Signed, sealed, delivered.....

Another "We have to pass it so we can read it" time crunch deadline. Trump caved. Starting to feel McCain-ish about him...

Methinks it's time for some more Obama style sequestration. Sauce for the goose, sauce...

Greg
 
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/congress-guns-fix-nics-baby-steps/556250/

The enormous federal spending bill, unveiled late Wednesday and moving rapidly through the House and Senate, includes legislation known as the Fix NICS Act that uses a combination of incentives and punishments to prod federal agencies and the military to upload records into the background-check system for purchasing guns. Republicans insisted on including the bipartisan bill in the $1.3 trillion omnibus appropriations bill rather than accede to demands from Democrats and activists for a broader debate over gun-control measures.
 
Doesn't it also give money to the CDC to produce anti 2A propaganda (I think they call it research)?

This was discussed in the article I linked.
A legislative report accompanying the bill also clarifies that a 22-year-old amendment widely criticized by gun-control advocates does not prohibit the CDC from conducting research on “the causes of gun violence.” And following the school shootings in Parkland, Florida, and elsewhere, the spending bill includes a bipartisan measure injecting additional money into grant programs for improving security at schools—though it does not fund training for armed teachers, as President Trump had called for.

From the linked copy of the report:
While appropriations language prohibits the CDC and other agencies from using appropriated funding to advocate or promote gun control, the Secretary of Health and Human Services has stated the CDC has the authority to conduct research on the causes of gun violence.
 
In the end it doesn't matter as much as people think.
Nobody at any level of the government actually has the guts to force a balanced budget.

Much as the Republicans made a big deal of how many times they voted to repeal Obamacare when they knew it would be vetoed..... the moment they controlled the house, the senate and the presidency, they folded faster than you could blink.

The huge government shutdown fights are basically over will you spend 1% more than you spent last year or the 3% to 4% more that somebody wants. They call "budget cuts" anything that is not at least 2% higher than last year!

If you actually wanted to be "Fiscally Conservative" it would require at a first minimum step... stop spending more than you take in.
The average yearly Federal Budget Deficit portion is 30%.... Nobody is going to be willing to cut down to that level.

So it's all smoke and mirrors & won't change till one day the end comes and the government can't borrow anymore and the whole thing first goes to hard wealth confiscation "or borrowing it for a bit" and then fully crashes... Then the big world controlling money brokers, will take everything and let you start over from scratch working to earn back some of what they took from you. Pretty much the cycle Latin America seems to go through over and over.
 
In the end it doesn't matter as much as people think.
Nobody at any level of the government actually has the guts to force a balanced budget.

Much as the Republicans made a big deal of how many times they voted to repeal Obamacare when they knew it would be vetoed..... the moment they controlled the house, the senate and the presidency, they folded faster than you could blink.

The huge government shutdown fights are basically over will you spend 1% more than you spent last year or the 3% to 4% more that somebody wants. They call "budget cuts" anything that is not at least 2% higher than last year!

If you actually wanted to be "Fiscally Conservative" it would require at a first minimum step... stop spending more than you take in.
The average yearly Federal Budget Deficit portion is 30%.... Nobody is going to be willing to cut down to that level.

So it's all smoke and mirrors & won't change till one day the end comes and the government can't borrow anymore and the whole thing first goes to hard wealth confiscation "or borrowing it for a bit" and then fully crashes... Then the big world controlling money brokers, will take everything and let you start over from scratch working to earn back some of what they took from you. Pretty much the cycle Latin America seems to go through over and over.


Its a race to the bottom.

Every other country is in equally crappy financial straights and yet countries keep buying the paper debt of other countries.

Its musical chairs with 100 players and only 1 seat.

The end result i think is a cloward piven to force a 1 world govt and the end of sovereignty.
 
Ahh, and more police-state nonsense in a budget bill, too!

https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/22/cloud-act-omnibus-bill-house/
The Center for Democracy and Technology also opposes the CLOUD Act on the grounds that it fails to protect the digital privacy of American citizens and the Electronic Frontier Foundation dismissed the legislation as “a new backdoor around the Fourth Amendment.” The Open Technology Institute also denounced the CLOUD Act’s provision to “allow qualifying foreign governments to enter into an executive agreement to bypass the human rights protective Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) process when seeking data in criminal investigations and to seek data directly from U.S. technology companies.”
 
This might turn some frowns upside down.....
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This might turn some frowns upside down.....View attachment 6886814

Obama had no resistance everyone was on his side because.........they are all on the same side.

Trump is an outsider. He has no support other than what he puts in place under his own decisions but he has been handicapped by people put in place under the suggestion of others.

He has to put his people in place.

If he tries to do anything with this porkulis that is not as specified, unlike under Obam, this will go to a court shopped for its friendliness and his spending will be suspended or tied up in red tape.
 
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That’s it. Im not ever voting again, it makes no difference. This is complete BS. They have figured out that they can do whatever the fuck they want and get us to pay for it while nobody will ever do a damn thing about it. It’s only going to get worse. Welcome to being slaves, just in case you didn’t already know this.
 
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I guess I need to figure out wtf the spirit of an omnibus bill is. Are we at 11th D chess yet? Some other blowhard is saying Trump can get the ACOE to build the wall.
 
Ive seen the hope that Trump will get DOD to build the wall.

He and Mattis agreed at lunch to do that.

I like the idea of a reverse tariff on all western union money transfers out of country to fund part of it as well as requiring every country to pay for their repatriated citizen.
 
I like the idea of a reverse tariff on all western union money transfers out of country to fund part of it as well as requiring every country to pay for their repatriated citizen.

That would really diminish the incentive to sneak over here in the first place. That knife would cut both ways, though.
 
That would really diminish the incentive to sneak over here in the first place. That knife would cut both ways, though.

10 percent of every out of country money gram - a tithe to the Church of America.

$50000 per illegal charged from our current budgeted foreign aid to your country of choice.

When Afmexiuania discovers their escapees are illegally entering USA and resulting in a loss of foreign aid to the tune of $50K each they will be making sure those that want to worship at Church of America visit the US Consulate first.
 
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Someone needs to do something. I have lost my faith in Trump. I mean he was the lesser of two evils, but after today I have lost all faith that he is going to do most of what he says. He is only one guy, but it seems like given every opportunity to inflict change, he makes the wrong choice. I would have vetoed the bill today if I had been the big man. And I would ramrod crap through over the dems because it could certainly be done and they haven’t been doing it. So, I have lost all hope in the president, lost all hope in the republicans and never had hope in the dems to begin with. All of this nonsense just further illustrates what I have been saying for years, it doesn’t matter what side it is because there is no sides, it’s only them. Both parties are one in the same. Hell, they just voted themselves a fucking raise in this bill yet they are worried about keeping the government open. That makes a lot of sense. And heck, I am just now making decent money for once. I wish I could just vote myself a raise whenever the hell I please or spend everyone else’s money however I wanted whenever I wanted! It’s time for these fuckers to be knocked off the seat or start doing their jobs now, not later right now. None of this, I’m not going to do it again bullshit. Do we honestly believe any of that? I’m fucking livid.
 
If he gets the right people in place he will have the power to expose the swamp.

You would think now that Bolton has keys to the puzzle palace you just expose the soft coup.

Declassify the FISA warrants, get Contreras on the stand, expose Mitch McConnels deals with China, allow the sunlight to disinfect.

Fucking start burning their house down.

If it causes them to run into the street and create mayhem than so mote it be.

It can be handled.
 
If he gets the right people in place he will have the power to expose the swamp.

You would think now that Bolton has keys to the puzzle palace you just expose the soft coup.

Declassify the FISA warrants, get Contreras on the stand, expose Mitch McConnels deals with China, allow the sunlight to disinfect.

Fucking start burning their house down.

If it causes them to run into the street and create mayhem than so mote it be.

It can be handled.

You have more faith in this group than I do. I hope it’s exactly like you say it is but I’m not so sure. Everyone keeps saying Trump is playing 4D chess but im not so sure. You ever heard the man speak? He sounds like an idiot. He can hardly put a sentence together most of the time. I’d like to believe that is a front in some way but again, I’m not so sure it is. All I know is that stuff needs to start happening fast, his base is quickly losing patience and I’m not sure how much longer the anger towards everyone is going to be able to be contained. Everyone I know is livid and if they don’t do something in a hurry to change this course then I fear there is going to be an angry mob descending on Washington and it won’t be pretty. We don’t want that, but people’s patience is running thin. And sadly, if that happens it will help the dems because they will label everyone in that camp as crazy people who want to overthrow the government. The sheeple will buy it hook line and sinker and then we are going to have some trouble. I only see four options, one is that the people in power right this ship before all hell breaks loose, two the ship never gets corrected and the mob descends on WA and we know what happens next, three we peacefully split the country into two halfs, dems on one and conservatives on the other, or four we have enough states ban together to force the change that is needed to keep the country together.
 
Every one of us that they can get to turn away from the voting booth is another vote in their pocket that they will not have to match in order to crush us..

So go ahead, throw your arms up in despair, don't vote, and do their bidding. Another high five for the Libs. So well played, Sir...

Trump knows there will be another pass at each and every one of these issues. He plays the long game, the opposite of which is precisely what got us to here. Nobody ever gets all of what they ask for out of DC, but since your candidates must reflect the mirror image of your own deepest desires, you will wait forever to find that perfect one you will deign to vote for from your ivory tower.

Get real.

Stay the course, MAGA!

Greg
 
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I am voting for democrats next round, at least hey are honest and will bring things to a head quickly. Fuck voting for slo motion marxists, I want the real thing to be shown. They teamed up to kill the Tea Party using government apparatus in the name of the IRS and probably the FBI fo all we know. Let’s implode this bitch. Be prepared.
 
I am voting for democrats next round, at least hey are honest and will bring things to a head quickly. Fuck voting for slo motion marxists, I want the real thing to be shown. They teamed up to kill the Tea Party using government apparatus in the name of the IRS and probably the FBI fo all we know. Let’s implode this bitch. Be prepared.

I'd be a bit careful what you wish for. The problem is that too few people are willing to actually fight when it comes to a head and will try to compromise because they still have a lot left to loose. The Democrats would just love all the previous republican voters to skip the polls or go democrat... that is why they always push the "October surprise" in election years.

When the Police who don't care about the constitution or anything else, just following orders show up at your door to take your guns at night, at gun point and threat of murder, are any of your neighbors going to risk everything they have to come out and help you fight & kill them to stop the confiscation? Is your city going to band together to resist with force? Because they will not come to take your guns peaceably.. They will be sending the cops or other storm troopers to disarm you at gunpoint and threat of murder. They will try it one at a time, so unless you have help, the best you can hope for is to die surrounded by a goodly amount of dead storm troopers, and most people won't have that much guts.

Now if the Republicans push through all the gun control stuff, then sure, since we have little to loose, let's punish them hard to teach everyone a lesson. However right now it's probably not a good idea, as the Democrats will thank you very much for getting them into power & then take away your guns and you are never getting them back till the fall of civilization as even if later you vote in "republicans" or something similar, as proven by history, rights lost are almost never regained without bloodshed.

You don't even need to look at England or Australia to see how it didn't matter which government they voted in, they never got back their rights. You can see that in this country... Look at CA for example or NY or any other state, once the liberals got in and took the guns, even when "conservatives" were back in power they never reversed the changes. Nor did anybody in those states band with the gun owners to rise up and fight back.

Right now it's kind of a stand off with the Republicans.... We know they want to sell us out and take away our rights.... They know the only reason they are still in power is because they haven't yet.... The hard left controlled media is playing the siren song of ... everybody will love you if you just do what needs to be done for the greater good..... And will then pounce on them once they do and turn them to shreds.
Not a great place to be for us, but for now it beats the alternative, till we can actually get anybody in that has a spine (and a few do).

While Trump may not be the best... he beats anything the Democrats have to offer by a long shot.
I'd still like to see Pence as president in due time (maybe 2024?)... he'd be better than Biden/Sanders/Pocahontas
 
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I am voting for democrats next round, at least hey are honest and will bring things to a head quickly. Fuck voting for slo motion marxists, I want the real thing to be shown. They teamed up to kill the Tea Party using government apparatus in the name of the IRS and probably the FBI fo all we know. Let’s implode this bitch. Be prepared.
I always thought you were a closet democrat anyway.