Sidearms & Scatterguns Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

[Pew...Ding]

About a year ago I purchased a Sig Mosquito .22 pistol. I liked the way it felt and aimed. I took it to the range and it misfired 3 out of every 10 or so with remington and federal bulk. I was then told that CCI is what it likes to feed. I tryed that and it went well with a misfired every 50 rounds or so. In my eyes a .22 pistol or anygun should fire any commercial brand of the designated caliber round. No one wants to shoot the expensive stuff when plinking with a .22 so I traded it in for a ruger 22/45. It was the best choice I have made on a .22.

Now, at a recent gun show, I got a feel for the Sig P238 (.380). I loved the way it felt and aimed. But I am scared for my past history with their.22. Someone told me that sig outsourced their .22 to make it affordable so the quailty isnt as good at their regular line of pistols. Can someone confirm this or has anyone had good luck with their regular line of pistols? I need more encouragement to justify spending money on a brand that has failed me in the past. Thanks

 

[Shortdraw]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

All the Sig Sauer pistols I have used have been very high quality and functioned flawlessly. The Mosquito is the exception.

 

[Pew...Ding]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

Thanks! Whats the reason for this? I want to by a regular Sig, I really do because they look and feel pretty nice.

 

[ggmanning]

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I have one I took in trade and it has fed everything I have shot really well with or without a suppressor. I prefer to shoot Ruger 22's but the kids love the Sig...feels like a "big gun" to them.

 

[1shot2kill]

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i did the same sold the mosquito and got a 22/45 as far as the 238 goes i have never seen a 380 pistol run flawlessly so i think you would be disappointed with it as well

 

[BoilerUP]

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Can't speak for the P238 but my father has both a P230 and P232 .380 and they work wonderfully. I have a P229 .40SW and used to have a SigPRO P2340, they also are/were great.

My wife also used to have a Colt Pocketlite .380 and it went through hundreds of rounds without failure.

The interwebs shows the Mosquito had a lot of reliability issues when it was introduced, so I wouldn't let that experience sway you from centerfire Sigs...they're some of the most accurate, reliable handguns made.

 

[KHOOKS]

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I have a P238 to shoots great. But I have had some mag issues with it. The factory mag does not lock the slide back on the last round and a promag mag don't want to chamber the first round. All I have fired thru the gun is Hornady critical defence which worked flawlessly in the factory mag but don't lock the slide back. The other ammo type was Winchester white box stuff. I believe the bullet flat nose was catching on the ramp and not chambering the first round from the mag on the promag mag. You can look at the two mags loaded and the angle of the top round is way different and I believe this is causing my issues with it. Other than these mag issue the gun runs great. If it was me I'd buy only factory mags. There about $20 more than the promags but I think there better made for the gun.

 

[aloreman]

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we have found that the skeeters will eat cci blazer like its its job

 

[aloreman]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

there fun to plink with you get what you pay for. you want sig quality buy a 226 in 22lr

 

[pengilly]

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Lakeshooter,
I was told when you get a new Sig Mosquito the first 500 rounds should be CCI mini mags to break it in then somewhere down the road of that you can shoot anything. Mine for the record shoots great

 

[SIG700]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

The Mosquito's suck- should not have the name Sig Sauer on them. The P238's are decent- if you get one with out the magazine issues (which i've heard is an easy fix). As long as you stay away from the Sig Pro (2022/2340 etc) you'll get real Sig quality. (I'm not a fan of the 250 either, but that's mostly because i don't believe pistols should have plastic as a main part.) I have two Sig pistols (as my signature didn't tell you) that I carry on a daily basis- never had a single issue with either (not even a stove pipe).

Long story short- Minus the Mosquito- (and pro series)- Sigs are quality. Do not be afraid to get one. Or two. Or 5...

 

[pdogsbeware]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

Like the others said, you shouldn't have any qualms about buying a Sig product other than the mosquito.
I won't pretend to know why, but it's just one of those things...22s are just finicky. Rugers are the best though. You still get the occasional missfeed, but not NEARLY as much as with the other designs.
But...I digress. Back to the point. Don't think twice about buying the Sig. They have a reputation of quality for a reason.

 

[Ol Rob]

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I have several friends who have purchased the Sig 238. It is a real nice weapon.
Rob

 

[MontanaKid]

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I bought a mosquito a couple summers ago. I got it brand new and also had feeding problems. The problem is the recoil spring. I locked the slide back in the open position and left it for about a week. Kind of a sketchy break in process but since then it feeds low velocity pistol ammo up to mini mags.

 

[3O8Junkie]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

I had a P238 Equinox for awhile, and loved it. It was scary accurate, and a lot of fun to shoot. I would get another if the right deal presented itself.

 

[jmsvickers]

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My buddy bought a 238 nitron (or whatever the finish is) and I fell in love with it no problems and we didn't even lube it up first! sent 50 rds of WWB with out a hiccup and it was very accurate for its size (@ 2" groups at 20-25 feet). Hated the fact that it would pinch your finger sometimes while reloading but that's the only problem I could come up with. go for it worst comes to worst itsa SIG so it should hold its value well, just sell it off id probably buy it (if I can scrape the funds together) or trade for it!

 

[Saito]

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Well I have a little input for the thread.

I've owned 2 Sigs; a P229 in the '90s and a P226 X5 Tactical for the last 3 yrs.

P229-Never had one problem with the it, probably put 3-4k rounds through it. Traded it off in moment of stupidity.

P226 X5-I bought the P226 here on the hide. Most $ I'd ever dropped on a pistol. It's the most unreliable pile of shit I've ever had. On the other hand, Sigs customer service is exceptional. I need to send this sidearm back to them(again) and just tell them I want a new one. It will stove pipe and double feed almost every mag. Yes, I have tried all 9 of the mags I own, so that's not the problem. It was OK after I got it back from Sig but it's back to its old ways now, after less than 200rds. I have more than 3k rds through it. To me, it feels like the recoil spring is too stiff. It is exceptionally accurate and the trigger is phenomenal. I like the pistol, but I'll never trust it.

Btw, one of my close friends here on the hide has a mosquito that he's had problems with.

 

[pdogsbeware]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Saito</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I have a little input for the thread.

I've owned 2 Sigs; a P229 in the '90s and a P226 X5 Tactical for the last 3 yrs.

P226-Never had one problem with the it, probably put 3-4k rounds through it. Traded it off in moment of stupidity.

P226 X5-I bought the P226 here on the hide. Most $ I'd ever dropped on a pistol. It's the most unreliable pile of shit I've ever had. On the other hand, Sigs customer service is exceptional. I need to send this sidearm back to them(again) and just tell them I want a new one. It will stove pipe and double feed almost every mag. Yes, I have tried all 9 of the mags I own, so that's not the problem. It was OK after I got it back from Sig but it's back to its old ways now, after less than 200rds. I have more than 3k rds through it. To me, it feels like the recoil spring is too stiff. It is exceptionally accurate and the trigger is phenomenal. I like the pistol, but I'll never trust it.

Btw, one of my close friend here on the hide has a mosquito that he's had problems with. </div></div>
In your opinion though, is the problems you had the norm for Sig? Every mechanical device can fail, and I admit that Sig's can/do have problems like yours. But you have to admit, it's a rare occurrence.

 

[Saito]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pdogsbeware</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Saito</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I have a little input for the thread.

I've owned 2 Sigs; a P229 in the '90s and a P226 X5 Tactical for the last 3 yrs.

P226-Never had one problem with the it, probably put 3-4k rounds through it. Traded it off in moment of stupidity.

P226 X5-I bought the P226 here on the hide. Most $ I'd ever dropped on a pistol. It's the most unreliable pile of shit I've ever had. On the other hand, Sigs customer service is exceptional. I need to send this sidearm back to them(again) and just tell them I want a new one. It will stove pipe and double feed almost every mag. Yes, I have tried all 9 of the mags I own, so that's not the problem. It was OK after I got it back from Sig but it's back to its old ways now, after less than 200rds. I have more than 3k rds through it. To me, it feels like the recoil spring is too stiff. It is exceptionally accurate and the trigger is phenomenal. I like the pistol, but I'll never trust it.

Btw, one of my close friend here on the hide has a mosquito that he's had problems with. </div></div>
In your opinion though, is the problems you had the norm for Sig? Every mechanical device can fail, and I admit that Sig's can/do have problems like yours. But you have to admit, it's a rare occurrence. </div></div>

No, I absolutely wouldn't say it's the norm for Sig by any means. I've got shitty luck(I really do). I wonder if Sig is gonna make good on this deal cuz I want a reliable P226. At this point I may as well sell it and buy 2 M&P 9s....or a 9 and a .40....

 

[Jackalope33B]

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I love my P220. Get a KAHR 380..

 

[leadbullet]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

both my mosquitos were jammomatics out of the box, a little research on the sig forum revealed that they need to be broken in with around 4-500 of CCI mini mag. once done they run flawlessly
They were right, after many more jams FTE, FTF etc, during break in, they are both 100% with whatever ammo a throw in them now.
the trigger lighten up by a lbs also after the 500 minimags.
hope this helps.

 

[sgtkeebler]

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I love my sig 238 haven't had a single problem with it and have tried multiple types of rounds, nice smooth trigger as well.

I have to agree Sig makes great firearms except for the mosquito.

 

[jcwarrior87]

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i have a p238 as my carry gun, I have NO problem putting my safety on it.

 

[DeSnifter]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

Stay away from the p238. I own two and both feed/function unreliably. Stovepipes, improperly seated mags, etc. Stick with the classics. Or wait for the 9mm p224 to come out.

 

[supermoto917]

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on my 3rd Sig and regret selling my 1rs one, a P228, But the P226 Elite Dark and the P220 Combat are both a joy to shoot. Not sue I can say the same for the mosquitos since I have never shot one yet.

 

[dpairborneranger]

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I have a P238 and shoot it monthly about 100-200 rounds. I have not had any problems with it

 

[Sportin Wood]

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You can't take a manufacturer's cheapest and most plastic piece of shit pistol and say the whole company is shit. Yes the Mosquito is crap, but its a 22 and cheap as hell. Purchase, or better yet, see if there is a range nearby that lets you test fire weapons. We have one here that will let you rent any pistol in their case to testfire and see if it fits you.

 

[Arbiter]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Saito</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I have a little input for the thread.

I've owned 2 Sigs; a P229 in the '90s and a P226 X5 Tactical for the last 3 yrs.

P226-Never had one problem with the it, probably put 3-4k rounds through it. Traded it off in moment of stupidity.

P226 X5-I bought the P226 here on the hide. Most $ I'd ever dropped on a pistol. It's the most unreliable pile of shit I've ever had. On the other hand, Sigs customer service is exceptional. I need to send this sidearm back to them(again) and just tell them I want a new one. It will stove pipe and double feed almost every mag. Yes, I have tried all 9 of the mags I own, so that's not the problem. It was OK after I got it back from Sig but it's back to its old ways now, after less than 200rds. I have more than 3k rds through it. To me, it feels like the recoil spring is too stiff. It is exceptionally accurate and the trigger is phenomenal. I like the pistol, but I'll never trust it.

Btw, one of my close friend here on the hide has a mosquito that he's had problems with. </div></div>

Funny...I know someone with well over 100,000 rounds through his X5 without any problems. Did you ever try shooting any really hot ammo through it, to see if it would compensate for a heavier recoil spring?

 

[Twisted .308]

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My Skeeter runs great , it usually only fails to feed or misfire when I run it suppressed with sub-sonic ammo . I found the Augila 60gr.SS to be quite reliable and cycles almost 100% if I keep the gun clean and lubed often. It only starts to act up when it starts to get really dirty and powder residue builds up !
With my .223 Titanium Can

 

[Saito]

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I have tried +P 124 grainers and 147s. It wasn't reliable with those rounds either and if I can't run it with WWB, then I don't want it.

And I meant I had a 229 in .40 back in the 90s.....

 

[kirbstyle]

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I've purchased, used, and carried Sigs since the late 90s when we switched over from the Berettas. I've never had a problem with any of my Sigs.
A nice Sig that I carry when possible is the P225 9mm. It's a single stack, slim, & compact pistol tht has never failed me once since I bought it used. They ren't made anymore and were used as a backup for the German police and are normally cheap if you can find them. It shoots anything I have thrown at it so far and keeps functioning flawlessly.

 

[Jim_D303]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

Sig quality has plummeted from what it once was.

http://www.gao.gov/decisions/bidpro/4023393.htmp

I wouldn't buy a single gun they've made since 2005.

The older used ones are still good, but if you ever need replacement parts you're screwed.

They are NOT the company they once were.

 

[freereload]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

I've got a p239 in .40 that I bought used with no wear for a screamin' price. Based on serial numbers, it seems to have been made around 2000, in America.
It's been absolutely flawless, and the most reliable, accurate pistol I've ever encountered, even when I ran it dry and super dirty, or over-oiled. Couldnt make it jam without getting destructive, even when I limp-wist it intentionally. All wear is very smooth and hasnt progressed a bit since I broke it in. But I've only got about 3500-4000 rounds through it, so take that with a grain of salt.

I wouldnt judge Sig by the Mosquito. Sig does know how to make guns, even today. People say Sig quality has taken a dump in recent years, and I believe it. I've heard stories of first round flyers showing up in their new .226's and wierd stuff like that.
Even with the drop in quality, I still prefer tham over just about any pistol currently made.

I'm just talking about Sig's pistols, though. They 556's seems to be a different story.

 

[2brothers641]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim D</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sig quality has plummeted from what it once was.

http://www.gao.gov/decisions/bidpro/4023393.htmp

I wouldn't buy a single gun they've made since 2005.

The older used ones are still good, but if you ever need replacement parts you're screwed.

They are NOT the company they once were. </div></div>

I wish more people felt this way. That way, it wouldn't be so hard for me to get more Sigs! Sig makes great pistols. There is a chance you get a lemon with any company.

 

[oakmax]

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Nice to know , was thikin of pickin up a sig for the Mrs.

 

[glocksig40]

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I have several Sig pistols including the P238. I carry the 238 in my front pocket all the time. I've shot it about 100 times and my wife has shot it about 50 times with target pnching ammo. Accurate as you can ask for and never any issues. The mosquito I had was a cheap piece of shit and it belongs to someone else now. Don't bade your Sig buying experience on the mosquito. Top notch pistols.

 

[tsavo303]

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dont know about the skeeter, but it has it own return for repair link
thats not good.

have many thousands of rounds thru my 229 with like 3 stoppages, which could have been operator error. thats as good as it gets

none in a few hundred thru my 220

but my 239 tac trigger broke in the first 300 rounds. they are fixin it

 

[crazybrit]

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My 229 and 220 are awesome, Great shooters. Have had a Mosquito for some time after a couple of hundred it runs great on Federal Auto Match Bulk.

 

[HAMR2/75RGR]

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I have a Sig 229 .40 cal. Bought it off a local city cop after they bought out and changed to the 226 40 cals. It's had close to a thousand rounds through it and never had any issues. Love it. Thinking of getting the 226 tactical now.

 

[Veer_G]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kirbstyle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A nice Sig that I carry when possible is the P225 9mm. It's a single stack, slim, & compact pistol tht has never failed me once since I bought it used. They ren't made anymore and <span style="font-weight: bold">were used as a backup for the German police</span> and are normally cheap if you can find them. It shoots anything I have thrown at it so far and keeps functioning flawlessly.</div></div>

Are you basing that on knowledge, or what you were told in the shop, or an assumption based on its relative size and the fact that it's single-stack?

The P6 was one of a few 9x19 pistols available to West German police agencies for about twenty years or so, and was quite the popular option for standard issue.

 

[plong]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

The Mosquito is "Sig" in name only, it's actually made for Sig by GSG in Germany. Just as Umarex makes that train-wreck called the P22 for Walther and now the M&P22 for Smith. I wouldn't judge any of the centerfire Sig pistols based on your experience with the Mosquito.

I had a Mosquito and while my experience was good I've heard from many who have had extremely bad experiences with them and there are many such stories all over the interwebs. When I hear people having problems with fail-to-feed in a .22 pistol I wonder how many of those problems are caused by limp-wristing. I know that sounds funny with a .22 but a .22 pistol requires a <span style="font-style: italic">very</span> firm grip to function properly. There is so little energy from the small powder charge there is literally none to spare and even the slightest limp-wristing that would be indiscernible in a centerfire pistol can cause a problem in a .22.

I strongly disagree with those that say “all” the newer Sig pistols are “no good…” The traditional models (read that as metal frame) coming out of Exeter are very nice in my experience. There were some QC issues a number of years ago but those have been addressed and the current production is very nice IMHO. If you are looking for a Tupperware, I believe there are better options than Sig.

 

[Veer_G]

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Well said, plong. Weight erases some of the tendency to limpwrist, and this run of inexpensive rimfire (they are, really they are) lightweight lookalikes isn't well suited for the inexperienced or the long run, by the looks of it. Lots of better choices for a .22 LR pistol, but the Mosquito is more a reflection on SIG's choice of partners than anything else.

 

[Raven6 Actual]

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I very much concur, the Skeeter is very sub-par for Sig and plong nailed it, it's name alone.

I currently own Sigs in 9mm, .40 S&W, .357 SIG (love it!) and ranging in models from the P239 to a SIG P226CR and I swear by them. I have a P226 and P228 that are about 10 years old and the P226CR is only about a year old. I have had ZERO issues with them and would recommend them to anyone.

I had the Skeeter for about 2 months and I was wholly unimpressed. I sold it ASAP and got my self the new upper for my P226 in .22LR. Night and day difference plus it mimics the same size and a similar weight (minus ammo) so I can train my fundamentals similar to my carry.

 

[shedhorn]

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i own three sig pistols. 226 in 40 s&w, 228 in 40 s&w, and a 556 223 pistol. all have been great to me.

 

[Five7guy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Like the others said, you shouldn't have any qualms about buying a Sig product other than the mosquito. </div></div>
Agreed my dad and I had a mosquito (joint ownership) nice feeling and looking pistol but just not the quality of the sig had some troubles jamming aswell and just wasnt all that great. However Ive owned other centerfire pistols various models and caliber multiple Glocks, several HKs and the one thats stayed with me is my Sig P226 Blackwater tactical finest handgun Ive owned yet in a 9mm not to say the others are bad this one just looked felt and shot the best for Me. So please as quoted above dont let that mosquito ruin your Sig experience

 

[donp326]

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I have a Sig P-220 that I have had since the early 1980's. It has made in West Germany on the slide and came with a "proof" target and I paid $420.00 for it new. I carry with Crimson Trace laser grips as my evening and night conceal carry piece.

 

[callen3615]

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My buddy has a mosquito. Its horrible. It wont feed/extract any 22s. Awful.

 

[nfitton]

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I have I think 8 sig's at last count. I only have one mosquito. I haven't had any problem with it other than at the beginning when it wanted to be cleaned after about each 100 rds shot through it. And I typically use federal bulk ammo. I have helped a lot of people out with their problems however and noticed the vast majority of them had the recoil spring installed backward. Most gun stores I have visited did not even know it was directional. They knew it came with two springs (one for standard and one for mini-mags), but they didn't know they were directional. Not saying this is your problem, but in most cases it corrects the issues. ALL 22's are finicky and need cleaning often. The best I have come across so far have been the umarex imports (made by carl walther). I have fired over 700 rds from each of them with no cleaning and only 3 drops of oil with no malfunctions...

 

[longguntoter]

Re: Sig Mosquito Scared Me Away from Sig Pistols

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lakeshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">About a year ago I purchased a Sig Mosquito .22 pistol. I liked the way it felt and aimed. I took it to the range and it misfired 3 out of every 10 or so with remington and federal bulk. I was then told that CCI is what it likes to feed. I tryed that and it went well with a misfired every 50 rounds or so. In my eyes a .22 pistol or anygun should fire any commercial brand of the designated caliber round. No one wants to shoot the expensive stuff when plinking with a .22 so I traded it in for a ruger 22/45. It was the best choice I have made on a .22.

Now, at a recent gun show, I got a feel for the Sig P238 (.380). I loved the way it felt and aimed. But I am scared for my past history with their.22. Someone told me that sig outsourced their .22 to make it affordable so the quailty isnt as good at their regular line of pistols. Can someone confirm this or has anyone had good luck with their regular line of pistols? I need more encouragement to justify spending money on a brand that has failed me in the past. Thanks </div></div>A guy I work with has a SIG Mosquito, but does not like it that much due to the same problems that you are having with it. I won't buy one.

 

[Downzero]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shedhorn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i own three sig pistols. 226 in 40 s&w, 228 in 40 s&w, and a 556 223 pistol. all have been great to me. </div></div>

228 never came in .40