on the rifle or if the rifle is already threaded and I don’t want a brake. Otherwise it’s unecessary and really doesn’t do anything. The main reason I’d rather have a plain muzzle over a FH would be for ease of cleaning alone, no pulling a FH to clean the crown. To each their own.

As far as which “flash hider” to get, I’d recommend the TBAC ultra series, but I’d use the muzzle brake to mount it...

 

[308pirate]

I agree with him

The bottom line here is that nobody should be questioning why the OP wants a flash suppressor. He's asking for which one to get, not whether he should.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

The bottom line here is that nobody should be questioning why the OP wants a flash suppressor. He's asking for which one to get, not whether he should.

What’s wrong offering a suggestion for an alternative solution and pointing out why that alternative may be a better option?

It’s his rifle and I don’t think there’s a single person that will lose sleep over his choice if he just wants one, but there’s nothing wrong with suggesting alternative which may be better.

 

[308pirate]

What’s wrong offering a suggestion for an alternative solution and pointing out why that alternative may be a better option?

It’s his rifle and I don’t think there’s a single person that will lose sleep over his choice if he just wants one, but there’s nothing wrong with suggesting alternative which may be better.

As well intentioned as that may be, it starts from the premise that the person asking the question doesn't know any better. As it turned out the OP intends to shoot in darkness, making any mention of muzzle brakes the wrong one.