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I have a few spots above the house and some just outside of Elma to really stretch things out.
I have a few spots above the house and some just outside of Elma to really stretch things out.
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We are here, Phone rings off the hook most days. If we are on the other 2 lines we wont answer. You can always shoot me a PM, email or whatever and we will get back. Some days our call back list gets 2-3 days long!
We are here, Phone rings off the hook most days. If we are on the other 2 lines we wont answer. You can always shoot me a PM, email or whatever and we will get back. Some days our call back list gets 2-3 days long!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oltmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Tribe. I'll save them as an option. Those are spendy, but still less than the Ivey 150moa rings. Right now it looks like the 40moa barrett exrings are the cheapest way to go, at $230. Yikes.
I'm using a SS 16x on the BMG right now. 68moa up and 50 down. I'm thinking of upgrading to the Sightron fixed power, just not sure on 16x or 20x. It just depends on how my current 16x does this summer. </div></div>
I have the IVEY rings and my review of them is that they are ok. When you start getting into the steep angles the actual moa angle vs what the scope rings say are way off. I had to make a conversion table to know what I really had.
Let me know of a date for the ELR shoot and hopefully I can tag along for a day.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oltmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Tribe. I'll save them as an option. Those are spendy, but still less than the Ivey 150moa rings. Right now it looks like the 40moa barrett exrings are the cheapest way to go, at $230. Yikes.
I'm using a SS 16x on the BMG right now. 68moa up and 50 down. I'm thinking of upgrading to the Sightron fixed power, just not sure on 16x or 20x. It just depends on how my current 16x does this summer. </div></div>
I have the IVEY rings and my review of them is that they are ok. When you start getting into the steep angles the actual moa angle vs what the scope rings say are way off. I had to make a conversion table to know what I really had.
Let me know of a date for the ELR shoot and hopefully I can tag along for a day.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dylanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I have the IVEY rings and my review of them is that they are ok. When you start getting into the steep angles the actual moa angle vs what the scope rings say are way off. I had to make a conversion table to know what I really had.
Let me know of a date for the ELR shoot and hopefully I can tag along for a day. </div></div>
Very cool, thanks for the info. Do you get more or less actual angle from the rings than they say? Are they on a canted base? Do you use them to adjust for different zeros, or actually to dial in elevation for shots?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dylanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I have the IVEY rings and my review of them is that they are ok. When you start getting into the steep angles the actual moa angle vs what the scope rings say are way off. I had to make a conversion table to know what I really had.
Let me know of a date for the ELR shoot and hopefully I can tag along for a day. </div></div>
Very cool, thanks for the info. Do you get more or less actual angle from the rings than they say? Are they on a canted base? Do you use them to adjust for different zeros, or actually to dial in elevation for shots?
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You actually get more angle, if I remember it is somewhere between 160-170moa. I origionally had them on a flat base .50bmg rifle of mine with a nightforce 12-42 on it. Now since I got rid of the .50 I have it on my .338 snipetac. But I plan on getting a different scope for that rifle and taking off the scope rings. They are very high off the rifle and I need to have a massive cheek spacer to make it work.
Basically for use I would zero the base and zero the scope for 200 yards. Then, say if i was shooting out a ways and I needed 56.25moa, I would want to set the rings for 56 so I would calculate what I actually had to set the base for and set it to that. And I would dial the .25 moa on the scope. Then after the first shot if I was off I would dial the scope to get it the rest of the way.
You actually get more angle, if I remember it is somewhere between 160-170moa. I origionally had them on a flat base .50bmg rifle of mine with a nightforce 12-42 on it. Now since I got rid of the .50 I have it on my .338 snipetac. But I plan on getting a different scope for that rifle and taking off the scope rings. They are very high off the rifle and I need to have a massive cheek spacer to make it work.
Basically for use I would zero the base and zero the scope for 200 yards. Then, say if i was shooting out a ways and I needed 56.25moa, I would want to set the rings for 56 so I would calculate what I actually had to set the base for and set it to that. And I would dial the .25 moa on the scope. Then after the first shot if I was off I would dial the scope to get it the rest of the way.
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<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">For the folks headed to Kettle Falls for the shoot(or to Eastern WA for that matter), just a heads up. There seems to be a pretty good tick crop this year. Ah, but they don't eat much.
Give em hell ! </span>
<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">For the folks headed to Kettle Falls for the shoot(or to Eastern WA for that matter), just a heads up. There seems to be a pretty good tick crop this year. Ah, but they don't eat much.
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I have an extra leather cheek piece riser made for a Manners T4 stock. It is sort of a burgundy/reddish brown color with a cut out for the left side flush cup. I'll PIF it to one of the shooters in this bunch as I'll be the FNG for a while. Just moving to Puget sound area. If anyone wants it, send me an email and I'll get it out to you. If you wait until next week, the movers will be here and it will be a while before it gets out.
The piece wraps around the top of the butt stock, lacing up on the bottom of the stock like a shoelace.
I thought I would like it, but I actually shoot much better without it. I guess it is a little too high for what I thought I needed. It should raise your face up about a three eighths to five eighths of an inch...or something like that.
I have an extra leather cheek piece riser made for a Manners T4 stock. It is sort of a burgundy/reddish brown color with a cut out for the left side flush cup. I'll PIF it to one of the shooters in this bunch as I'll be the FNG for a while. Just moving to Puget sound area. If anyone wants it, send me an email and I'll get it out to you. If you wait until next week, the movers will be here and it will be a while before it gets out.
The piece wraps around the top of the butt stock, lacing up on the bottom of the stock like a shoelace.
I thought I would like it, but I actually shoot much better without it. I guess it is a little too high for what I thought I needed. It should raise your face up about a three eighths to five eighths of an inch...or something like that.
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I don't think it will work with that stock. The Manners stock is solid, and it fits completely differently.
If you need to have a riser for this stock, it will be easy to do. If you get a piece of old sleeping mat (that foam that is about a quarter of an inch thick) and use Barge cement, or a similar type of contact cement, and laminate the pieces together until you get about the correct height, it will fit. Then, just glue a piece of leather over the top piece of foam, and glue (or tape) the foam onto the current cheekpiece.
You could even cut or file the foam with a wood rasp so it is thick on top, and thin on the side so that it doesn't push your face to the left and away from proper alignment with the scope.
Neat rifle though. The rings on it look really tall, and could be the reason it is hard to align your eyes with the scope. I had to swap out some of my rings on various rifle builds in order to get to the right height scope without having a bunch of extra rings left over.
Extra parts are dangerous for me. I start thinking how those parts could easily become another rifle if only I got..... Well, most of the people here have had those thoughts. Anyhow, that is why I try to get rid of extra parts as quickly as possible, otherwise, I might start thinking about how I could build another rifle around them.
I don't think it will work with that stock. The Manners stock is solid, and it fits completely differently.
If you need to have a riser for this stock, it will be easy to do. If you get a piece of old sleeping mat (that foam that is about a quarter of an inch thick) and use Barge cement, or a similar type of contact cement, and laminate the pieces together until you get about the correct height, it will fit. Then, just glue a piece of leather over the top piece of foam, and glue (or tape) the foam onto the current cheekpiece.
You could even cut or file the foam with a wood rasp so it is thick on top, and thin on the side so that it doesn't push your face to the left and away from proper alignment with the scope.
Neat rifle though. The rings on it look really tall, and could be the reason it is hard to align your eyes with the scope. I had to swap out some of my rings on various rifle builds in order to get to the right height scope without having a bunch of extra rings left over.
Extra parts are dangerous for me. I start thinking how those parts could easily become another rifle if only I got..... Well, most of the people here have had those thoughts. Anyhow, that is why I try to get rid of extra parts as quickly as possible, otherwise, I might start thinking about how I could build another rifle around them.
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After looking over the calender. How about the weekend of 6/25-26 for an ELR shoot. I can do another one later if people want, but the later it gets the hotter, more mirage, more fire danger, etc.
Those in favor, say Eye.
After looking over the calender. How about the weekend of 6/25-26 for an ELR shoot. I can do another one later if people want, but the later it gets the hotter, more mirage, more fire danger, etc.
Those in favor, say Eye.
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I will be gone that weekend for another shoot I am doing (300-2700 yards). I would be up for one in the August-september, time frame.
I will be gone that weekend for another shoot I am doing (300-2700 yards). I would be up for one in the August-september, time frame.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think it will work with that stock. The Manners stock is solid, and it fits completely differently.
If you need to have a riser for this stock, it will be easy to do. If you get a piece of old sleeping mat (that foam that is about a quarter of an inch thick) and use Barge cement, or a similar type of contact cement, and laminate the pieces together until you get about the correct height, it will fit. Then, just glue a piece of leather over the top piece of foam, and glue (or tape) the foam onto the current cheekpiece.
You could even cut or file the foam with a wood rasp so it is thick on top, and thin on the side so that it doesn't push your face to the left and away from proper alignment with the scope.
Neat rifle though. The rings on it look really tall, and could be the reason it is hard to align your eyes with the scope. I had to swap out some of my rings on various rifle builds in order to get to the right height scope without having a bunch of extra rings left over.
Extra parts are dangerous for me. I start thinking how those parts could easily become another rifle if only I got..... Well, most of the people here have had those thoughts. Anyhow, that is why I try to get rid of extra parts as quickly as possible, otherwise, I might start thinking about how I could build another rifle around them. </div></div>
The rings on this ones are the IVEY adjustable ones that give 150 moa out of it. That is why they are so high.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think it will work with that stock. The Manners stock is solid, and it fits completely differently.
If you need to have a riser for this stock, it will be easy to do. If you get a piece of old sleeping mat (that foam that is about a quarter of an inch thick) and use Barge cement, or a similar type of contact cement, and laminate the pieces together until you get about the correct height, it will fit. Then, just glue a piece of leather over the top piece of foam, and glue (or tape) the foam onto the current cheekpiece.
You could even cut or file the foam with a wood rasp so it is thick on top, and thin on the side so that it doesn't push your face to the left and away from proper alignment with the scope.
Neat rifle though. The rings on it look really tall, and could be the reason it is hard to align your eyes with the scope. I had to swap out some of my rings on various rifle builds in order to get to the right height scope without having a bunch of extra rings left over.
Extra parts are dangerous for me. I start thinking how those parts could easily become another rifle if only I got..... Well, most of the people here have had those thoughts. Anyhow, that is why I try to get rid of extra parts as quickly as possible, otherwise, I might start thinking about how I could build another rifle around them. </div></div>
The rings on this ones are the IVEY adjustable ones that give 150 moa out of it. That is why they are so high.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dylanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will be gone that weekend for another shoot I am doing (300-2700 yards). I would be up for one in the August-september, time frame. </div></div>
Yeah. Where's this shoot?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dylanss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will be gone that weekend for another shoot I am doing (300-2700 yards). I would be up for one in the August-september, time frame. </div></div>
Yeah. Where's this shoot?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After looking over the calender. How about the weekend of 6/25-26 for an ELR shoot. I can do another one later if people want, but the later it gets the hotter, more mirage, more fire danger, etc.
Those in favor, say Eye.</div></div>
Aye!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After looking over the calender. How about the weekend of 6/25-26 for an ELR shoot. I can do another one later if people want, but the later it gets the hotter, more mirage, more fire danger, etc.
Those in favor, say Eye.</div></div>
Aye!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mkollman74</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SSSamurai-
Good to hear. I am just ordering the SRS for my McMillan and Atlas. I was just in Monroe for business today - wet....</div></div>
i happen to have an extra front picatinny rail if you need one, mine is the one with the flush cup mount though. </div></div>
Will it work for the 3" McMillan hole spacing? How much are you needing for it?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mkollman74</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SSSamurai-
Good to hear. I am just ordering the SRS for my McMillan and Atlas. I was just in Monroe for business today - wet....</div></div>
i happen to have an extra front picatinny rail if you need one, mine is the one with the flush cup mount though. </div></div>
Will it work for the 3" McMillan hole spacing? How much are you needing for it?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We are here, Phone rings off the hook most days. If we are on the other 2 lines we wont answer. You can always shoot me a PM, email or whatever and we will get back. Some days our call back list gets 2-3 days long!
</div></div>
Hey Glen -
Thanks for the response. Al did call me back, unfortunately, I couldn't answer when he called. He said you were working with your new CNC machine. Just a quick question or two RE: the SRS - Would I need to do anything other than take my current sling studs out and screw it on? Do the screws come with? Do you have units ready to ship? Unfortunately, I am on a bit of a tight timeframe for this piece.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We are here, Phone rings off the hook most days. If we are on the other 2 lines we wont answer. You can always shoot me a PM, email or whatever and we will get back. Some days our call back list gets 2-3 days long!
</div></div>
Hey Glen -
Thanks for the response. Al did call me back, unfortunately, I couldn't answer when he called. He said you were working with your new CNC machine. Just a quick question or two RE: the SRS - Would I need to do anything other than take my current sling studs out and screw it on? Do the screws come with? Do you have units ready to ship? Unfortunately, I am on a bit of a tight timeframe for this piece.
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Thanks to everyone for showing up for the 2011 Camp Patriot Steel Challenge.
Here is a link to a pile of pictures I took yesterday: http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/RedTacGear/
I tried to get photo's of everyone, but honestly I know I missed some.......sorry.
Below is the before match group photo:
Below is your individual Match winner:
Congrats to Tribe-Chad.
Team Winners were: R-Bros. pictured below:
Awesome shooting guys.
If someone wants me to email photo's to them personally:
Send me an Email(in my profile) with image # needed and I'll get them to ya.
Thanks guys,
Stu
Thanks to everyone for showing up for the 2011 Camp Patriot Steel Challenge.
Here is a link to a pile of pictures I took yesterday: http://s1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/RedTacGear/
I tried to get photo's of everyone, but honestly I know I missed some.......sorry.
Below is the before match group photo:
Below is your individual Match winner:
Congrats to Tribe-Chad.
Team Winners were: R-Bros. pictured below:
Awesome shooting guys.
If someone wants me to email photo's to them personally:
Send me an Email(in my profile) with image # needed and I'll get them to ya.
Thanks guys,
Stu
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Way to go Tribe! Looks like you've got that .300 Win Mag dialed in! Good shooting!
Way to go Tribe! Looks like you've got that .300 Win Mag dialed in! Good shooting!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedMan*</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Team Winners were: R-Bros. pictured below:
Awesome shooting guys.</div></div>
No surprise there.
1911fan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedMan*</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Team Winners were: R-Bros. pictured below:
Awesome shooting guys.</div></div>
No surprise there.
1911fan
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Way to go Tribe! I'm thinking you aren't going to rework that 210 VLD load now huh?
Way to go Tribe! I'm thinking you aren't going to rework that 210 VLD load now huh?
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Nice Pictures Redman, and Good shooting Tribe and R-Bros.!</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Nice Pictures Redman, and Good shooting Tribe and R-Bros.!</span>
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Good shooting by a lot of competitors, Carl and the Kettle falls mafia put on a good comp. How bout that Rapid Bolt Lane ... good stuff
If anyone finds a Garmin Rhino let me know, I was RSO at Lane #3 and when unpackin my kit today noticed it didn't make it home with me.
Thanks
Good shooting by a lot of competitors, Carl and the Kettle falls mafia put on a good comp. How bout that Rapid Bolt Lane ... good stuff
If anyone finds a Garmin Rhino let me know, I was RSO at Lane #3 and when unpackin my kit today noticed it didn't make it home with me.
Thanks
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Many thanks to Carl Taylor and all those involved in putting together this years Steel Challenge. Congratulations to Chad for being the individual winner and Jesse and Travis for their team win. I had a great time, even though I missed way more than I hit. It was a pleasure to see so many familiar faces and it was great to meet so many new ones. Stu, you got some great picture of everyone. The match is for a great cause, if any of you have a moment please check out Camp Patriot.
Marty
Many thanks to Carl Taylor and all those involved in putting together this years Steel Challenge. Congratulations to Chad for being the individual winner and Jesse and Travis for their team win. I had a great time, even though I missed way more than I hit. It was a pleasure to see so many familiar faces and it was great to meet so many new ones. Stu, you got some great picture of everyone. The match is for a great cause, if any of you have a moment please check out Camp Patriot.
Marty
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Sounds like folks had a good time at Kettle Falls. I'm gonna need to quit talkin' about doin' one of these and just do one. You guys wouldn't mind a new guy bringing up the rear would you?
Sounds like folks had a good time at Kettle Falls. I'm gonna need to quit talkin' about doin' one of these and just do one. You guys wouldn't mind a new guy bringing up the rear would you?
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Great match and a good day for shooting. Thanks again to Carl and all the volunteers that made it possible.
It was nice to meet new people. Thanks to MTETM and farmchick for the lift up and down from the shoot, hope your drive home is going well.
Good shooting Tribe!
Great match and a good day for shooting. Thanks again to Carl and all the volunteers that made it possible.
It was nice to meet new people. Thanks to MTETM and farmchick for the lift up and down from the shoot, hope your drive home is going well.
Good shooting Tribe!
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Chad,
I couldn't imagine a guy that deserved the victory anymore than you. You have been working hard and building your skills and obviously it is paying off for you. If you weren't such a humble guy it might have been a very long ride home for the rest of us that you thoroughly spanked. Congrats brother I look forward to many more fun road trips!!
Chad,
I couldn't imagine a guy that deserved the victory anymore than you. You have been working hard and building your skills and obviously it is paying off for you. If you weren't such a humble guy it might have been a very long ride home for the rest of us that you thoroughly spanked. Congrats brother I look forward to many more fun road trips!!
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Was the wind kicking during the match? We've had a couple of really weird weather days here in Spokane.
Was the wind kicking during the match? We've had a couple of really weird weather days here in Spokane.
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WOW! What a blast! Thanks guys... still pretty frickin' amped... been on cloud-9... TSI will tell ya'... I couldn't get the stupid grin off of my face ALL night!
Win, lose or draw, I look forward to this match ALL year long, since the first time Stu invited me out a couple of years ago (thanks again & again Stu!). It's one of the most beautiful settings in Washington, and the COF is just flat out FUN.
Carl and "The Kettle Falls Mafia" are <span style="text-decoration: underline">Grade A</span> ALL the way... To me, it really is, just a PRIVILEGE to be able to join in this event, and to even hold an association with such a fantastic group of folks.
Scott... thanks for putting together the road trip... really made the whole weekend an experience that won't be forgotten........... (unfortunately that goes for Danny's part too....
)
Also.... a shout out to "Team Blind Squirrel's" better half... Tyler... if by some odd chance you are reading this.... you da' man - your wind is money.... I got this
Finally, and most importantly.... if you haven't, please check out the link. http://www.camppatriot.org/ it's what this thing is all about.
One more time.... Thanks Carl.... Truly appreciated.
Chad
WOW! What a blast! Thanks guys... still pretty frickin' amped... been on cloud-9... TSI will tell ya'... I couldn't get the stupid grin off of my face ALL night!
Win, lose or draw, I look forward to this match ALL year long, since the first time Stu invited me out a couple of years ago (thanks again & again Stu!). It's one of the most beautiful settings in Washington, and the COF is just flat out FUN.
Carl and "The Kettle Falls Mafia" are <span style="text-decoration: underline">Grade A</span> ALL the way... To me, it really is, just a PRIVILEGE to be able to join in this event, and to even hold an association with such a fantastic group of folks.
Scott... thanks for putting together the road trip... really made the whole weekend an experience that won't be forgotten........... (unfortunately that goes for Danny's part too....
Also.... a shout out to "Team Blind Squirrel's" better half... Tyler... if by some odd chance you are reading this.... you da' man - your wind is money.... I got this
Finally, and most importantly.... if you haven't, please check out the link. http://www.camppatriot.org/ it's what this thing is all about.
One more time.... Thanks Carl.... Truly appreciated.
Chad
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How about a description of the COF this year, & conditions.. For those not able to make it this year. I wanted to go bad, but couldn't swing the coin when the time came.
How about a description of the COF this year, & conditions.. For those not able to make it this year. I wanted to go bad, but couldn't swing the coin when the time came.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No clue how it was scored. I shot 61 including 5 (all scored) for the rapid bolt and 2 for the kyl which all scored. Travis shot like 57 including 5 (all scored) on rapid bolt and he cleaned the kyl as well. Still haven't figured out how he ended up like 7th overall when he shot better than I did. Oh well, it was a fun shoot nonetheless and I am curious to see the final scoring tally.</div></div>
good thing the match called for 120rds huh? even us who were not in the top ten didn't even need close to that many. I don't know anyone who even shot 100rds including a few guys that were in the bottom places.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No clue how it was scored. I shot 61 including 5 (all scored) for the rapid bolt and 2 for the kyl which all scored. Travis shot like 57 including 5 (all scored) on rapid bolt and he cleaned the kyl as well. Still haven't figured out how he ended up like 7th overall when he shot better than I did. Oh well, it was a fun shoot nonetheless and I am curious to see the final scoring tally.</div></div>
good thing the match called for 120rds huh? even us who were not in the top ten didn't even need close to that many. I don't know anyone who even shot 100rds including a few guys that were in the bottom places.
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Results for the 2011 Steel Challenge will be posted later on tonight.
Thank you all for another great event.
Results for the 2011 Steel Challenge will be posted later on tonight.
Thank you all for another great event.
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Wow!
I didn't know this would of this much concern. The number of total rounds that could have been fired were 101.
At the last minute, I had to make a decision on a course of fire that would have taken another 15 roudns. The other 4 rounds allowcated for the match were in case someone lost rounds / had mis-fires etc. Hope that this helps out all that are concerned with the reasons behind the round count.
Results have been emailed to competitors. If you didn't get the results email your partner or myself.
I'm trying to get the forum to translate the spreadsheet correctly. Once I get that done I will post the results.
Wow!
At the last minute, I had to make a decision on a course of fire that would have taken another 15 roudns. The other 4 rounds allowcated for the match were in case someone lost rounds / had mis-fires etc. Hope that this helps out all that are concerned with the reasons behind the round count.
Results have been emailed to competitors. If you didn't get the results email your partner or myself.
I'm trying to get the forum to translate the spreadsheet correctly. Once I get that done I will post the results.
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Competitor Score Place
Chad McKnight 43.75 1
Jesse Redell 42.5 2
Luck Rinebold 41.75 3
Nathan Dagley 40.75 4
Lance Stonge 40.5 5
Al Seaman 40 6
Travis Redell 39.75 7
Glen Demory 39.25 8
Toby Hauck 38.75 9
Charles Lane 38 10
Scott Rinebold 37.75 11
Tyler Hanan 37.25 12
Ron Sinnema 34.25 13
David Verley 33.5 14
Steve Ziegler 33 15
Bill Bland 32.75 16
Butch Hurless 32.75 17
Glenn Seekins 32.25 18
Eric Miller 32 19
Josh Pennell 31.5 20
David Smith 31.25 21
Scott Stuurman 31.25 22
Cody Howell 30.5 23
Travis Schaad 30.5 24
Ray Losli 30 25
lucas Beitner 30 26
Rory Russell 29.75 27
Dan Ecker 29.5 28
Kevin Oltmann 29.25 29
Peter Bezwerchys 29 30
Iain Harrison 28.75 31
Jared Rodgers 28 32
John Germick 27.25 33
Shilo Matoon 27 34
Jim Findlay 26.75 35
Jake Carroll 24.75 36
Troy Bassett 24.25 37
Ralph Graffunder 23.5 38
Chris Reid 23.25 39
Jeff Leyes 23 40
Jorge Carbro 23 40
Alex Paul 21.75 41
Carl Nelson 21.25 41
Stephen Downs 20 42
Shawn Vitt 19.75 43
Anne Miller 19.5 44
Garrett Ewell 19.5 45
John McAfee 19.5 45
Doug C 19 46
Nicole Downs 18.75 47
Steve Shaffer 18.25 48
Shayla Shearer 18 49
Tad Butcher 17.5 50
Sandy Russell 15.75 51
Martin Harris 15.25 52
Tim Nizich 14.75 53
Carl Zmuda 13.75 54
Chris Marti 13.25 55
Shaun Gridley 13 56
Daniel Leyes 13 56
Teams
Name TM # 1 TM Scr 62.25
Charles Lane 1 Score 38
Troy Bassett 2 Score 24.25
Name TM # 2 TM Scr 51.5
Eric Miller 1 Score 32
Anne Miller 2 Score 19.5
Name TM # 3 TM Scr 82.25
Jesse Redell 1 Score 42.5
Travis Redell 2 Score 39.75
Name TM # 4 TM Scr 44.75
Jim Findlay 1 Score 26.75
Shayla Shearer 2 Score 18
Name TM # 5 TM Scr 38.75
Stephen Downs 1 Score 20
Nicole Downs 2 Score 18.75
Name TM # 6 TM Scr 72.25
Glen Demory 1 Score 39.25
Steve Ziegler 2 Score 33
Name TM # 7 TM Scr 38.5
Doug C 1 Score 19
Garrett Ewell 2 Score 19.5
Name TM # 8 TM Scr 63.75
Ron Sinnema 1 Score 34.25
Dan Ecker 2 Score 29.5
Name TM # 9 TM Scr 81
Chad McKnight 1 Score 43.75
Tyler Hanan 2 Score 37.25
Name TM # 10 TM Scr 54
Carl Nelson 1 Score 21.25
Bill Bland 2 Score 32.75
Name TM # 12 TM Scr 60.5
Cody Howell 1 Score 30.5
Ray Losli 2 Score 30
Name TM # 13 TM Scr 64.75
David Smith 1 Score 31.25
David Verley 2 Score 33.5
Name TM # 14 TM Scr 79.5
Scott Rinebold 1 Score 37.75
Luck Rinebold 2 Score 41.75
Name TM # 15 TM Scr 34.75
John McAfee 1 Score 19.5
Martin Harris 2 Score 15.25
Name TM # 16 TM Scr 48.75
Shawn Vitt 1 Score 19.75
Peter Bezwerchys 2 Score 29
Name TM # 17 TM Scr 60
John Germick 1 Score 27.25
Butch Hurless 2 Score 32.75
Name TM # 18 TM Scr 79.5
Toby Hauck 1 Score 38.75
Nathan Dagley 2 Score 40.75
Name TM # 19 TM Scr 61.25
Scott Stuurman 1 Score 31.25
lucas Beitner 2 Score 30
Name TM # 20 TM Scr 54
Ralph Graffunder 1 Score 23.5
Travis Schaad 2 Score 30.5
Name TM # 21 TM Scr 60.75
Kevin Oltmann 1 Score 29.25
Josh Pennell 2 Score 31.5
Name TM # 22 TM Scr 36.5
Chris Reid 1 Score 23.25
Chris Marti 2 Score 13.25
Name TM # 23 TM Scr 26.75
Shaun Gridley 1 Score 13
Carl Zmuda 2 Score 13.75
Name TM # 24 TM Scr 36
Daniel Leyes 1 Score 13
Jeff Leyes 2 Score 23
Name TM # 25 TM Scr 69.75
Al Seaman 1 Score 40
Rory Russell 2 Score 29.75
Name TM # 26 TM Scr 72.75
Glenn Seekins 1 Score 32.25
Lance Stonge 2 Score 40.5
Name TM # 27 TM Scr 45.5
Jared Rodgers 1 Score 28
Tad Butcher 2 Score 17.5
Name TM # 28 TM Scr 50.5
Alex Paul 1 Score 21.75
Iain Harrison 2 Score 28.75
Name TM # 29 TM Scr 33
Tim Nizich 1 Score 14.75
Steve Shaffer 2 Score 18.25
Name TM # 30 TM Scr 47.75
Jorge Carbro 1 Score 23
Jake Carroll 2 Score 24.75
Name TM # 31 TM Scr 42.75
Sandy Russell 1 Score 15.75
Shilo Matoon 2 Score 27
Place Team Number Score
1 Three TM Scr 82.25
2 Nine TM Scr 81
3 Fourteen TM Scr 79.5
4 Eightteen TM Scr 79.5
5 Twentysix TM Scr 72.75
6 Six TM Scr 72.25
7 Twentyfive TM Scr 69.75
8 Thirteen TM Scr 64.75
9 Eight TM Scr 63.75
10 One TM Scr 62.25
11 Nineteen TM Scr 61.25
12 Twentyone TM Scr 60.75
13 Twelve TM Scr 60.5
14 Seventn TM Scr 60
15 Ten TM Scr 54
16 Twenty TM Scr 54
17 Two TM Scr 51.5
18 Twentyeight TM Scr 50.5
19 Sixteen TM Scr 48.75
20 Thirty TM Scr 47.75
21 Twentyseven TM Scr 45.5
22 Four TM Scr 44.75
23 Thirtyone TM Scr 42.75
24 Five TM Scr 38.75
25 Seven TM Scr 38.5
26 Twentytwo TM Scr 36.5
27 Twentyfr TM Scr 36
28 Fifteen TM Scr 34.75
29 Twentynine TM Scr 33
30 Twentythree TM Scr 26.75
31 Eleven TM Scr 0
32 Thritytwo TM Scr 0
Competitor Score Place
Chad McKnight 43.75 1
Jesse Redell 42.5 2
Luck Rinebold 41.75 3
Nathan Dagley 40.75 4
Lance Stonge 40.5 5
Al Seaman 40 6
Travis Redell 39.75 7
Glen Demory 39.25 8
Toby Hauck 38.75 9
Charles Lane 38 10
Scott Rinebold 37.75 11
Tyler Hanan 37.25 12
Ron Sinnema 34.25 13
David Verley 33.5 14
Steve Ziegler 33 15
Bill Bland 32.75 16
Butch Hurless 32.75 17
Glenn Seekins 32.25 18
Eric Miller 32 19
Josh Pennell 31.5 20
David Smith 31.25 21
Scott Stuurman 31.25 22
Cody Howell 30.5 23
Travis Schaad 30.5 24
Ray Losli 30 25
lucas Beitner 30 26
Rory Russell 29.75 27
Dan Ecker 29.5 28
Kevin Oltmann 29.25 29
Peter Bezwerchys 29 30
Iain Harrison 28.75 31
Jared Rodgers 28 32
John Germick 27.25 33
Shilo Matoon 27 34
Jim Findlay 26.75 35
Jake Carroll 24.75 36
Troy Bassett 24.25 37
Ralph Graffunder 23.5 38
Chris Reid 23.25 39
Jeff Leyes 23 40
Jorge Carbro 23 40
Alex Paul 21.75 41
Carl Nelson 21.25 41
Stephen Downs 20 42
Shawn Vitt 19.75 43
Anne Miller 19.5 44
Garrett Ewell 19.5 45
John McAfee 19.5 45
Doug C 19 46
Nicole Downs 18.75 47
Steve Shaffer 18.25 48
Shayla Shearer 18 49
Tad Butcher 17.5 50
Sandy Russell 15.75 51
Martin Harris 15.25 52
Tim Nizich 14.75 53
Carl Zmuda 13.75 54
Chris Marti 13.25 55
Shaun Gridley 13 56
Daniel Leyes 13 56
Teams
Name TM # 1 TM Scr 62.25
Charles Lane 1 Score 38
Troy Bassett 2 Score 24.25
Name TM # 2 TM Scr 51.5
Eric Miller 1 Score 32
Anne Miller 2 Score 19.5
Name TM # 3 TM Scr 82.25
Jesse Redell 1 Score 42.5
Travis Redell 2 Score 39.75
Name TM # 4 TM Scr 44.75
Jim Findlay 1 Score 26.75
Shayla Shearer 2 Score 18
Name TM # 5 TM Scr 38.75
Stephen Downs 1 Score 20
Nicole Downs 2 Score 18.75
Name TM # 6 TM Scr 72.25
Glen Demory 1 Score 39.25
Steve Ziegler 2 Score 33
Name TM # 7 TM Scr 38.5
Doug C 1 Score 19
Garrett Ewell 2 Score 19.5
Name TM # 8 TM Scr 63.75
Ron Sinnema 1 Score 34.25
Dan Ecker 2 Score 29.5
Name TM # 9 TM Scr 81
Chad McKnight 1 Score 43.75
Tyler Hanan 2 Score 37.25
Name TM # 10 TM Scr 54
Carl Nelson 1 Score 21.25
Bill Bland 2 Score 32.75
Name TM # 12 TM Scr 60.5
Cody Howell 1 Score 30.5
Ray Losli 2 Score 30
Name TM # 13 TM Scr 64.75
David Smith 1 Score 31.25
David Verley 2 Score 33.5
Name TM # 14 TM Scr 79.5
Scott Rinebold 1 Score 37.75
Luck Rinebold 2 Score 41.75
Name TM # 15 TM Scr 34.75
John McAfee 1 Score 19.5
Martin Harris 2 Score 15.25
Name TM # 16 TM Scr 48.75
Shawn Vitt 1 Score 19.75
Peter Bezwerchys 2 Score 29
Name TM # 17 TM Scr 60
John Germick 1 Score 27.25
Butch Hurless 2 Score 32.75
Name TM # 18 TM Scr 79.5
Toby Hauck 1 Score 38.75
Nathan Dagley 2 Score 40.75
Name TM # 19 TM Scr 61.25
Scott Stuurman 1 Score 31.25
lucas Beitner 2 Score 30
Name TM # 20 TM Scr 54
Ralph Graffunder 1 Score 23.5
Travis Schaad 2 Score 30.5
Name TM # 21 TM Scr 60.75
Kevin Oltmann 1 Score 29.25
Josh Pennell 2 Score 31.5
Name TM # 22 TM Scr 36.5
Chris Reid 1 Score 23.25
Chris Marti 2 Score 13.25
Name TM # 23 TM Scr 26.75
Shaun Gridley 1 Score 13
Carl Zmuda 2 Score 13.75
Name TM # 24 TM Scr 36
Daniel Leyes 1 Score 13
Jeff Leyes 2 Score 23
Name TM # 25 TM Scr 69.75
Al Seaman 1 Score 40
Rory Russell 2 Score 29.75
Name TM # 26 TM Scr 72.75
Glenn Seekins 1 Score 32.25
Lance Stonge 2 Score 40.5
Name TM # 27 TM Scr 45.5
Jared Rodgers 1 Score 28
Tad Butcher 2 Score 17.5
Name TM # 28 TM Scr 50.5
Alex Paul 1 Score 21.75
Iain Harrison 2 Score 28.75
Name TM # 29 TM Scr 33
Tim Nizich 1 Score 14.75
Steve Shaffer 2 Score 18.25
Name TM # 30 TM Scr 47.75
Jorge Carbro 1 Score 23
Jake Carroll 2 Score 24.75
Name TM # 31 TM Scr 42.75
Sandy Russell 1 Score 15.75
Shilo Matoon 2 Score 27
Place Team Number Score
1 Three TM Scr 82.25
2 Nine TM Scr 81
3 Fourteen TM Scr 79.5
4 Eightteen TM Scr 79.5
5 Twentysix TM Scr 72.75
6 Six TM Scr 72.25
7 Twentyfive TM Scr 69.75
8 Thirteen TM Scr 64.75
9 Eight TM Scr 63.75
10 One TM Scr 62.25
11 Nineteen TM Scr 61.25
12 Twentyone TM Scr 60.75
13 Twelve TM Scr 60.5
14 Seventn TM Scr 60
15 Ten TM Scr 54
16 Twenty TM Scr 54
17 Two TM Scr 51.5
18 Twentyeight TM Scr 50.5
19 Sixteen TM Scr 48.75
20 Thirty TM Scr 47.75
21 Twentyseven TM Scr 45.5
22 Four TM Scr 44.75
23 Thirtyone TM Scr 42.75
24 Five TM Scr 38.75
25 Seven TM Scr 38.5
26 Twentytwo TM Scr 36.5
27 Twentyfr TM Scr 36
28 Fifteen TM Scr 34.75
29 Twentynine TM Scr 33
30 Twentythree TM Scr 26.75
31 Eleven TM Scr 0
32 Thritytwo TM Scr 0
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kocoa88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow!
I didn't know this would of this much concern. The number of total rounds that could have been fired were 101.
At the last minute, I had to make a decision on a course of fire that would have taken another 15 roudns. The other 4 rounds allowcated for the match were in case someone lost rounds / had mis-fires etc. Hope that this helps out all that are concerned with the reasons behind the round count.
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carl i hope my comment was taken the wrong way, i wasn't bothered at all by it. I just kept thinking towards the end of the day that there was going to be some suprise stage that you weren't telling us about. You do have a tendency to keep details about the cof to yourself, which by the way i think is awesome!!! I love not really knowing what you are going to throw at us, it forces us as competitors to try and train for any and everything. You design a hell of a course and i will be damned if i ever miss one of your matches. Not only are they truly exciting and challenging, but they also are in support of a great cause.
thanks again for taking the time to set this thing up, and a special thanks to all the ro's that put up with are endless stupid questions.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kocoa88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow!
At the last minute, I had to make a decision on a course of fire that would have taken another 15 roudns. The other 4 rounds allowcated for the match were in case someone lost rounds / had mis-fires etc. Hope that this helps out all that are concerned with the reasons behind the round count.
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carl i hope my comment was taken the wrong way, i wasn't bothered at all by it. I just kept thinking towards the end of the day that there was going to be some suprise stage that you weren't telling us about. You do have a tendency to keep details about the cof to yourself, which by the way i think is awesome!!! I love not really knowing what you are going to throw at us, it forces us as competitors to try and train for any and everything. You design a hell of a course and i will be damned if i ever miss one of your matches. Not only are they truly exciting and challenging, but they also are in support of a great cause.
thanks again for taking the time to set this thing up, and a special thanks to all the ro's that put up with are endless stupid questions.
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While I'm not a Western Wa guy I had to step in for a moment and just express how much I enjoyed this match. I'm still fairly new to the long range game and this was an awesome learning/humbling experience. Came home with a short list of things to work on to improve before next year.
Carl and the KF Mafia were awesome. All the RO's were A+++. Everyone was super cool, super professional and laid back at the same time. I can't express how impressed I was with everyone involved in putting this on.
I heard rumors of some Premier failures and just want to say that mine treated me awesome again. Heard of some AI mag failures and again, mine didn't miss a beat. Just sounded like some freak gremlin issues came out for some folks.
I'm glad the rain didn't follow all us Portland folk and kept us dry. For those who didn't count, know, or care, there were about 6 teams from Portland and Tri County Gun Club up there.
And just to put a face to my name here is one of Stu's pics of myself and my partner. Team 30, I'm in the black shirt and jeans, name is Jake.
While I'm not a Western Wa guy I had to step in for a moment and just express how much I enjoyed this match. I'm still fairly new to the long range game and this was an awesome learning/humbling experience. Came home with a short list of things to work on to improve before next year.
Carl and the KF Mafia were awesome. All the RO's were A+++. Everyone was super cool, super professional and laid back at the same time. I can't express how impressed I was with everyone involved in putting this on.
I heard rumors of some Premier failures and just want to say that mine treated me awesome again. Heard of some AI mag failures and again, mine didn't miss a beat. Just sounded like some freak gremlin issues came out for some folks.
I'm glad the rain didn't follow all us Portland folk and kept us dry. For those who didn't count, know, or care, there were about 6 teams from Portland and Tri County Gun Club up there.
And just to put a face to my name here is one of Stu's pics of myself and my partner. Team 30, I'm in the black shirt and jeans, name is Jake.
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Welcome Jake! You don't have to be WW to hang out here... we seem to be outgrowing our moniker!
Welcome Jake! You don't have to be WW to hang out here... we seem to be outgrowing our moniker!
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<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> I'm not from Wetstern WA either, but I don't think you'll find a finer bunch of folks to shoot with period! </span> Course a few of us are smartasses, and I cant shoot, but all things in good time.
<span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"> I'm not from Wetstern WA either, but I don't think you'll find a finer bunch of folks to shoot with period! </span> Course a few of us are smartasses, and I cant shoot, but all things in good time.
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Thanks to all for such a great time on our one date a year without the kidlets. Big shouts to Carl, all the ROs and the rest of the crew. MTETM and I have made some incredible friends, even if at least one of you is off the Christmas card list for letting the other half fall in love with that danged AI AW. The gremlins and the infamous broken gen 1 Premier toggle are history..they're shipping the new version and Huge thanks to Tyler and Scott for saving us the day before the match. We expect to see all of you at Hotel Miller in the next year for antelope deer prairie dogs and the like. Coffee will be on and the range hot.
Thanks to all for such a great time on our one date a year without the kidlets. Big shouts to Carl, all the ROs and the rest of the crew. MTETM and I have made some incredible friends, even if at least one of you is off the Christmas card list for letting the other half fall in love with that danged AI AW. The gremlins and the infamous broken gen 1 Premier toggle are history..they're shipping the new version and Huge thanks to Tyler and Scott for saving us the day before the match. We expect to see all of you at Hotel Miller in the next year for antelope deer prairie dogs and the like. Coffee will be on and the range hot.
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Hotel Pie more like it, and it was a pleasure meeting all the fine folks from Jordan, MT.
Marty
Hotel Pie more like it, and it was a pleasure meeting all the fine folks from Jordan, MT.
Marty
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marty all i can say is you are beyond entertaining!!! you were the life of the party saturday as we were all drinking away our misses (except humble chad who just sat there smiling).
I honestly dont think there is a better match to attend, it may not have 40k in prizes but the shooters and match location are to die for. Can't wait for next years match, carl you never dissapoint.
marty all i can say is you are beyond entertaining!!! you were the life of the party saturday as we were all drinking away our misses (except humble chad who just sat there smiling).
I honestly dont think there is a better match to attend, it may not have 40k in prizes but the shooters and match location are to die for. Can't wait for next years match, carl you never dissapoint.
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I'd like to echo my thanks to Carl and rest as well. This was the first time I'd ever shot a match like this and wasn't sure what to expect. Definitely glad I went, shot some great stages and met some awesome people.
I'd like to echo my thanks to Carl and rest as well. This was the first time I'd ever shot a match like this and wasn't sure what to expect. Definitely glad I went, shot some great stages and met some awesome people.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tribe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude..... i really don't want this to get weird in any way... the first time I saw you and your brother shoot, as an RO at Kettle Falls two years ago, you two became the model for me, the FNG, as to how a team should shoot together... you could ask a bunch of the guys in this very thread... I refer to it all of the time.
I just showed up to shoot.
Thank you... congrats to you as well! </div></div>
Nothing weird Chad...don't worry about it. Congratulations...you shot well. We appreciate your comments as well regarding our team work. By the looks of the scoring layout, they had Jesse and I swapped....I was shooter 1 and he was shooter 2. Doesn't bother me to much. I was more impressed by how well our new cartridge design did than I was concerned with the scoring. Especially considering the new rifles were barely broken in before we went to the match. The most wind we held all day was 1moa...me happy with that! Its a fun and challenging match, and good to see everyone. Looking forward to next year already. I wish Carl would put on a couple matches a year up there.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tribe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude..... i really don't want this to get weird in any way... the first time I saw you and your brother shoot, as an RO at Kettle Falls two years ago, you two became the model for me, the FNG, as to how a team should shoot together... you could ask a bunch of the guys in this very thread... I refer to it all of the time.
I just showed up to shoot.
Thank you... congrats to you as well! </div></div>
Nothing weird Chad...don't worry about it. Congratulations...you shot well. We appreciate your comments as well regarding our team work. By the looks of the scoring layout, they had Jesse and I swapped....I was shooter 1 and he was shooter 2. Doesn't bother me to much. I was more impressed by how well our new cartridge design did than I was concerned with the scoring. Especially considering the new rifles were barely broken in before we went to the match. The most wind we held all day was 1moa...me happy with that! Its a fun and challenging match, and good to see everyone. Looking forward to next year already. I wish Carl would put on a couple matches a year up there.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: farmchick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blueberry or rhubarb?
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Pineapple....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: farmchick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blueberry or rhubarb?
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Pineapple....
