Rifle Scopes SIII 10-50x60 mil/mil or moa/moa

[slm9s]

Trying to decide between these two reticle/adjustments in the big SIII. Intended use is on a 5r 300wm for 200-1000 yard informal target shooting, and then maybe putting one on my AR50 for the same purpose. I really like the LRIRMOA reticle but am worried about the .25" dot being to big for precise shooting. Plus I'm not sure I'll use the illuminated reticle much and it makes the scope $200 more expensive. The mil/mil scope is $200 cheaper and mil/mil seems to be very prevalent in long distance shooting. I've read the mildots in this model are huge.
Please don't tell me that this much magnification isn't needed, I'm used to high mag from benchrest and I can always turn it down and weight isn't an issue.
Which would or have you guys chosen? Thanks.

 

[mscott]

Re: SIII 10-50x60 mil/mil or moa/moa

I would buy the mil/mil version and see no reason to pay extra for illumination. I played with a 6-24 version a couple weeks ago and I doubt the dot will be too big for much as anything as it is really small. If anything, too small. I prefer a crosshair personally, but the MOA reticle is pretty nice.
I don't think power is that big of deal, but the one feature you'll be lacking is elevation travel. That scope only has 50 minutes of elevation travel, which will get you to 1k with a 20 min base, but just barely. The 6-24 has 100 moa of travel.

 

[dieselten]

Re: SIII 10-50x60 mil/mil or moa/moa

The dot in the moa scope is not .25 at full magnification, it is much smaller. I have this scope and use it for 500 meter bench rest. The drawing on the web site is confusing at best and totally wrong at worst. There is a better reticle diagram if you download their product catalog from their web site. Only drawback to this scope is it is .25 moa click turrets, not .125 click. The .125 click is only available on the non illuminated versions.

As for a mil adjusted target scope...why get such a course graduation? .1 mil is approx. .340 moa, you can get .125 moa or a .25 moa graduation with the moa versions.

 

[matchking]

Re: SIII 10-50x60 mil/mil or moa/moa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dieselten</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> As for a mil adjusted target scope...why get such a course graduation? .1 mil is approx. .340 moa, you can get .125 moa or a .25 moa graduation with the moa versions.
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The 10-60x has .05MRAD adjustments, so it is a finer adjustment that 1/4 moa.

 

[slm9s]

Re: SIII 10-50x60 mil/mil or moa/moa

My rifle already has a NF 20moa rail. I'm shooting the 208 amax pretty well and I figure roughly 35-40 moa should get me to 1000. So 50moa in the scope is 25 up, plus 20 in the rail is 45 up. So I SHOULD get to 1000 and I can always use the reticle.
I called sightron and they said the moa center dot is .25 at 24x so at 48 its .125 and at 50 just a touch smaller than that. That sounds nice, and it would have the illumation if it was difficult to see against a dark target.
I guess the $200 is the only downside to the moa version for ME, as 1/4" clicks won't bother me that much.

 

[JAAM12]

Re: SIII 10-50x60 mil/mil or moa/moa

What about the 8-32 model? It may fit your needs better. I have two of the SIIISS624X50LRMOA.

John

 

[slm9s]

Re: SIII 10-50x60 mil/mil or moa/moa

John,

I looked at the 8-32 and I know that I'd just be on 32 power the whole time wondering if I could shoot smaller groups if I had 50x available. I guess its just the benchrest shooter in me. The only thing I give up is a little elevation, and I'll still have enough to get to 1000 yards and then I can use the reticle for even more. And extra weight, which is no issue for me.