I really like the 10k but the price is a little more than I want to spend right now. Found a pair of 3k bnib for $850 that I’m thinking pretty hard about though.
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Damn I was going to use these for elk hunting. The blue tint is really that bad?Then if you can live with or they correct the overly blue tent, then the 10k are winners. It’s manageable for match duty but a huge no go for hunters.
I’m color blind and have a hard time differentiating shades of colors, but the blue tint was obvious to me.Damn I was going to use these for elk hunting. The blue tint is really that bad?
Are they any more blue than the 3k? I see a lot of complaints about the blue for the 3k, too, but it doesn't bother me much on mine.
Photo was taken Saturday earlyish (around 9am) morning. Very overcast with the sun up.Yes, they made the 3k look clear. Spent most of the match behind some 3k and I was surprise by the difference.
Photo stolen from @RS14. The photo was mostly likely mid morning with a little overcast but the sun was out.
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If I had any other way of sharing it with you I would. I can’t embed it directly into this sight sadly.Any video for those who don't do IG, FB, whatever...?
The tint looks terrible/strange/bad-for-cloudy-people
I'm still on the list for one though..![]()
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Besides the blue tint how is the "image quality" most specifically depth of field, CA, and edge to edge?The blue tint was so distracting to me that they immediately became a no go. Color is part of image quality. I really do not like the Sig 10k Blue's.
They’re probably all going to be recalled anyway. Hopefully they have it figured out by the 3rd generation.I mean let's wait until we actually see these in person, albeit a few actually have real world experience, 99% are just hating on something they haven't seen in person..... Almost like the razor gen 3 thread .....
Depth of field CA and edge to edge have all been good. It’s just blue and dark. In a normal match type setting I have zero complaints(might be a issue in some of the steel safari type matches) For a hunter or other field settings they might be to dark causing issuesBesides the blue tint how is the "image quality" most specifically depth of field, CA, and edge to edge?
I’ve been anti sig for quite some time. And basically everything sig I’ve touched in years has been very disappointing. But i do really like these. I just wish they were less blue.For over 30 years I’ve avoided Sig products, yet here I am with the Kilo10k on the way.
I’m also thinking about starting a YouTube channel called “how not to do things” where I get impatient and fuck stuff up.
I think that is more often the case, some can’t see CA, some cannot see the hue in different optics. I think our eyes are sensitive to different wavelengths of the spectrum leading to the “I love it and can’t see it” vs “I hate it and can’t get past it”. For me personally, I find neutral to warm more pleasing and yielding better detail to my eyes.Are they any more blue than the 3k? I see a lot of complaints about the blue for the 3k, too, but it doesn't bother me much on mine.
That's unfortunate, I say, after waiting since Sep 13. for the 10ks, with a supposed one month delay, and still not having them. As much as I'd prefer the readout on these to the Leica Geovid Pros, I'm starting to consider abandoning my place in line for those now that they have AB Elite as a possibility, built in. I'm just waiting to see a user manual to see how usability will be, especially for wind entry. From the reviews I've read, it's not great because you can only increment wind speed upwards, and have to go up to 50 units to go back down to 0. Hopefully they've implemented long press for more than single unit jumps.Depth of field CA and edge to edge have all been good. It’s just blue and dark. In a normal match type setting I have zero complaints(might be a issue in some of the steel safari type matches) For a hunter or other field settings they might be to dark causing issues
I’ve been anti sig for quite some time. And basically everything sig I’ve touched in years has been very disappointing. But i do really like these. I just wish they were less blue.
That's unfortunate, I say, after waiting since Sep 13. for the 10ks, with a supposed one month delay, and still not having them. As much as I'd prefer the readout on these to the Leica Geovid Pros, I'm starting to consider abandoning my place in line for those now that they have AB Elite as a possibility, built in. I'm just waiting to see a user manual to see how usability will be, especially for wind entry. From the reviews I've read, it's not great because you can only increment wind speed upwards, and have to go up to 50 units to go back down to 0. Hopefully they've implemented long press for more than single unit jumps.
The whole idea behind this swap for me (sold my old RFs last year) was to get away from a BT connected Kestrel powering all the ballistics for my RF, but I don't want Tasco lenses on binoculars, as that defeats their purpose in observation.
By reading the wind. You don't shoot at animals with 20+ mph winds that are impossible to read/differentiate at any distance where wind matters. For PRS use when you're lugging around 25lb rifles 20 feet, carrying another Kestrel or whatever is a non-issue, so the value proposition is likely not there. I don't think the Leica binoculars are really directly targeting PRS use-cases.This is kinda where I'm at too. The Leica's seem to be ticking the most boxes right now but I want to see more real world reviews before going that direction.
So if you dont plan to use a Kestrel how do you intend to get the wind speed value to input into the Leica's (for example)? Interested as I feel like I need a Kestrel but without it I would be manually guesstimating (my wind reading ability would need improve a LOT) or I'd have to use something like a Weatherflow (cheaper than a Kestrel but it would still need to be there / connected which I sense you are trying to move away from)?.
This applies to big game, certainly. But not to vermin, like prairie dogs. Beyond the fact that they are pests, 20+ mph wind isn’t uncommon on ze prairie, so if I followed the above advice I probably wouldn’t shoot much lolBy reading the wind. You don't shoot at animals with 20+ mph winds that are impossible to read/differentiate at any distance where wind matters.
Haha, yeah, totally fair call-out. I definitely was too general in my statement. If you have a consistent wind in a big flat open plain across your entire shooting distance, something like a Kestrel is going to be a big win, especially trying to pop something as small as a prairie dog.This applies to big game, certainly. But not to vermin, like prairie dogs. Beyond the fact that they are pests, 20+ mph wind isn’t uncommon on ze prairie, so if I followed the above advice I probably wouldn’t shoot much lol
On that note, just ponied up for the Leica 15x LRF binos. My sample seems pretty spectacular, even though some people poo-poo them (“old generation” “image quality like Fury’s” etc).but looking through 18X Vortex UHD's or even 10X Swarovski SL's was a whole different experience. The level of detail and clarity is just cool.
Sig rep told me if you press both buttons at the same time it’ll quick access the wind. Can you see if that works?So a couple cliff notes after messing with it for a couple minutes.
It's not that blue, especially in daylight. Is it noticeable looking for it, sure. But it doesn't stand out.
The wind mph is adjustable, up AND down on the same menu.
The compass and on board sensors lined up with my kestrel right next to it. And the compass auto calibrates.... Looking at you kestrel I spin in 3 circles.. lol
And above all, this thing gives you information FAST!
let me know if there's anything you want to know, I'm still just starting to mess with it.
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Slicker Bino Bandit - Blocks Glare, Improves Visual Acuity, and Reduces Eye Fatigue. Fits All Binoculars. Amazon product ASIN B0788TSTV6What is that shade/eye cover thing on the binos, and where can I get one?
I’ll try this later and advise.Sig rep told me if you press both buttons at the same time it’ll quick access the wind. Can you see if that works?
There’s a video review on it from Barbourcreek. 10 minutes or so. It’s better to just set it manually to what you know the outside temp is if your going from inside to outside and will potentially be shooting quickly.How quickly does it respond to environmental changes? If you don’t mind letting it acclimate inside to room temperature, checking humidity and temperature, then going outside and checking periodically until temperature and humidity match a kestrel/external reference, that’d be useful. The 3ks took a while, and I suspect these do too, but it would be neat to see. Thanks!
Yes that is exactly what happens. First menu is adjust wind speed either up or down 1mph at a time, next screen is direction.Sig rep told me if you press both buttons at the same time it’ll quick access the wind. Can you see if that works?