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Create a channel Learn moreJust following up. Where did you land on your 5x5 exercise?I'd be intersted in seeing the realistic repeatability of the semi auto AR in 5 separate 5 shot groups.
What load and gun specs, and what's your min and max groups.
Trying to figger out what's realistic for my gun:
1:8 WOA bbl
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Just following up. Where did you land on your 5x5 exercise?
Ended up working a double and some extra yesterday so after getting home at 0300 I decided I would take a vacation day today...
At the range approx 0930, beautiful sunny day, dry, 0 Okta, breezy.
Rifle is an LMT CQB. Its pre shoot configuration....
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Barrel is standard CQB chrome lined 1/7. Optic is an ACOG TA-33. Looking at the pic Im thinking I need other than the standard ACOG mount, seems kind of high. Trigger is the LMT two stage that was originally in my MWS.
After shooting I moved the light to the right side rail and the stubby grip went further forward. Im trying to move on to shooting this style rifle with the support hand up toward the end of the rail. Barrel has about 3,000 rounds, desire is to one day have the extension put on a better quality barrel.
As set up for shooting the 5x5....
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Ammo spec....
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Targets 1-2.
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Made a windage adjustment right after these two groups.
Targets 3 and 4...
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Target 5
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Paster is one inch for reference.
Targets 3 and 5 would be my ideal if I could do it consistently. I wouldnt ask anymore than that from what I consider a "defensive" rifle.
The ACOG center dot pretty much covered the entire black silhouette at 100 yards but holding center of paper worked well enough.
Recently was issued a work carbine with a Aimpoint PRO. Really felt the difference between the two different types of scope today. The 3X mag of the ACOG is great but the tiny low setting red dot on the Aimpoint is pretty sweet too.
Id call this a mid range "defensive" rifle set up as opposed to the RDS close quarter set up. I need to try the ACOG on some close drill stuff and see how quick the horseshoe and green center dot draw my eye. Planning on taking mid range carbine at Sig Sauer next year and my LMT will likely be the rifle I use.
The old trusty BHW 22" 8 twist.What barrel are you running @TonyTheTiger?
That middle group would've been epic...
That middle group was would've been epic...
Then I guess you can do your own mental adjustment.You can’t really decide to randomly throw out rounds from your group in this game...
Every 6th round it’s a 2 MOA gun. You’re only fooling you.Then I guess you can do your own mental adjustment.
The fact remains, 22 out of 25 grouped together, 3 are far enough away from the main body of the group to be obvious. Call it what you want.
I showed all 25 rounds. No one is getting fooled. If a composite were made of all the 5x5's in this thread, most wouldn't look too different from this one. That is the reason I did it this way.Every 6th round it’s a 2 MOA gun. You’re only fooling you.
I showed all 25 rounds. No one is getting fooled. If a composite were made of all the 5x5's in this thread, most wouldn't look too different from this one. That is the reason I did it this way.
This was a random load for another rifle I had on hand, and these were rounds 26-50 down this barrel. No one knows what this rifle can do yet.
I thought this was supposed to be a fun thread, so why don't you take a break from being a cocksucker for a while?
Go back and read the original post I made and tell me what claim I made. I said 22 out 25 rounds went into a hair over 1.5moa. The target shows exactly that. I made zero fucking claim to it being any kind of "MOA gun". Who would brag about a 1.5 moa gun anyway?Wow. Sensitive much? Or you could just include all the rounds in your math and I wouldn’t have said anything.
Didn’t pick the best day for this, but, I shoot when I have the time irregardless of the weather. Wife “let” me use her 20” RRA as I don’t have a small frame AR set up for precision.
Weather was 46 degrees, BP of 29.66, and wind 5 to 7 o’clock at 22 gusts to 34 mph.
We typically run Black Hills 77 OTM’s for distance, but for 100 I just grabbed a couple of boxes of FGMM 77’s. It will typically run 0.75 MOA give or take with that ammo, and I may shoot this again using the Black Hills offering.
I was getting a fair amount of wind buffeting me as it was quite strong, but, it is what it is.
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What grip is that? Has a thumb shelf or just an odd angle?