Suppressors Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

[HPLLC]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

KAC did attempt to use either tungsten or tungsten carbide (I can't remember which) in the past on a program that attempted to provide integrally suppressed 10" uppers to the military. Their experience according to Al Paulson's article was that while it was strong, hard, and wear resistant, it cracked under intense rapid heating, rendering it not suitable for blast baffles.

Ideal baffle materials are hard and strong to high temperatures, and have a significant difference in yield and tensile strengths (AKA are ductile rather than brittle).

I'm not pursuing a material. I simply wanted to expose the flaws in a simple marketing statement which fails totally to express that whatever material they are using is actually superior.

 

[KYS]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dirty HairyDawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The saker was penned as so revolutionary. I don't see it as revolutionary, is it a nice concept and worth considering ? Yes, absolutely. I am in the market for a rifle can and I own a sparrow and osprey so I would like to own one.

BUT

Know what I would consider revolutionary? Silencerco introducing this can and showing off pallet fulls of them, ready to ship. I am so sick of being teased and introductions BEFORE the items are ready to ship. Shot show be damned, build it, build enough to actually take realistic orders and offer them for sale. I am about to order a rifle can, the saker will not be in consideration because it could be another specwar </div></div>

How much fire time do you have with the Saker? How can you view it as revolutionary or not if you have never spent a long amount of time with it on the range. I think it's pretty piss poor to jump on a company that hasn't even released the product in question.

 

[Silenced America]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dirty HairyDawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...Know what I would consider revolutionary? Silencerco introducing this can and showing off pallet fulls of them, ready to ship. I am so sick of being teased and introductions BEFORE the items are ready to ship. Shot show be damned, build it, build enough to actually take realistic orders and offer them for sale. I am about to order a rifle can, the saker will not be in consideration because it could be another specwar </div></div>

Every firearms manufacturer does the same thing. Nothing is every ready to go out the door. I am still waiting on 30 PMR 30s and 10 KSG shotguns from last year. I have not seen one. I am to the point where I don't care to see them either. I wish they were ready to go too.

 

[TexasGunTrustLawyer]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

Some video of the mount.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qa8MocCFw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

Who's jumping on who here? Did you even read what I wrote? I love my silencerco products and would seriously consider the saker IF I didn't have to wait so long to get one. I don't see anything revolutionary, some good ideas? yes, revolutionaty? no, not in my opinion.

i am tired of companies introducing products and then having to wait forever to actually see it on the shelves. Just once i would like to see a company introduce a new product and simultaneously have produced enough of said product to ship. That to me would be something new and exciting. i don;t care how evolutionary or revolutionary a product is, it's meaningless unless the public can actually lay their hands on it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dirty HairyDawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The saker was penned as so revolutionary. I don't see it as revolutionary, is it a nice concept and worth considering ? Yes, absolutely. I am in the market for a rifle can and I own a sparrow and osprey so I would like to own one.

BUT

Know what I would consider revolutionary? Silencerco introducing this can and showing off pallet fulls of them, ready to ship. I am so sick of being teased and introductions BEFORE the items are ready to ship. Shot show be damned, build it, build enough to actually take realistic orders and offer them for sale. I am about to order a rifle can, the saker will not be in consideration because it could be another specwar </div></div>

How much fire time do you have with the Saker? How can you view it as revolutionary or not if you have never spent a long amount of time with it on the range. I think it's pretty piss poor to jump on a company that hasn't even released the product in question. </div></div>

 

[Dirty Hairy Dawg]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

I agree with you, that's why I said it would be revolutionary if they were ready upon introduction. I hope silencerco does better than swr did with the specwar and I assume they will but I hate kel tec for their lack of ability to produce anything firearm related.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Silenced America</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dirty HairyDawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...Know what I would consider revolutionary? Silencerco introducing this can and showing off pallet fulls of them, ready to ship. I am so sick of being teased and introductions BEFORE the items are ready to ship. Shot show be damned, build it, build enough to actually take realistic orders and offer them for sale. I am about to order a rifle can, the saker will not be in consideration because it could be another specwar </div></div>

Every firearms manufacturer does the same thing. Nothing is every ready to go out the door. I am still waiting on 30 PMR 30s and 10 KSG shotguns from last year. I have not seen one. I am to the point where I don't care to see them either. I wish they were ready to go too. </div></div>

 

[jh1990]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dirty Hairy Dawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who's jumping on who here? Did you even read what I wrote? I love my silencerco products and would seriously consider the saker IF I didn't have to wait so long to get one. I don't see anything revolutionary, some good ideas? yes, revolutionaty? no, not in my opinion.

i am tired of companies introducing products and then having to wait forever to actually see it on the shelves. Just once i would like to see a company introduce a new product and simultaneously have produced enough of said product to ship. That to me would be something new and exciting. i don;t care how evolutionary or revolutionary a product is, it's meaningless unless the public can actually lay their hands on it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dirty HairyDawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The saker was penned as so revolutionary. I don't see it as revolutionary, is it a nice concept and worth considering ? Yes, absolutely. I am in the market for a rifle can and I own a sparrow and osprey so I would like to own one.

BUT

Know what I would consider revolutionary? Silencerco introducing this can and showing off pallet fulls of them, ready to ship. I am so sick of being teased and introductions BEFORE the items are ready to ship. Shot show be damned, build it, build enough to actually take realistic orders and offer them for sale. I am about to order a rifle can, the saker will not be in consideration because it could be another specwar </div></div>

How much fire time do you have with the Saker? How can you view it as revolutionary or not if you have never spent a long amount of time with it on the range. I think it's pretty piss poor to jump on a company that hasn't even released the product in question. </div></div> </div></div>

If they didn't release any information people would be busy bitching about that instead.

 

[TexasGunTrustLawyer]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 346ci</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MAJ MALFUNCTION</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Bottom line - their proprietary "Trifecta RS" mount is ROCK SOLID and the can returns to the same position every time - so repeatability should be top notch. </div></div>

Good, maybe AAC can learn from this.... </div></div>

They did. It's called the 90tooth mount

 

[chainring]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

Yeah, I played with the 90 tooth AAC mount. I'm not sure what else can be done to improve on it. It's rock solid AND simple.

 

[DeltaP]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

The SilencerCo<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KAC did attempt to use either tungsten or tungsten carbide (I can't remember which) in the past on a program that attempted to provide integrally suppressed 10" uppers to the military. Their experience according to Al Paulson's article was that while it was strong, hard, and wear resistant, it cracked under intense rapid heating, rendering it not suitable for blast baffles.

Ideal baffle materials are hard and strong to high temperatures, and have a significant difference in yield and tensile strengths (AKA are ductile rather than brittle).

I'm not pursuing a material. I simply wanted to expose the flaws in a simple marketing statement which fails totally to express that whatever material they are using is actually superior.
</div></div>

I would say that the SilencerCo folks are good people. I would probably let them hold my wallet, or silencer for that matter. If their statements regarding some claim give you pause, just call them up and ask them about it on the phone...you can let us know what they say.

 

[Silenced America]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DeltaPDesign</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The SilencerCo<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body">KAC did attempt to use either tungsten or tungsten carbide (I can't remember which) in the past on a program that attempted to provide integrally suppressed 10" uppers to the military. Their experience according to Al Paulson's article was that while it was strong, hard, and wear resistant, it cracked under intense rapid heating, rendering it not suitable for blast baffles.

Ideal baffle materials are hard and strong to high temperatures, and have a significant difference in yield and tensile strengths (AKA are ductile rather than brittle).

I'm not pursuing a material. I simply wanted to expose the flaws in a simple marketing statement which fails totally to express that whatever material they are using is actually superior.
</div></div>

I would say that the SilencerCo folks are good people. I would probably let them hold my wallet, or silencer for that matter. If their statements regarding some claim give you pause, just call them up and ask them about it on the phone...you can let us know what they say. </div></div>

DeltaPDesign = Professionalism. This encourages me even more to buy your awesome products. This industry needs more professionally minded folks.

 

[rplamann]

Re: Silencero's Saker 5.56 suppressor (PICS & INFO)

Any word on when we will be seeing the Saker in people's hands?