Fieldcraft sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
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Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
think this was covered elsewhere but the consensus if i recall correctly was stuff yer sidearm of choice in ye ole prison purse for optimal carry option.
think this was covered elsewhere but the consensus if i recall correctly was stuff yer sidearm of choice in ye ole prison purse for optimal carry option.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
Probably depends on what options you have for carrying it already. I like carrying mine on a chest rig like a cross draw holster if you've got something like the TC's ROID hood.
If you've got a full jacket and no pants, a drop leg is a good way to go.
If you've got a full suit, top and pants...I HAVE NO IDEA. Tucked in your drag bag might not be a bad spot.
Probably depends on what options you have for carrying it already. I like carrying mine on a chest rig like a cross draw holster if you've got something like the TC's ROID hood.
If you've got a full jacket and no pants, a drop leg is a good way to go.
If you've got a full suit, top and pants...I HAVE NO IDEA. Tucked in your drag bag might not be a bad spot.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
Drop holster. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LANYARD, where ever you put it. Unless it is in your prison purse, then I would hope you would notice if you loose it.
Drop holster. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LANYARD, where ever you put it. Unless it is in your prison purse, then I would hope you would notice if you loose it.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
I would NOT use a drop holster. Your pistol will get snagged on vines and brush. It's bad enough getting your gillie snagged. You don't need a pistol getting you caught up as well. Drop bolsters are also very uncomfortable in vehicles. I would only recommend them with use of a heavy entry vest. I use a tactical vest and attach a belt on the bottom, which keeps my pistol on my hip. Doesn't snag. I would recommend a lanyard no matter what you decide.
I would NOT use a drop holster. Your pistol will get snagged on vines and brush. It's bad enough getting your gillie snagged. You don't need a pistol getting you caught up as well. Drop bolsters are also very uncomfortable in vehicles. I would only recommend them with use of a heavy entry vest. I use a tactical vest and attach a belt on the bottom, which keeps my pistol on my hip. Doesn't snag. I would recommend a lanyard no matter what you decide.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
The three things to consider are protection of the weapon's action, retention, and speed of deployment.
If you are crawling around alot chest rigs tend to hurt after awhile. Drop leg holsters should have a cover flap to keep crud out of the action. A buttbag would be great if you dont need your pistol in a hurry.
A dummy cord is a great idea, just remember it can snag everything along the way if not taped down (kind of interfers with quick deployment though)
If your stalk is mostly high crawl or slow walking then conventional carry will work. If sitting still then anything that makes you grin is cool.
The three things to consider are protection of the weapon's action, retention, and speed of deployment.
If you are crawling around alot chest rigs tend to hurt after awhile. Drop leg holsters should have a cover flap to keep crud out of the action. A buttbag would be great if you dont need your pistol in a hurry.
A dummy cord is a great idea, just remember it can snag everything along the way if not taped down (kind of interfers with quick deployment though)
If your stalk is mostly high crawl or slow walking then conventional carry will work. If sitting still then anything that makes you grin is cool.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marduk185</div><div class="ubbcode-body">think this was covered elsewhere but the consensus if i recall correctly was stuff yer sidearm of choice in ye ole prison purse for optimal carry option.</div></div>
+1, just be sure not to eat beans the night before youre aforementioned stalk, might fart and shoot yerself
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marduk185</div><div class="ubbcode-body">think this was covered elsewhere but the consensus if i recall correctly was stuff yer sidearm of choice in ye ole prison purse for optimal carry option.</div></div>
+1, just be sure not to eat beans the night before youre aforementioned stalk, might fart and shoot yerself
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
Tankers rig sounds like a good idea. I dont like the drop leg setup for crawling around (it gets in the way). I like chest rigs/tactical vests. If items are spaced out right, you shouldnt have to lay on them.
Tankers rig sounds like a good idea. I dont like the drop leg setup for crawling around (it gets in the way). I like chest rigs/tactical vests. If items are spaced out right, you shouldnt have to lay on them.
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Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">? in your teeth
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Many guys had their rig set up were they could off their self's w/o removing the pistol from the holster, if need be. Doubt that's going to be the case for US LE, but for Military or Civi contractors,... beats the shit out of whats going to happen if you get caught in far away lands.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">? in your teeth
Many guys had their rig set up were they could off their self's w/o removing the pistol from the holster, if need be. Doubt that's going to be the case for US LE, but for Military or Civi contractors,... beats the shit out of whats going to happen if you get caught in far away lands.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
Tried the drop leg got snagged on every thing. When going through school guy lost his pistol in small of back. Luckily we found it. Been thinking of shoulder rig or chest holster.
Tried the drop leg got snagged on every thing. When going through school guy lost his pistol in small of back. Luckily we found it. Been thinking of shoulder rig or chest holster.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
The chest rig worn up high on the chest (over your pec but not so far towards your weak side shoulder that it binds when you are on your rifle, and so you are not crawling on it and it can be drawn without a bunch of movement. This keeps the pistol in your work space and out of your way at the same time. Set it up right it can be drawn even if you are on your rifle and need to roll over and come out shooting or punch out to the front or sides. It is worn cross draw so it does not interfere with your strong side shooting shoulder. Small of your back you will never get to it in time before you are discovered (flopping around like a fish trying to get it out from under your ghillie, hip carry not much better and uncomfortable when you have to roll up on your side, drop leg again pain to get to and way too much movement and you will fill it up with dirt and crud, it is like having a drag line hooked to your side. When stalking you should damn near dumby cord everything to include your pistol. Tuck the lanyard under the holster platform so it does not snag on anything. My chief scout sniper had High Speed Gear build him one years ago that was really nice with a mag pouch, and a place to stick a fixed blade knife (which was plum handy) fully adjustable and a mesh backing to allow air flow. If I remember correctly it was set up so that it would convert to a semi drop leg holster when just patrolling. The bottom line however is that you will have to try some different set ups and adjustments before you get what you are really comfortable with. I ended up with a M12 holster fashioned to a tankers chest rig and it worked pretty good. Let us know what you end up with.
The chest rig worn up high on the chest (over your pec but not so far towards your weak side shoulder that it binds when you are on your rifle, and so you are not crawling on it and it can be drawn without a bunch of movement. This keeps the pistol in your work space and out of your way at the same time. Set it up right it can be drawn even if you are on your rifle and need to roll over and come out shooting or punch out to the front or sides. It is worn cross draw so it does not interfere with your strong side shooting shoulder. Small of your back you will never get to it in time before you are discovered (flopping around like a fish trying to get it out from under your ghillie, hip carry not much better and uncomfortable when you have to roll up on your side, drop leg again pain to get to and way too much movement and you will fill it up with dirt and crud, it is like having a drag line hooked to your side. When stalking you should damn near dumby cord everything to include your pistol. Tuck the lanyard under the holster platform so it does not snag on anything. My chief scout sniper had High Speed Gear build him one years ago that was really nice with a mag pouch, and a place to stick a fixed blade knife (which was plum handy) fully adjustable and a mesh backing to allow air flow. If I remember correctly it was set up so that it would convert to a semi drop leg holster when just patrolling. The bottom line however is that you will have to try some different set ups and adjustments before you get what you are really comfortable with. I ended up with a M12 holster fashioned to a tankers chest rig and it worked pretty good. Let us know what you end up with.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Old tankers chest rig mounted up side down, an padded with GI socks. Easy to get to w/o being seen after jumping into a hasty Hide if needed. You can get it out w/o being seen if you need to eat one, or take some with you. </div></div>
^ i second this, i used to carry my m9 in a old tankers chest rig on my weak side wich made it about as comf as you can get and still offers you a natural motion if you come across a time you need to pull it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Old tankers chest rig mounted up side down, an padded with GI socks. Easy to get to w/o being seen after jumping into a hasty Hide if needed. You can get it out w/o being seen if you need to eat one, or take some with you. </div></div>
^ i second this, i used to carry my m9 in a old tankers chest rig on my weak side wich made it about as comf as you can get and still offers you a natural motion if you come across a time you need to pull it.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
The old tankers chest rig would that be the leather shoulder holster for the 1911's?
The old tankers chest rig would that be the leather shoulder holster for the 1911's?
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
Personally, mine stays in a shoulder rig on my weak side, I have to unbutton my top button to get to it, but its under my top so it doesn't snag, isn't in a pack so I can actually get to it in a faily decent time, and not on my chest so it hinders crawl of positioning.
Personally, mine stays in a shoulder rig on my weak side, I have to unbutton my top button to get to it, but its under my top so it doesn't snag, isn't in a pack so I can actually get to it in a faily decent time, and not on my chest so it hinders crawl of positioning.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: platypus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The chest rig worn up high on the chest (over your pec but not so far towards your weak side shoulder that it binds when you are on your rifle, and so you are not crawling on it and it can be drawn without a bunch of movement. This keeps the pistol in your work space and out of your way at the same time. Set it up right it can be drawn even if you are on your rifle and need to roll over and come out shooting or punch out to the front or sides. It is worn cross draw so it does not interfere with your strong side shooting shoulder. Small of your back you will never get to it in time before you are discovered (flopping around like a fish trying to get it out from under your ghillie, hip carry not much better and uncomfortable when you have to roll up on your side, drop leg again pain to get to and way too much movement and you will fill it up with dirt and crud, it is like having a drag line hooked to your side. When stalking you should damn near dumby cord everything to include your pistol. Tuck the lanyard under the holster platform so it does not snag on anything. My chief scout sniper had High Speed Gear build him one years ago that was really nice with a mag pouch, and a place to stick a fixed blade knife (which was plum handy) fully adjustable and a mesh backing to allow air flow. If I remember correctly it was set up so that it would convert to a semi drop leg holster when just patrolling. The bottom line however is that you will have to try some different set ups and adjustments before you get what you are really comfortable with. I ended up with a M12 holster fashioned to a tankers chest rig and it worked pretty good. Let us know what you end up with. </div></div>
+1.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: platypus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The chest rig worn up high on the chest (over your pec but not so far towards your weak side shoulder that it binds when you are on your rifle, and so you are not crawling on it and it can be drawn without a bunch of movement. This keeps the pistol in your work space and out of your way at the same time. Set it up right it can be drawn even if you are on your rifle and need to roll over and come out shooting or punch out to the front or sides. It is worn cross draw so it does not interfere with your strong side shooting shoulder. Small of your back you will never get to it in time before you are discovered (flopping around like a fish trying to get it out from under your ghillie, hip carry not much better and uncomfortable when you have to roll up on your side, drop leg again pain to get to and way too much movement and you will fill it up with dirt and crud, it is like having a drag line hooked to your side. When stalking you should damn near dumby cord everything to include your pistol. Tuck the lanyard under the holster platform so it does not snag on anything. My chief scout sniper had High Speed Gear build him one years ago that was really nice with a mag pouch, and a place to stick a fixed blade knife (which was plum handy) fully adjustable and a mesh backing to allow air flow. If I remember correctly it was set up so that it would convert to a semi drop leg holster when just patrolling. The bottom line however is that you will have to try some different set ups and adjustments before you get what you are really comfortable with. I ended up with a M12 holster fashioned to a tankers chest rig and it worked pretty good. Let us know what you end up with. </div></div>
+1.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">? in your teeth
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+1 My thoughts exactly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">? in your teeth
+1 My thoughts exactly.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
still thinking the delta force rucksack is optimum
still thinking the delta force rucksack is optimum
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
I think i'm going to try the shoulder holster. My ghillie top has a zipper like a jacket. If I woulld need to deploy my side arm i couldit pull the zipper down a bit and will have my hand around my pistol grip.
I think i'm going to try the shoulder holster. My ghillie top has a zipper like a jacket. If I woulld need to deploy my side arm i couldit pull the zipper down a bit and will have my hand around my pistol grip.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
jayjay just dont keep yer brown eye open when shooting or it could get negligent.
jayjay just dont keep yer brown eye open when shooting or it could get negligent.
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I like a thigh holster. The old issued one with the flap was quiet and protected the gun well.
I like a thigh holster. The old issued one with the flap was quiet and protected the gun well.
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
if you rock a 2 piece ghillie i would put it on my hip or back under my top
if you rock a 2 piece ghillie i would put it on my hip or back under my top
Re: sidearm placement when in the ghillie suit
Put it on your drag bag or try the 5.11 holster shirt - they make great compression shirts with holsters built in. Of course, you'll not be the fastest draw. But, it is comfortable for extended wearing and won't dig into your chest if you are low crawling all day. It also will not snag on stuff. Make sure you practice drawing out of whatever you end up using, and from whatever positions you think you'll be in.
Put it on your drag bag or try the 5.11 holster shirt - they make great compression shirts with holsters built in. Of course, you'll not be the fastest draw. But, it is comfortable for extended wearing and won't dig into your chest if you are low crawling all day. It also will not snag on stuff. Make sure you practice drawing out of whatever you end up using, and from whatever positions you think you'll be in.
