SILENCERS....Who makes the best and quietest for AR-M4's????????????????????????..looking for the quietest and best for my 2 M4's. I would like to use the "can" on both. I am looking for either thread on or quick detach options so I need input. Does anyone make one tho "quick detach" on a standard A2 flashhidder? Please let me know your input....thanks....any pictures ???? Looking to spend around $800-$1000 (or less..possibly alittle higher) + tax stamp. I have a AAC for my 2 bolt guns and I love it but wondering what is out there for AR's.Anyone heard of SWR silencers? Any good? Quiet? POI change?
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SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????????
- Thread starter Bullseyelr
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Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????????
Asked the same question a while ago. For direct A2 connection check this:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...939#Post1400939
as to the quietest or thread on suppressors, that would be someone else.
Asked the same question a while ago. For direct A2 connection check this:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...939#Post1400939
as to the quietest or thread on suppressors, that would be someone else.
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????????
In that price range gemtech will work and direct connect to an A2 flash hider. YHM is about 30 bucks cheaper but you need their flash hider do it, so its the same price. Both are equal in sound decibel reduction, and are perfect for your price range.
In that price range gemtech will work and direct connect to an A2 flash hider. YHM is about 30 bucks cheaper but you need their flash hider do it, so its the same price. Both are equal in sound decibel reduction, and are perfect for your price range.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Am180man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC SPR/M4 metered as one of the quietest cans tested on sliencerresearch.com.
Steve </div></div>
Have one, I've never been able to compare it to any others, but it's nice so far.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Am180man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AAC SPR/M4 metered as one of the quietest cans tested on sliencerresearch.com.
Steve </div></div>
Have one, I've never been able to compare it to any others, but it's nice so far.
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If you do a search in the suppressor forum their is plenty of info to help you with a decision.
Also when deciding on my suppressors the money spent on a silencer research membership was well worth it.
If you do a search in the suppressor forum their is plenty of info to help you with a decision.
Also when deciding on my suppressors the money spent on a silencer research membership was well worth it.
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+1 for the spr m4 from AAC. I really like the MITR mounting system. It allows you to minimize POI shift. Another good option is the M4 2000. It does not allow you to adjust POI shift, but it is also extremely quiet. It is 200 bucks cheaper than the spr/m4 too.
Both have inconel baffles throughout making them extremely durable and able to withstand full auto fire.
+1 for the spr m4 from AAC. I really like the MITR mounting system. It allows you to minimize POI shift. Another good option is the M4 2000. It does not allow you to adjust POI shift, but it is also extremely quiet. It is 200 bucks cheaper than the spr/m4 too.
Both have inconel baffles throughout making them extremely durable and able to withstand full auto fire.
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bullseyelr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SILENCERS....Who makes the best and quietest for AR-M4's????????????????????????..looking for the quietest and best for my 2 M4's. I would like to use the "can" on both. I am looking for either thread on or quick detach options so I need input. Does anyone make one tho "quick detach" on a standard A2 flashhidder? Please let me know your input....thanks....any pictures ???? Looking to spend around $800-$1000 (or less..possibly alittle higher) + tax stamp. I have a AAC for my 2 bolt guns and I love it but wondering what is out there for AR's.Anyone heard of SWR silencers? Any good? Quiet? POI change?
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I am in the exact same process as you in terms of finding a suppressor for my M4. I talked to my local Class 3 dealer first and he put me on to AAC, Surefire, and Gemtech. Surefire was out of my price range so I dropped that immediately. I called Mike at AAC and talked to him about a 1000 versus a 2000. The 2000 is an updated can with all the bells and whistles of technology that has AAC has learned and it is rated for full auto. I said I don't have a full auto and never will so what could the 1000 do for me. He said for what I was doing with the can it is a great alternative and 400 dollars cheaper then the 2000. It has most of the same technology but not all thus the price difference. He said if you put them side by side you could tell the difference but not by much. I couldn't ever find anyone that had a GEMTECH in stock so I went with the AAC M4/1000. After the mount, suppressor and stamp I am just under a $1000. Just my 2 cents in my recent adventure for suppressor shopping.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bullseyelr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">SILENCERS....Who makes the best and quietest for AR-M4's????????????????????????..looking for the quietest and best for my 2 M4's. I would like to use the "can" on both. I am looking for either thread on or quick detach options so I need input. Does anyone make one tho "quick detach" on a standard A2 flashhidder? Please let me know your input....thanks....any pictures ???? Looking to spend around $800-$1000 (or less..possibly alittle higher) + tax stamp. I have a AAC for my 2 bolt guns and I love it but wondering what is out there for AR's.Anyone heard of SWR silencers? Any good? Quiet? POI change?
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I am in the exact same process as you in terms of finding a suppressor for my M4. I talked to my local Class 3 dealer first and he put me on to AAC, Surefire, and Gemtech. Surefire was out of my price range so I dropped that immediately. I called Mike at AAC and talked to him about a 1000 versus a 2000. The 2000 is an updated can with all the bells and whistles of technology that has AAC has learned and it is rated for full auto. I said I don't have a full auto and never will so what could the 1000 do for me. He said for what I was doing with the can it is a great alternative and 400 dollars cheaper then the 2000. It has most of the same technology but not all thus the price difference. He said if you put them side by side you could tell the difference but not by much. I couldn't ever find anyone that had a GEMTECH in stock so I went with the AAC M4/1000. After the mount, suppressor and stamp I am just under a $1000. Just my 2 cents in my recent adventure for suppressor shopping.
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silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ?
silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ?
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????
Many guys get wrapped around the axel about decibel rating, but don't consider things like how much the suppressor weighs, how much extra length it will add to the barrel, how much point of impact shift, how rugged the mounting system is, etc.
You may want to write a list of what features are most important to you and do research and find the suppressor that has the most features that are important to you.
This article outlines what was important to me when I was shopping for a new suppressor:
<span style="font-style: italic">03designgroup</span> | <span style="font-weight: bold">AR15 Sound Suppressor Selection
</span>
Hope this helps
Many guys get wrapped around the axel about decibel rating, but don't consider things like how much the suppressor weighs, how much extra length it will add to the barrel, how much point of impact shift, how rugged the mounting system is, etc.
You may want to write a list of what features are most important to you and do research and find the suppressor that has the most features that are important to you.
This article outlines what was important to me when I was shopping for a new suppressor:
<span style="font-style: italic">03designgroup</span> | <span style="font-weight: bold">AR15 Sound Suppressor Selection
</span>Hope this helps
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ?</div></div>
I beg to differ with you on that one Pistol. I had my Gemtech out today at the range with several of my friends. I first started shooting without the suppressor and then put it on for a friend that has never heard a rifle suppressed. He first heard it with his muffs on and then decided to take them off. It was a huge difference in the reduction of sound. He said he could easily sit next to it with just ear plugs in and probably without that. Suppressed also reduces the rifle recoil. My 308 feels more like a 223 or less when I shoot it. I have to admit that they are expensive but for a guy with Tinnitus in his ear like me it is a great invention.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ?</div></div>
I beg to differ with you on that one Pistol. I had my Gemtech out today at the range with several of my friends. I first started shooting without the suppressor and then put it on for a friend that has never heard a rifle suppressed. He first heard it with his muffs on and then decided to take them off. It was a huge difference in the reduction of sound. He said he could easily sit next to it with just ear plugs in and probably without that. Suppressed also reduces the rifle recoil. My 308 feels more like a 223 or less when I shoot it. I have to admit that they are expensive but for a guy with Tinnitus in his ear like me it is a great invention.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ? </div></div>
That is likely not a problem with the can, but with the supersonic projectile.
A subsonic round is MUCH quieter than a full power load.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ? </div></div>
That is likely not a problem with the can, but with the supersonic projectile.
A subsonic round is MUCH quieter than a full power load.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ? </div></div>
I have to disagree with you also. I had my 300 weatherby suppressed and it made a world of difference. Sure there is still sound, after all they are suppressors NOT silencers, but I could shoot my weatherby with no hearing protection.
If one wants a nearly silent weapon you need a subsonic round in a suppressed bolt action rifle. You have to understand that suppressor can only do so much. They CAN reduce (not eliminate) muzzle blast, concussion, felt recoil, and muzzle flash. However they CAN NOT reduce the sonic crack as the bullet travels down range. This is something that can not be overcome without breaking the laws of physics.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ? </div></div>
I have to disagree with you also. I had my 300 weatherby suppressed and it made a world of difference. Sure there is still sound, after all they are suppressors NOT silencers, but I could shoot my weatherby with no hearing protection.
If one wants a nearly silent weapon you need a subsonic round in a suppressed bolt action rifle. You have to understand that suppressor can only do so much. They CAN reduce (not eliminate) muzzle blast, concussion, felt recoil, and muzzle flash. However they CAN NOT reduce the sonic crack as the bullet travels down range. This is something that can not be overcome without breaking the laws of physics.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce,</div></div>
I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion.
The hard data is out there. Silencers/Suppressors have been in use by professionals for a LONG time. I run one on my work M4 and I have a Gemtech Outback II on my little Walther. The P22 with the Outback II attached is actually QUIETER than a Red Ryder BB Gun, and quite a bit more lethal. The stapler I use at the range is louder.
The silencer on my M4 is not there so I can covertly eliminate sentries or any of that Hollywood crap. It's so when I crack a round off in a cranker's trailer I will still be able to hear my kids the next day. Additionally the silencer makes it MUCH less likely that the shot will ignite fumes in a Hazmat environment.
Now since Silencers are as widely varied in design, function and quality as the weapons they are mounted on. Would you like to tell us what silencers you have experience with that have soured you so to make sweeping statements about all?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce,</div></div>
I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion.
The hard data is out there. Silencers/Suppressors have been in use by professionals for a LONG time. I run one on my work M4 and I have a Gemtech Outback II on my little Walther. The P22 with the Outback II attached is actually QUIETER than a Red Ryder BB Gun, and quite a bit more lethal. The stapler I use at the range is louder.
The silencer on my M4 is not there so I can covertly eliminate sentries or any of that Hollywood crap. It's so when I crack a round off in a cranker's trailer I will still be able to hear my kids the next day. Additionally the silencer makes it MUCH less likely that the shot will ignite fumes in a Hazmat environment.
Now since Silencers are as widely varied in design, function and quality as the weapons they are mounted on. Would you like to tell us what silencers you have experience with that have soured you so to make sweeping statements about all?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud</div></div>
You can't quiet the sound of the bullet unless the ammo is sub sonic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2H7AfcfiQ
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud</div></div>
You can't quiet the sound of the bullet unless the ammo is sub sonic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2H7AfcfiQ
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It's ok guys, PP will say that he is ordeing five suppresors next week.
It's ok guys, PP will say that he is ordeing five suppresors next week.
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I wish suppressors were legal here in Michigan
I wish suppressors were legal here in Michigan
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I dont have much experience in this realm but I've used a guy's suppressor that was a YHM made for a .30 cal on an AR15 and it worked great. He liked the ability to use his .30 cal suppressor on his AR15s, his Bolt Gun and his .22 pistol. I know YHM suppressors arent as popular as AAC, Surefire, OPS inc and Etc. but it works great and its fairly inexpensive.
I dont have much experience in this realm but I've used a guy's suppressor that was a YHM made for a .30 cal on an AR15 and it worked great. He liked the ability to use his .30 cal suppressor on his AR15s, his Bolt Gun and his .22 pistol. I know YHM suppressors arent as popular as AAC, Surefire, OPS inc and Etc. but it works great and its fairly inexpensive.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ? </div></div>
Oh my sweet baby jesus!
Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again. How many suppressors have you owned and/or tested? Im going to bet zero. If you think about shooting a 338LM without hearing protection is a good idea then go right ahead. They cant upgrade your hearing aids anymore you know. Now put an AAC Titan on that and it <span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 20pt">IS HEARING SAFE</span></span>. A suppressor does more then just muffle the report of the weapon, its reduces recoil in most calibers AND reduces flash.
You should have your internet connection terminated.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> silencers, suppressors, mufflers, or what ever name you want to tag them with are a forking farce, i was giving thought to getting one until i heard the report (sound) of several of them at the range, in my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINION</span> </span>they are worthless as their sound suppressing is still very loud, if i were to get one, i would want one that suppresses the sound to the level of a Red Ryder BB gun.
anyone make that kind of "silencer" ? </div></div>
Oh my sweet baby jesus!
Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again. How many suppressors have you owned and/or tested? Im going to bet zero. If you think about shooting a 338LM without hearing protection is a good idea then go right ahead. They cant upgrade your hearing aids anymore you know. Now put an AAC Titan on that and it <span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-size: 20pt">IS HEARING SAFE</span></span>. A suppressor does more then just muffle the report of the weapon, its reduces recoil in most calibers AND reduces flash.
You should have your internet connection terminated.
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If you can afford it, get the titanium models: much lighter. I have Quicksilver and they are fantastic. Their AR suppressor is small and very effective for its size: one of the best on silencerresearch.com
If you can afford it, get the titanium models: much lighter. I have Quicksilver and they are fantastic. Their AR suppressor is small and very effective for its size: one of the best on silencerresearch.com
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i love you guys, most of you provide me with some of the best humor i have experienced in years, i do <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">NOT</span></span></span> own a silencer/suppressor, never have, never will, one reason is i do not believe i need to ask my .gov for permission to own one and give them $200.00 for that privilege, once more you all will disagree and jump thru the .gov hoops.
my sole experience with them is hearing them for over 45 years which is longer than most of you have been walking this Earth the "factory made" ones are just fine for you folks but the most efficient one i ever heard was a home made one, a fellow i knew (now deceased) in Commiefornia back around 1968 owned a machine shop he made one that was the quietest S/S i ever heard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion</div></div>
some Marines i have known do have incredibly ignorant opinions (insert hilariously ROFLMAO icon)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again.</div></div>
i agree you should not be ranting like this in front of more experienced persons such as i, and YES !! you should have your i-net connection terminated along with your utterly stupid opinions, have a great life.
i love you guys, most of you provide me with some of the best humor i have experienced in years, i do <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">NOT</span></span></span> own a silencer/suppressor, never have, never will, one reason is i do not believe i need to ask my .gov for permission to own one and give them $200.00 for that privilege, once more you all will disagree and jump thru the .gov hoops.
my sole experience with them is hearing them for over 45 years which is longer than most of you have been walking this Earth the "factory made" ones are just fine for you folks but the most efficient one i ever heard was a home made one, a fellow i knew (now deceased) in Commiefornia back around 1968 owned a machine shop he made one that was the quietest S/S i ever heard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion</div></div>
some Marines i have known do have incredibly ignorant opinions (insert hilariously ROFLMAO icon)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again.</div></div>
i agree you should not be ranting like this in front of more experienced persons such as i, and YES !! you should have your i-net connection terminated along with your utterly stupid opinions, have a great life.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i love you guys, most of you provide me with some of the best humor i have experienced in years, i do <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">NOT</span></span></span> own a silencer/suppressor, never have, never will, one reason is i do not believe i need to ask my .gov for permission to own one and give them $200.00 for that privilege, once more you all will disagree and jump thru the .gov hoops.
my sole experience with them is hearing them for over 45 years which is longer than most of you have been walking this Earth the "factory made" ones are just fine for you folks but the most efficient one i ever heard was a home made one, a fellow i knew (now deceased) in Commiefornia back around 1968 owned a machine shop he made one that was the quietest S/S i ever heard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion</div></div>
some Marines i have known do have incredibly ignorant opinions (insert hilariously ROFLMAO icon)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again.</div></div>
<span style="color: #FF6600"> i agree you should not be ranting like this in front of more experienced persons such as i, and YES !! you should have your i-net connection terminated along with your utterly stupid opinions, have a great life. </div></div></span>
Point Proven! I was talking about you. Did you miss that? Maybe you can call in your alter boys to take a glance at the screen.
And I'm also sure that this "friend" you claim you have (which we all know is a lie) was a secret squirrel as well? "most of what you all did together that year is still classified" Was that the summer of the Super Secret Counter Sniper Suppressor development?! You must have so much knowledge on suppressors..... share it with us then and PROVE it. That means you can't google random info, copy and paste, and pass it off as your own knowledge. We all know your full of it, and I don't mean blood or oxygen (or whatever quantities the machine allows you to have).
Anytime you want to compare notes or see a REAL SUPPRESSOR come out to the range and Ill let you tell me what they sound like.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i love you guys, most of you provide me with some of the best humor i have experienced in years, i do <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">NOT</span></span></span> own a silencer/suppressor, never have, never will, one reason is i do not believe i need to ask my .gov for permission to own one and give them $200.00 for that privilege, once more you all will disagree and jump thru the .gov hoops.
my sole experience with them is hearing them for over 45 years which is longer than most of you have been walking this Earth the "factory made" ones are just fine for you folks but the most efficient one i ever heard was a home made one, a fellow i knew (now deceased) in Commiefornia back around 1968 owned a machine shop he made one that was the quietest S/S i ever heard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion</div></div>
some Marines i have known do have incredibly ignorant opinions (insert hilariously ROFLMAO icon)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again.</div></div>
<span style="color: #FF6600"> i agree you should not be ranting like this in front of more experienced persons such as i, and YES !! you should have your i-net connection terminated along with your utterly stupid opinions, have a great life. </div></div></span>
Point Proven! I was talking about you. Did you miss that? Maybe you can call in your alter boys to take a glance at the screen.
And I'm also sure that this "friend" you claim you have (which we all know is a lie) was a secret squirrel as well? "most of what you all did together that year is still classified" Was that the summer of the Super Secret Counter Sniper Suppressor development?! You must have so much knowledge on suppressors..... share it with us then and PROVE it. That means you can't google random info, copy and paste, and pass it off as your own knowledge. We all know your full of it, and I don't mean blood or oxygen (or whatever quantities the machine allows you to have).
Anytime you want to compare notes or see a REAL SUPPRESSOR come out to the range and Ill let you tell me what they sound like.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am a forking farce, my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINIONS</span> </span>are worthless... </div></div>
<span style="color: #3366FF">PISSED OFF PETE </span> is at it again!
1911fan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am a forking farce, my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINIONS</span> </span>are worthless... </div></div>
<span style="color: #3366FF">PISSED OFF PETE </span> is at it again!
1911fan
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1911fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am a forking farce, my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINIONS</span> </span>are worthless... </div></div>
<span style="color: #3366FF">PISSED OFF PETE </span> is at it again!
1911fan </div></div>
That made me spit out coffee!
Oh and you forgot that his TOP SECRET CODE NAME is:
<span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">PMS PETE</span></span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1911fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am a forking farce, my <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">OPINIONS</span> </span>are worthless... </div></div>
<span style="color: #3366FF">PISSED OFF PETE </span> is at it again!
1911fan </div></div>
That made me spit out coffee!
Oh and you forgot that his TOP SECRET CODE NAME is:
<span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">PMS PETE</span></span>
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Pete...while most Marines do have ignorant opinions...please keep in mind that most times we are right or willing to die fighting for that opinion. You havent the foggiest idea what you are talking about in regards to supressors. You have been watching one to many Hollywood flicks if you want something as quiet as a Red Ryder. Pete next time you think of making a dumb comment about Marines and their opinions please keep these quotes in mind.
There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion
Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
^^^^^^^^ please keep this one in mind before you decide you want to bad mouth Marines. Go back to playing with your 499 LWRs or whatever. I personally believe you post shit like you do for 2 reasons....to derail a informative thread or to stir the shit pot.
Pete...while most Marines do have ignorant opinions...please keep in mind that most times we are right or willing to die fighting for that opinion. You havent the foggiest idea what you are talking about in regards to supressors. You have been watching one to many Hollywood flicks if you want something as quiet as a Red Ryder. Pete next time you think of making a dumb comment about Marines and their opinions please keep these quotes in mind.
There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion
Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
^^^^^^^^ please keep this one in mind before you decide you want to bad mouth Marines. Go back to playing with your 499 LWRs or whatever. I personally believe you post shit like you do for 2 reasons....to derail a informative thread or to stir the shit pot.
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Don't sweat it. I sit back and laugh because I know that we have pledged our lives to provide Pete with the right to express his asinine opinion.
Pete, the old saying goes "better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" I think you may want to take that to heart. At this point no one takes anything you say seriously.
Don't sweat it. I sit back and laugh because I know that we have pledged our lives to provide Pete with the right to express his asinine opinion.
Pete, the old saying goes "better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" I think you may want to take that to heart. At this point no one takes anything you say seriously.
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Why should they? Go back and read his old posts!!!!
To much acid trips in the 70s, PMS-P !
Why should they? Go back and read his old posts!!!!
To much acid trips in the 70s, PMS-P !
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while we are still piling on I just came from the range where I was shooting that loud as hell suppressor (insert sarcasm), GEMTECH HVT. On one occasion, for some reason, I forgot to put on my ear muffs and low and behold, the only sound I heard was the sonic crack of the bullet. It wasn't loud at all but I am sure Pistol can find someone that can make it better and quieter for free.
while we are still piling on I just came from the range where I was shooting that loud as hell suppressor (insert sarcasm), GEMTECH HVT. On one occasion, for some reason, I forgot to put on my ear muffs and low and behold, the only sound I heard was the sonic crack of the bullet. It wasn't loud at all but I am sure Pistol can find someone that can make it better and quieter for free.
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Little does Pete know that if he turned his hearing aids off..... he wouldnt need a suppressor at all.
Little does Pete know that if he turned his hearing aids off..... he wouldnt need a suppressor at all.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i love you guys, most of you provide me with some of the best humor i have experienced in years, i do <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">NOT</span></span></span> own a silencer/suppressor, never have, never will, one reason is i do not believe i need to ask my .gov for permission to own one and give them $200.00 for that privilege, once more you all will disagree and jump thru the .gov hoops.
my sole experience with them is hearing them for over 45 years which is longer than most of you have been walking this Earth the "factory made" ones are just fine for you folks but the most efficient one i ever heard was a home made one, a fellow i knew (now deceased) in Commiefornia back around 1968 owned a machine shop he made one that was the quietest S/S i ever heard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion</div></div>
some Marines i have known do have incredibly ignorant opinions (insert hilariously ROFLMAO icon)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again.</div></div>
<span style="color: #FF6600"> i agree you should not be ranting like this in front of more experienced persons such as i, and YES !! you should have your i-net connection terminated along with your utterly stupid opinions, have a great life. </div></div></span>
Point Proven! I was talking about you.<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"> (me ! little ole me ?? )</span></span> Did you miss that? Maybe you can call in your alter boys to take a glance at the screen.
And I'm also sure that this "friend" you claim you have (which we all know is a lie)<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"> (i do not lie my friend, have you ever heard of the .22-243 Middlestead ?? google it you just might learn that the only liar posing on this forum is you !!)</span> </span> was a secret squirrel as well? "most of what you all did together that year is still classified" Was that the summer of the Super Secret Counter Sniper Suppressor development?! You must have so much knowledge on suppressors..... share it with us then and PROVE it. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099">(proving anything to you sir, would be akin to the proving the authenticity of a certain Mulattos birth certificate )</span> </span>That means you can't google random info, copy and paste, and pass it off as your own knowledge. We all know your full of it, <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099">(you are so correct sir, i am so filled with knowledge, information and experience it is totally awesome, do you agree with the left photo on page 482 of Earl Naramores book ? have you ever tried it ? i have and also chronographed them vs standard as seen on the right photo ? Paul M. introduced me to that idea in 1965ad</span>)</span> and I don't mean blood or oxygen (or whatever quantities the machine allows you to have).
Anytime you want to compare notes or see a REAL SUPPRESSOR come out to the range and Ill let you tell me what they sound like. </div></div>
what range dumbshit ? i can tell you right now what it will sound like and that is the sound of what you are pulling out of your ass !
have a great day and drive safely and quit running yellow and red lights OK ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i love you guys, most of you provide me with some of the best humor i have experienced in years, i do <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">NOT</span></span></span> own a silencer/suppressor, never have, never will, one reason is i do not believe i need to ask my .gov for permission to own one and give them $200.00 for that privilege, once more you all will disagree and jump thru the .gov hoops.
my sole experience with them is hearing them for over 45 years which is longer than most of you have been walking this Earth the "factory made" ones are just fine for you folks but the most efficient one i ever heard was a home made one, a fellow i knew (now deceased) in Commiefornia back around 1968 owned a machine shop he made one that was the quietest S/S i ever heard.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do have to say that is an incredibly ignorant opinion</div></div>
some Marines i have known do have incredibly ignorant opinions (insert hilariously ROFLMAO icon)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here comes the ignorant rants of the senile, yet again.</div></div>
<span style="color: #FF6600"> i agree you should not be ranting like this in front of more experienced persons such as i, and YES !! you should have your i-net connection terminated along with your utterly stupid opinions, have a great life. </div></div></span>
Point Proven! I was talking about you.<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"> (me ! little ole me ?? )</span></span> Did you miss that? Maybe you can call in your alter boys to take a glance at the screen.
And I'm also sure that this "friend" you claim you have (which we all know is a lie)<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"> (i do not lie my friend, have you ever heard of the .22-243 Middlestead ?? google it you just might learn that the only liar posing on this forum is you !!)</span> </span> was a secret squirrel as well? "most of what you all did together that year is still classified" Was that the summer of the Super Secret Counter Sniper Suppressor development?! You must have so much knowledge on suppressors..... share it with us then and PROVE it. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099">(proving anything to you sir, would be akin to the proving the authenticity of a certain Mulattos birth certificate )</span> </span>That means you can't google random info, copy and paste, and pass it off as your own knowledge. We all know your full of it, <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099">(you are so correct sir, i am so filled with knowledge, information and experience it is totally awesome, do you agree with the left photo on page 482 of Earl Naramores book ? have you ever tried it ? i have and also chronographed them vs standard as seen on the right photo ? Paul M. introduced me to that idea in 1965ad</span>)</span> and I don't mean blood or oxygen (or whatever quantities the machine allows you to have).
Anytime you want to compare notes or see a REAL SUPPRESSOR come out to the range and Ill let you tell me what they sound like. </div></div>
what range dumbshit ? i can tell you right now what it will sound like and that is the sound of what you are pulling out of your ass !
have a great day and drive safely and quit running yellow and red lights OK ?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That made me spit out coffee! </div></div>
at your age, coffee will stunt the growth of your brain..., ooooh ! i am sorry, it seems as though that has already happened.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That made me spit out coffee! </div></div>
at your age, coffee will stunt the growth of your brain..., ooooh ! i am sorry, it seems as though that has already happened.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pete...while most Marines do have ignorant opinions...please keep in mind that most times we are right or willing to die fighting for that opinion. You havent the foggiest idea what you are talking about in regards to supressors. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099">(you are absolutely correct for once in your young life, i do not know shit about silencers, other than what i fucking <span style="font-size: 20pt">HEAR</span> !!)</span></span> You have been watching one to many Hollywood flicks<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099"> (so sorry there sonny, i hate hollyweed)</span></span> if you want something as quiet as a Red Ryder. Pete next time you think of making a dumb comment about Marines and their opinions please keep these quotes in mind.
There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"> (wrong again son, i know Jarheads, my hero WWII Vet uncle was a Marine who told his WWII experiences during the Pacific War, and my son was a Marine, so take your pompous attitude and shove it ! </span>)</span>
Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF">(look sonny, i served 25 years in the US Navy, covering your ass and that of your mother who changed your diapers while i was doing my SHARE, what have you done Mr. Hero ?)</span></span>
^^^^^^^^ please keep this one in mind before you decide you want to bad mouth Marines. Go back to playing with your 499 LWRs or whatever. I personally believe you post shit like you do for 2 reasons....to derail a informative thread or to stir the shit pot. </div></div>
sleep tight there young'un
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pete...while most Marines do have ignorant opinions...please keep in mind that most times we are right or willing to die fighting for that opinion. You havent the foggiest idea what you are talking about in regards to supressors. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099">(you are absolutely correct for once in your young life, i do not know shit about silencers, other than what i fucking <span style="font-size: 20pt">HEAR</span> !!)</span></span> You have been watching one to many Hollywood flicks<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #000099"> (so sorry there sonny, i hate hollyweed)</span></span> if you want something as quiet as a Red Ryder. Pete next time you think of making a dumb comment about Marines and their opinions please keep these quotes in mind.
There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF"> (wrong again son, i know Jarheads, my hero WWII Vet uncle was a Marine who told his WWII experiences during the Pacific War, and my son was a Marine, so take your pompous attitude and shove it ! </span>)</span>
Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #3333FF">(look sonny, i served 25 years in the US Navy, covering your ass and that of your mother who changed your diapers while i was doing my SHARE, what have you done Mr. Hero ?)</span></span>
^^^^^^^^ please keep this one in mind before you decide you want to bad mouth Marines. Go back to playing with your 499 LWRs or whatever. I personally believe you post shit like you do for 2 reasons....to derail a informative thread or to stir the shit pot. </div></div>
sleep tight there young'un
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Pete you a were a fucking Jet mechanic or something, hardly protecting anything. Again, Pete i have more than once told you what i have done. So if im right that you dont know shit about cans or supressors why the hell are you still posting here? Pete, you werent a Marine, you may have known some Marines, but you dont "get" Marines.
Pete you a were a fucking Jet mechanic or something, hardly protecting anything. Again, Pete i have more than once told you what i have done. So if im right that you dont know shit about cans or supressors why the hell are you still posting here? Pete, you werent a Marine, you may have known some Marines, but you dont "get" Marines.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Pete, the old saying goes "better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" </div></div>
i firmly believe you and many of your stooge cohorts here need to be the first to follow this advice, that was the very first "old saying" that come to mind when i read some of the hate "Piston Pete" replies on this thread and many others.
have a great life my friend, <span style="font-size: 11pt">A</span><span style="font-size: 14pt">N</span><span style="font-size: 17pt">D</span> be careful out there !!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Pete, the old saying goes "better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" </div></div>
i firmly believe you and many of your stooge cohorts here need to be the first to follow this advice, that was the very first "old saying" that come to mind when i read some of the hate "Piston Pete" replies on this thread and many others.
have a great life my friend, <span style="font-size: 11pt">A</span><span style="font-size: 14pt">N</span><span style="font-size: 17pt">D</span> be careful out there !!
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Pete can you cite an instance where I have not followed my own advice?
I think you would find much less hate if you moderated your own replies.
Pete can you cite an instance where I have not followed my own advice?
I think you would find much less hate if you moderated your own replies.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pete you a were a fucking Jet mechanic or something, hardly protecting anything. Again, <span style="color: #FF0000">Pete i have more than once told you what i have done. (refresh my memory please i do not recall you ever telling me of your 15 minutes of fame)</span> So if im right that you dont know shit about cans or supressors why the hell are you still posting here? Pete, you werent a Marine, you may have known some Marines, but you dont "get" Marines. </div></div>
aah haaa !!! just as i thought, an egotistical self centered POS who thinks..., ooopsie doo "FEEEEELS" <span style="color: #3333FF">(i use feeeel because you sound just like the typical WDC liarberal)</span> he is the only one who contributed any thing to the defense of this great country, i would bet a $100.00 that you FEEEEEL the same about the mechanics who keep your tanks, trucks and latrines up & running, a TRUE Marine knows that every service member who serves from the most lowly scullery attendant to the Admirals seat knows that EVERY one in uniform contributes to the defense of our great country, you sir are not deserving of the title U.S. Marine, you sir should hide your face under a bushel (biblical) for saying this:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Pete you a were a fucking Jet mechanic or something, hardly protecting anything.</div></div>
in fact i do not believe you were ever a Marine, a lot of posers like you can use the i-net to fake up a resume.
have a great life and stop disparaging the service of a true 25 year U.S.Navy Vet
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pete you a were a fucking Jet mechanic or something, hardly protecting anything. Again, <span style="color: #FF0000">Pete i have more than once told you what i have done. (refresh my memory please i do not recall you ever telling me of your 15 minutes of fame)</span> So if im right that you dont know shit about cans or supressors why the hell are you still posting here? Pete, you werent a Marine, you may have known some Marines, but you dont "get" Marines. </div></div>
aah haaa !!! just as i thought, an egotistical self centered POS who thinks..., ooopsie doo "FEEEEELS" <span style="color: #3333FF">(i use feeeel because you sound just like the typical WDC liarberal)</span> he is the only one who contributed any thing to the defense of this great country, i would bet a $100.00 that you FEEEEEL the same about the mechanics who keep your tanks, trucks and latrines up & running, a TRUE Marine knows that every service member who serves from the most lowly scullery attendant to the Admirals seat knows that EVERY one in uniform contributes to the defense of our great country, you sir are not deserving of the title U.S. Marine, you sir should hide your face under a bushel (biblical) for saying this:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Pete you a were a fucking Jet mechanic or something, hardly protecting anything.</div></div>
in fact i do not believe you were ever a Marine, a lot of posers like you can use the i-net to fake up a resume.
have a great life and stop disparaging the service of a true 25 year U.S.Navy Vet
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I like my AAC M4-2000(early version spr-m4, not mitre type)
keeps the neighbors happy, keeps the coyotes guessing which way is safe to run, definitely saves the hearing.
I like my AAC M4-2000(early version spr-m4, not mitre type)
keeps the neighbors happy, keeps the coyotes guessing which way is safe to run, definitely saves the hearing.
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Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, Flash stared at his monitor and called to Dale..
"They're at it again, honey. Ming's mind machine is really driving them...well nuts! Dr. Pete is using words like biblical and stringing out "eeee's" like an armidillo on crack!"
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Bulleyes, the .223 round is difficult to suppress to begin with. It is, in fact, one of the hardest. Having said that, there is so much good reading on the supressor section that you won't be disappointed.
If you are looking to dramtically reduce the sound of your M4 it is very possible, with sub sonic ammo you can drive the resulting sound way below that of a the .22LR . In many ways, you get what you pay for in suppression. One last note, there is inherent in many solicitations the requirement to keep .223 cans quite short. This is determined in no short part by operational requirements. If you do not have these same requirements, do yourself a favor and set small .223 cans aside and go for maximum sound supression. The can should last you a life time, don't be cheap about it. If your going to shoot .22s through it, that has consequences too. Also, don't forget to consider full auto rated cans as they are fundamentally different in design and materials. MOst important advice? Don't buy a thing until YOU have heard it as no suppressor can disappoint more than the .223.
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Now back to our heros, Dr. Pete and Lone Wolf, in "<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"><span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">City of Sea Caves</span></span></span></span>".......
Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, Flash stared at his monitor and called to Dale..
"They're at it again, honey. Ming's mind machine is really driving them...well nuts! Dr. Pete is using words like biblical and stringing out "eeee's" like an armidillo on crack!"
======
Bulleyes, the .223 round is difficult to suppress to begin with. It is, in fact, one of the hardest. Having said that, there is so much good reading on the supressor section that you won't be disappointed.
If you are looking to dramtically reduce the sound of your M4 it is very possible, with sub sonic ammo you can drive the resulting sound way below that of a the .22LR . In many ways, you get what you pay for in suppression. One last note, there is inherent in many solicitations the requirement to keep .223 cans quite short. This is determined in no short part by operational requirements. If you do not have these same requirements, do yourself a favor and set small .223 cans aside and go for maximum sound supression. The can should last you a life time, don't be cheap about it. If your going to shoot .22s through it, that has consequences too. Also, don't forget to consider full auto rated cans as they are fundamentally different in design and materials. MOst important advice? Don't buy a thing until YOU have heard it as no suppressor can disappoint more than the .223.
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Now back to our heros, Dr. Pete and Lone Wolf, in "<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"><span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">City of Sea Caves</span></span></span></span>".......
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I was going to post my two cents, but damn it's brutal in here. lol. By the way I'm no Marine and not claiming to be. When looking for any silencer type product just watch what you get, alot of self proclaimed gunsmiths and builders out there.
I was going to post my two cents, but damn it's brutal in here. lol. By the way I'm no Marine and not claiming to be. When looking for any silencer type product just watch what you get, alot of self proclaimed gunsmiths and builders out there.
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PMS PETE you are an idiot! Deadly has shown his credentials AND pictures of himself overseas protecting and giving up his everyday freedoms so some internet loud mouthed troll, such as yourself, can wake up everyday in your nice retirement home and not be blown to bits.
The Range I speak of is the one that I built and shoot on. You don't know shit about suppressors. I own and shoot plenty of them on a daily basis.
You get all of your information from Steven Seagal movies and then you come and run your trap about it here. Please...... your not even worthy enough to lick the sand off Deadly's boots!
You are a professional armchair sniper, a rascal riding mall cop. Your biggest accomplishment in life is breathing without choking on your own tongue. Try not to sprain a finger as you type your witty response in your blue oversized letters. But it must take a while to type in between your mall watch duties. Charge up your rascal and get back to patrol. you are needed out in the food court!
PMS PETE you are an idiot! Deadly has shown his credentials AND pictures of himself overseas protecting and giving up his everyday freedoms so some internet loud mouthed troll, such as yourself, can wake up everyday in your nice retirement home and not be blown to bits.
The Range I speak of is the one that I built and shoot on. You don't know shit about suppressors. I own and shoot plenty of them on a daily basis.
You get all of your information from Steven Seagal movies and then you come and run your trap about it here. Please...... your not even worthy enough to lick the sand off Deadly's boots!
You are a professional armchair sniper, a rascal riding mall cop. Your biggest accomplishment in life is breathing without choking on your own tongue. Try not to sprain a finger as you type your witty response in your blue oversized letters. But it must take a while to type in between your mall watch duties. Charge up your rascal and get back to patrol. you are needed out in the food court!
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That made me spit out coffee! </div></div>
at your age, coffee will stunt the growth of your brain..., ooooh ! i am sorry, it seems as though that has already happened. </div></div>
What page of your internet joke book are you on? That was hilarious...............
*crickets* *crickets*
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That made me spit out coffee! </div></div>
at your age, coffee will stunt the growth of your brain..., ooooh ! i am sorry, it seems as though that has already happened. </div></div>
What page of your internet joke book are you on? That was hilarious...............
*crickets* *crickets*
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????
Now, to actually add something to this in a constructive manner.
The CTS 5.56 (before they were SAS) I have on my M4 is not crazy quiet. It wasn't designed that way. I had Tim design a reflex mount so that the can only adds 4" to the OAL of the weapon. My requirements were that the sound reduction reduced the possibilty of serious hearing damage when fired indoors. This is does admirably. In fact when fired at a close range target the suppressor actually seems quieter than when fired at a 300-400 yard target. I can only attribute this to the sonic crack of the round.
Now a suppressed .22LR with match or subsonic ammo is just fun. It really is crazy quiet.
Now, to actually add something to this in a constructive manner.
The CTS 5.56 (before they were SAS) I have on my M4 is not crazy quiet. It wasn't designed that way. I had Tim design a reflex mount so that the can only adds 4" to the OAL of the weapon. My requirements were that the sound reduction reduced the possibilty of serious hearing damage when fired indoors. This is does admirably. In fact when fired at a close range target the suppressor actually seems quieter than when fired at a 300-400 yard target. I can only attribute this to the sonic crack of the round.
Now a suppressed .22LR with match or subsonic ammo is just fun. It really is crazy quiet.
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????
Pete,<span style="color: #3366FF">your every color coordinated.</span> Unfortunately the only color I see when you speak is <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">black</span></span></span>.
Pete,<span style="color: #3366FF">your every color coordinated.</span> Unfortunately the only color I see when you speak is <span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">black</span></span></span>.
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????
more personal attacks from a diaper wearing crud spewing latrine keeper, you also have obvious brain damage when your mommie spit you out in the back of a garbage truck !
more personal attacks from a diaper wearing crud spewing latrine keeper, you also have obvious brain damage when your mommie spit you out in the back of a garbage truck !
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PMS PETE you are an idiot! Deadly has shown his credentials AND pictures of himself overseas protecting and giving up his everyday freedoms....., blah, blah, blah and more BS </div></div>
must have missed them, would you kindly post them for Deadratly as he don't have the balls for it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PMS PETE you are an idiot! Deadly has shown his credentials AND pictures of himself overseas protecting and giving up his everyday freedoms....., blah, blah, blah and more BS </div></div>
must have missed them, would you kindly post them for Deadratly as he don't have the balls for it.
Re: SILENCERS....what is the BEST for AR-M4???????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PMS PETE you are an idiot! Deadly has shown his credentials AND pictures of himself overseas protecting and giving up his everyday freedoms....., blah, blah, blah and more BS </div></div>
must have missed them, would you kindly post them for Deadratly as he don't have the balls for it. </div></div>
Are you just trying to start an internet war or are you this cantankerous. I think Deadly0311 has shown himself to be what he says he is. You...not so sure. If you like to play the internet war games have at it but I personally come to this site to learn from others. Why play the games that you do. Go somewhere else to play those games.
Suppressors work as the many Armed Forces individuals on this site can tell you. I personally have them but I was trained on using them in the Army so I can tell you. They work as intended!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Piston Pete</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYshooter338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PMS PETE you are an idiot! Deadly has shown his credentials AND pictures of himself overseas protecting and giving up his everyday freedoms....., blah, blah, blah and more BS </div></div>
must have missed them, would you kindly post them for Deadratly as he don't have the balls for it. </div></div>
Are you just trying to start an internet war or are you this cantankerous. I think Deadly0311 has shown himself to be what he says he is. You...not so sure. If you like to play the internet war games have at it but I personally come to this site to learn from others. Why play the games that you do. Go somewhere else to play those games.
Suppressors work as the many Armed Forces individuals on this site can tell you. I personally have them but I was trained on using them in the Army so I can tell you. They work as intended!
